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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9921e41 / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.conf : Change the nginx error log name. - http://git.io/ZNDxbg | 02:04 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9cccbd2 / wre/var/setupfiles/wre.logrotate : Add rotate rules for nginx, wremonitor. Fix template variable naming. - http://git.io/EDBI7A | 02:04 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r2ae6991 / (wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm wre/var/setupfiles/wre.conf): Add explicit access and error logs for starman, and set number of workers via wre.conf - http://git.io/hjUxPA | 02:04 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r256adc3 / wre/sbin/wreconsole.pl : Update wreconsole to create the wre.logrotate file - http://git.io/ji6S0w | 02:11 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r03a2242 / (lib/WebGUI.pm sbin/testEnvironment.pl share/site.psgi): Add native size limiting to WebGUI via plack. This is no longer a WRE specific feature. - http://git.io/rwUKSQ | 05:01 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r43a7652 / (4 files in 2 dirs): Start pruning modperl content. - http://git.io/Ta23eA | 05:03 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9f5e96a / wre/lib/WRE/Modperl.pm : More modperl cleanup. - http://git.io/W8gDAQ | 05:26 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r55e8c04 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Modproxy cleanup. - http://git.io/kAfhjA | 05:26 |
mducharme | Happy New Year | 08:00 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * re6cb511 / sbin/testEnvironment.pl : We don't depend on starman. - http://git.io/K3WPgw | 17:23 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r5d89201 / sbin/testEnvironment.pl : Add a missing test requirement. - http://git.io/clqKbw | 18:21 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r4b0cb83 / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Update dist.ini for WebGUI 8 - http://git.io/0zyqIw | 22:12 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r6a6f839 / (11 files): Remove Class::C3 from the asset helpers, since they don't use it. - http://git.io/bzw32w | 00:14 |
CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r61e1705 / lib/WebGUI/Session/Response.pm : Remove empty comments and fix POD. - http://git.io/J60P8g | 00:14 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r64d2f53 / (build.sh getsource.sh): Update to a version that downloads - http://git.io/wuSioA | 01:27 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: JT Smith master * r6af04cc / (24 files in 8 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of github.com:plainblack/wrebuild - http://git.io/FXa-yA | 02:17 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: JT Smith master * r687098d / build.sh : fixed hardcode path - http://git.io/l6aSMg | 02:17 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r2387c1e / build.sh : No more gif switch needed for ImageMagick. - http://git.io/8bxyKQ | 02:20 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4eed008 / docs/gotcha.txt : Document some more gotchas. - http://git.io/j415Jw | 06:15 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd31137c / lib/WebGUI/Macro/UsersOnline.pm : Remove a misleading comment - http://git.io/-sgCjQ | 16:02 |
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+perlDreamer | morning folks | 16:52 |
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+BartJol | howdy Colin and all the best for the new year | 17:03 |
+BartJol | btw do you still need an nginx conf file? we have one for wg7 that works, not sure whether that would do for wg8 | 17:05 |
+BartJol | perlDreamer: ? | 17:07 |
+perlDreamer | sorry, /me was afk | 17:33 |
+perlDreamer | I think I have nginx worked out, but I'd love to see what you have BartJol | 17:33 |
+BartJol | ah | 17:34 |
+perlDreamer | BartJol, does your nginx config handle the static uploads? I wasn't able to figure that part out | 17:35 |
+BartJol | ah, well that is in that conf | 17:37 |
+BartJol | that was one of the trickiest parts, I just fixed today\ | 17:37 |
+BartJol | should be in your mail | 17:37 |
+BartJol | I believe I took references for env specific stuff out | 17:38 |
+BartJol | off course the forwarding port should be according with Plack/starman | 17:39 |
+BartJol | 5000 is default I believe | 17:39 |
+BartJol | but you'' know that better than I | 17:40 |
+perlDreamer | I believe it is 5000 | 17:40 |
+perlDreamer | but in WRE 8, it's part of the wre config | 17:40 |
+perlDreamer | so you can set it to what you like | 17:40 |
+perlDreamer | I like that you turned off logging for the IIS stuff | 17:41 |
+perlDreamer | but what is the "alive" location? | 17:41 |
+BartJol | ah | 17:41 |
+BartJol | sorry, env | 17:41 |
+BartJol | that is for thethe loadblancing | 17:41 |
+perlDreamer | gotcha | 17:41 |
haarg | it's 5000 by default for plackup, but i'd probably pick something else for the wre | 17:41 |
+BartJol | you can leave that out | 17:42 |
+BartJol | well, since that conf is for wg7, it still contains 8081 | 17:42 |
+BartJol | well parts of it aren't mine, but I hope it helps | 17:44 |
+perlDreamer | it does, a lot! thanks man! | 17:44 |
+perlDreamer | Do you have any WebGUI 8 specific questions that I can answer BartJol? I could use a couple of extra blog topics | 17:44 |
+BartJol | If you notice anything that is broken, please notify. We had some problems with wgaccess files | 17:45 |
+BartJol | well... does wg8 work with a broken slave sql server :P | 17:45 |
haarg | perlDreamer, is the wre using a wrapping .psgi file? | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | no, haarg | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | to be honest, I've spent all my time up to this point redesigning the WRE | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | and I haven't even tested it yet | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | hopefully, that will be today or tomorrow | 17:47 |
+perlDreamer | pending support, broken servers, chats with JT, meetings with Jamie, etc. | 17:47 |
haarg | there were some things that were left out of the default psgi setup because they are environment specific | 17:47 |
haarg | particularly the ReverseProxy middleware | 17:47 |
haarg | also, regarding uploaded files | 17:48 |
haarg | https://github.com/rack/rack-contrib/blob/master/lib/rack/contrib/sendfile.rb | 17:48 |
haarg | the XSendfile middleware is used, so even files that aren't public should be served quickly | 17:48 |
haarg | but it needs some setup in the nginx config | 17:49 |
+perlDreamer | so we could bypass the wgaccess check in nginx completely? | 17:50 |
haarg | well, it still involves talking to the starman server and that would slow down requests somewhat | 17:51 |
haarg | it just doesn't tie up a starman process to actually serve the file | 17:51 |
haarg | i'm thinking you'd want something like this http://gist.github.com/1555459 as the psgi file starman actually loads | 17:54 |
+perlDreamer | that's easy enough to change in WRE 8 | 17:57 |
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+perlDreamer | offhand, does anyone know if internally, that perl's readdir uses an iterator, or a list that is doled out bit by bit? | 18:08 |
+perlDreamer | well, according to stackoverflow, it does | 18:14 |
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@scrottie | why are you reverse proxying in the wre? | 18:42 |
@scrottie | er, with plack? | 18:43 |
@scrottie | oh, I guess that's a haarg quesiton. | 18:43 |
@scrottie | haarg, I did some work a while back to make X-Send-Static work if it is enabled (and make it enable-able) | 18:44 |
@scrottie | it would make more sense to have something like nginx in front of plack than to have plack proxy stuff. | 18:45 |
haarg | yes | 18:45 |
haarg | the ReverseProxy middleware is to rewrite the headers so webgui has the correct client IP etc | 18:46 |
@scrottie | strange. | 18:47 |
haarg | webgui used to have handling for that directly in it | 18:48 |
haarg | X-Forwarded-For and the SSLPROXY stuff | 18:49 |
haarg | the ReverseProxy middleware does that for us, so we want to use it instead | 18:49 |
haarg | it might also make sense to have WebGUI enable it directly. it's server specific though, not site specific. | 18:50 |
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@scrottie | perlDreamer, `man readdir`. perl's readdir is a wrapper around that. | 20:15 |
+perlDreamer | thanks scrottie | 20:16 |
+perlDreamer | turns out that the HttpProxy leaks cookie files | 20:16 |
+perlDreamer | which can do bad things with systems with small numbers of inodes | 20:16 |
@scrottie | sure. sounds like you already figured it out but I thought I'd mention that anyway as it's a common thread. | 20:16 |
@scrottie | not sure how cookies and inodes intersect in this case... | 20:16 |
@scrottie | is it leaking filehandles to temporary files? | 20:16 |
+perlDreamer | the HttpProxy does a fetch of remote sites | 20:16 |
+perlDreamer | and on every fetch it writes a cookie file into a storage location | 20:17 |
+perlDreamer | but those files are never cleaned up | 20:17 |
+perlDreamer | so now, start doing the math on 5 cookies per minute across 12 months | 20:17 |
@scrottie | I see. | 20:17 |
+perlDreamer | I'll have to write a workflow activity for cleaning up cookie files that are older than a day or so | 20:18 |
@scrottie | I wonder if they'd take a patch that does an ongoing clean-up. | 20:20 |
@scrottie | spread the cost across each hit. I've had good luck with that strategy in the past. | 20:20 |
@scrottie | other people are likely to be having problems with this too. a complete lack of cleanup kinda isn't okay. | 20:21 |
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+perlDreamer | they is us, but we normally confine that kind of thing to workflow activities | 20:39 |
@scrottie | HttpProxy is our code? | 20:39 |
@scrottie | in that case, we should change it to use a dbm file instead of a bunch of little individual files | 20:40 |
@daviddelikat | perlDreamer: I found the problem with the EMS | 20:48 |
+perlDreamer | scrottie, not likely to happen | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | at least not until there's a rewrite | 20:49 |
+perlDreamer | daviddelikat, what's the scoop? | 20:49 |
@daviddelikat | there are two packages that needed to be 'used' in the existing modules | 20:50 |
haarg | httpproxy is pretty terrible imo, and i wouldn't put too much effort into anything more than simple fixes | 20:50 |
@daviddelikat | I'm not sure if they were loaded by some other mechanism originally | 20:50 |
+perlDreamer | what's missing dav? | 20:50 |
@daviddelikat | but they are not loaded in the current code | 20:50 |
@daviddelikat | +use WebGUI::Asset::EMSSubmission; | 20:51 |
@daviddelikat | and | 20:51 |
@daviddelikat | +use WebGUI::Asset::EMSSubmissionForm; | 20:51 |
+perlDreamer | and that makes links show up in the templates so that we can find out how to use those? | 20:52 |
@daviddelikat | currently if you try to view the submission queu | 20:52 |
@daviddelikat | it just failes and shows you the | 20:52 |
@daviddelikat | schedule | 20:52 |
@daviddelikat | .. the main page of the ems ... | 20:52 |
@daviddelikat | I have it working by inserting the 'use' statements in the appropriate modules... | 20:53 |
@daviddelikat | I'm just wondering if that is the correct place for them | 20:53 |
@daviddelikat | ... I'm not to familiar with moose... | 20:53 |
@daviddelikat | brb | 20:53 |
+perlDreamer | kk | 20:53 |
+perlDreamer | with or without Moose, it's probably okay to add "use" statements to a module | 20:55 |
@daviddelikat | ... mmmmm grilled meatlof ..... | 20:55 |
@daviddelikat | s/of/loaf/ | 20:55 |
+perlDreamer | dude, we can chat after lunch! | 20:55 |
@daviddelikat | its OK, I need to make up for sleeping in today... | 20:56 |
* daviddelikat got started around 10... | 20:56 | |
@daviddelikat | so I'll push the code change | 20:56 |
@daviddelikat | do you want me to write up the submission process then? | 20:57 |
@daviddelikat | or do you want to have ahack at it first? | 20:57 |
+perlDreamer | I would love to have some docs about the submission process | 20:58 |
+perlDreamer | but please don't write anything too involved, like I'd mentioned, just bullet points | 20:58 |
+perlDreamer | I'll take care of posting a bug, and backporting the change to 7.10 | 20:59 |
+perlDreamer | and then I'll post a bug for the missing template variables | 20:59 |
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@daviddelikat | perlDreamer: there is still something wrong with the submission queue... | 21:15 |
+perlDreamer | ah | 21:16 |
@daviddelikat | I'll let you know when I figure it out.. | 21:16 |
+perlDreamer | thanks man, keep hacking! :) | 21:16 |
CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rd3b574d / (6 files in 6 dirs): Dump WebGUI Statistics. - http://git.io/K1JMAg | 21:29 |
@scrottie | perlDreamer, where's the git repo for this middleware? | 21:39 |
haarg | which middleware? | 21:40 |
@scrottie | the reverse proxy thing that's leaking inodes? | 21:41 |
haarg | lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/HttpProxy.pm | 21:41 |
@scrottie | oooh, it's an asset. | 21:41 |
haarg | it seems like for the wg8 upgrade scripts, we should have a simpler way to find the webgui lib directory | 21:45 |
haarg | in general, i don't think there should be anything that is "the webgui lib dir" but given that this is a conversion process there is kind of a need to do it | 21:46 |
haarg | i prefer finding it the way i did in addMaintenancePageToConfig.pl, but either way it should probably be a reusable function | 21:47 |
haarg | although i kind of hate to add it to either WebGUI::Paths or WebGUI::Upgrade::Script | 21:47 |
+perlDreamer | haarg, we've been down this road before :) | 22:14 |
+perlDreamer | and I agree with you | 22:15 |
+perlDreamer | it sucks to find the WebGUI lib dir | 22:15 |
+perlDreamer | and it sucks to add it to Paths | 22:15 |
haarg | could possibly put it in its own module | 22:25 |
haarg | WebGUI::Upgrade::7to8 or something | 22:25 |
+perlDreamer | we'll need it for a while, as more stuff gets removed from the core | 22:26 |
haarg | err | 22:27 |
haarg | thinking about it more | 22:27 |
haarg | i realize | 22:27 |
haarg | rm_lib | 22:28 |
haarg | in WebGUI::Upgrade::Script | 22:28 |
haarg | already exists | 22:28 |
* perlDreamer is embarrassed | 22:33 | |
CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r0da6ffa / (3 files): Refactor upgrade scripts to better delete files and workflow activities. - http://git.io/EmSniA | 22:42 |
CIA-47 | webgui: Graham Knop WebGUI8 * r2bd090c / share/upgrades/7.10.23-8.0.0/removeWebGUIStatistics.pl : use proper mechanism for deleting statistics modules - http://git.io/D454DA | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | thanks haarg | 23:02 |
@daviddelikat | perlDreamer: question... | 23:08 |
+perlDreamer | yo ? | 23:09 |
@daviddelikat | one of the bits that needs fixing for the event mangement system | 23:09 |
@daviddelikat | is some i18n text | 23:09 |
@daviddelikat | tyhere are two solutions: | 23:09 |
@daviddelikat | 1. change the i18n category in the code | 23:09 |
@daviddelikat | 2. move the i18n items to the correct category | 23:09 |
@daviddelikat | which do you prefer? | 23:09 |
+perlDreamer | are the i18n items used anywhere else? | 23:10 |
@daviddelikat | I don't think so | 23:10 |
+perlDreamer | it would be good to check that | 23:10 |
@daviddelikat | I creted the new category after I had some items completed | 23:10 |
+perlDreamer | because in general I think you should do both 1 & 2 | 23:10 |
@daviddelikat | only one of them will fix the problem | 23:11 |
@daviddelikat | if I do both I will create a new [roblem | 23:11 |
@daviddelikat | s/[/p/ | 23:11 |
+perlDreamer | what is that | 23:11 |
+perlDreamer | and can you give me some code to look at for particulars? | 23:11 |
@daviddelikat | the module in question is | 23:12 |
@daviddelikat | lib/WebGUI/Asset/EMSSubmission.pm | 23:12 |
@daviddelikat | do you want me to leave the origin i18n items in the original module? | 23:13 |
@daviddelikat | and add a duplicate to the correct module? | 23:13 |
+perlDreamer | no, if it's duplicate, please just refer to it by its particular namespace | 23:13 |
+perlDreamer | no sense making Bart's job more difficult | 23:13 |
@daviddelikat | should I leave them in the current namespace then? | 23:14 |
@daviddelikat | so that other languages do not need to be fixed... | 23:14 |
+perlDreamer | if you can, that would be good | 23:14 |
+perlDreamer | since it's already been translated into Spanish, German and Dutch | 23:15 |
@daviddelikat | I'll just change the code to use the namespace where they are defined | 23:15 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc22bc0c / lib/WebGUI/AssetExportHtml.pm : Add missing POD to AssetExportHtml. - http://git.io/Z1FjkA | 00:57 |
sbaur | how can I determine which site is generating my "A workflow activity has a priority that is too high" messages (every 10 minutes) | 01:28 |
sbaur | the message just says localhost | 01:28 |
sbaur | or, what table shows that priority?, there are only 8 sites to search through | 01:30 |
sbaur | found it in WorkflowInstance | 01:32 |
sbaur | argh! this stupid useless email alert is going to drive me crazy | 01:54 |
sbaur | so, my high priority message is being caused by a custom workflow that runs on new user registration. It has a Last State of error. Is there some way to figure out what the error is? | 02:03 |
sbaur | when i run spectre in debug, all it says is Got an error response for X7ET6m4l1EUsOREaEVn5IA | 02:10 |
sbaur | and after I try to run it by hand, it's as if I'd preformed a "become this user" command | 02:11 |
sbaur | just strange all around | 02:11 |
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haarg | sbaur, sounds like it would be hard to diagnose without seeing the code for the workflow | 02:23 |
sbaur | the problem is finding a code, or anything | 02:23 |
sbaur | i wound up just deleting the 3 that were having problems, and hope it doesn't show up again | 02:23 |
sbaur | and i just tested with a new bogus registartion, which sent the email (what the workflow does) successfully | 02:25 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r0423bb9 / build.sh : force usage of the earlier, working version of Proc::ProcessTable. - http://git.io/g1FIaQ | 05:06 |
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+perlDreamer | morning folks | 16:47 |
+BartJol | morning | 16:52 |
haarg | morning | 17:16 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rb7557e4 / build.sh : Cleanup build script - http://git.io/yUTZBQ | 17:26 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r6150e11 / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Add all the prerequisites back in. - http://git.io/47YHjQ | 17:42 |
haarg | perlDreamer, what does Proc::ProcessTable get used for in webgui/wre ? | 17:45 |
+perlDreamer | It is used to kill processes with too much memory | 17:46 |
+perlDreamer | so, in lib/WRE/Starman.pm (or what used to be Modperl.pm) | 17:48 |
haarg | yeah | 17:48 |
haarg | that dist.ini is kind of broken | 17:49 |
haarg | needs = 0 or a specific version number in the prereq list for CHI, Email::Valid, etc | 17:49 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r4effd39 / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Fix dist.ini formatting issues. - http://git.io/ToBkiw | 17:53 |
+perlDreamer | thanks haarg | 17:53 |
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+perlDreamer | haarg, after all this time, how feasible would it be to merge WebGUI 8 back into master? | 18:01 |
haarg | just as feasible as the merges into webgui8 have been | 18:02 |
+perlDreamer | mmm | 18:02 |
haarg | git doesn't care about merging a into b or b into a, it's just merging a and b together | 18:03 |
CIA-47 | webgui: JT Smith master * rba68ae8 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/EMSSubmission.pm): fixed possible values and default values on EMS submission. - http://git.io/an5DHQ | 18:04 |
+perlDreamer | yeah, but I remember the train wreck that was trying to merge more than about 1 version per time from master into 8 | 18:05 |
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haarg | you can always do it one version at a time | 18:05 |
haarg | once you have master fully merged into webgui8, you can merge webgui8 into master, and it will basically just fast forward to the new commit | 18:07 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * re07d824 / build.sh : No more manually downloaded perl modules - http://git.io/CZNmlg | 20:08 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * re5f987b / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix a bad nested macro in the Shop's my purchases template. Fixes bug #12312 - http://git.io/EXcHlg | 21:23 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r0a521c3 / build.sh : Use cpanm to download and install the Text::Aspell module - http://git.io/vA26Fw | 23:38 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r2645069 / wre/lib/WRE/Mysql.pm : Yard out WRE specific locations for percona's mysql. - http://git.io/g8jeuQ | 00:59 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rba8b0fc / (wre/lib/WRE/WebguiUpdate.pm wre/sbin/webguiupdate.pl): Get rid of the WebGUI update script that didn't update well. - http://git.io/wu7zTQ | 01:02 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r99ae1c1 / wre/sbin/wreconsole.pl : Rip out mysql setup code from the wreconsole. - http://git.io/XQFYXg | 01:09 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rb50a3aa / wre/sbin/logrotate.pl : Remove the logrotate script, since we replaced it with logrotated. - http://git.io/rM19eA | 01:25 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r8d56ac9 / build.sh : Make ImageMagick install into the right place. - http://git.io/5bV_bA | 02:02 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: JT Smith master * rdc137d1 / (build.sh getsource.sh): remove unneeded stuff - http://git.io/epcmtA | 02:40 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rce37f1e / (BUILD.macosx BUILD.redhat): Update build instructions with sample mysql configs. - http://git.io/vqdGgg | 02:47 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r4118a05 / wre/var/setupfiles/my.cnf : Sample my.cnf file for InnoDB. - http://git.io/c3FxIQ | 02:47 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r6d49e1d / (4 files in 3 dirs): Remove awstats. Also some modperl cleanup in WRE::Site. - http://git.io/JcDdFg | 02:50 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r3ef7123 / (5 files in 2 dirs): Modperl => Starman changes. - http://git.io/5vlZIQ | 03:20 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9d122a6 / (9 files in 2 dirs): Update the copyright year to 2012. - http://git.io/GrGjbg | 03:20 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * ra0d1710 / (wre/sbin/wresetup.pl wre/sbin/wreconsole.pl): Replace a large daemon with a small script. People will need to setup the wre.conf file and then use this script for base WRE setup. - http://git.io/bUM_WA | 03:20 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r317e75e / wre/var/setupfiles/wre.conf : Cleanup the wre.conf file to remove webstats and webgui update. - http://git.io/UQoK6g | 19:01 |
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sbaur | Is there an alternate url to try to get to the webgui blog? seems whenever i try to get to blog.webgui.org, i get a message that the connection was reset. (2 tries, one before the new year, and the other, now) | 02:07 |
sbaur | it's quite possible, if others are having as much trouble getting to the blog as i am that even if they want to find out about webgui 8, they are unable to | 02:13 |
haarg | can you try from a different location? or maybe a traceroute? | 02:14 |
sbaur | thanks for the suggestiong | 02:16 |
sbaur | looks like one of my FF extensions is causing the problem, because it works fine in Safari | 02:17 |
sbaur | now, to figure out what the problem is | 02:17 |
haarg | odd | 02:17 |
sbaur | it's adblock plus having a problem | 02:18 |
sbaur | and now it gets truly weird. I disabled abp once, and now it will display the blog whether it's disabled or enabled | 02:20 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r5dd3865 / build.sh : Restore original build script - http://git.io/Y8cM0Q | 17:47 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r41d1150 / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Restore original dist.ini - http://git.io/NZOQ-g | 17:47 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r300cd51 / (10 files in 8 dirs): remove support for the serverside spell checker since most modern browsers do this natively - http://git.io/hWZJ8Q | 19:17 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r0be2c02 / build.sh : No need for Text::Aspell any longer. - http://git.io/7_RlwQ | 19:18 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * reab591a / (build.sh getsource.sh): Remove download and build support for aspell. - http://git.io/MmjXQA | 19:18 |
CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r1e8d6d9 / sbin/testEnvironment.pl : Remove module check for Text::Aspell - http://git.io/6qIfEA | 19:27 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r7da9a32 / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Remove requirement for Text::Aspell and add the PSGI testing module - http://git.io/zI7oWA | 19:30 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r82dbc7f / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Fix a bad version number. - http://git.io/hxakXw | 19:49 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9ba4f2c / BUILD.redhat : Paragraphs - http://git.io/NwKKog | 20:41 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rb67824f / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Add requirements for Starman and Server::Starter - http://git.io/MTbQxw | 20:41 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rd66facd / wre/docs/changelog.txt : Document changes for this WRE. - http://git.io/wylSQA | 21:13 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9677543 / wre/docs/upgrade.txt : new upgrade instructions for 8 - http://git.io/whxLNw | 21:13 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r22dc592 / (wre/etc/wre.conf wre/var/setupfiles/wre.conf): Move the wre.conf file right into etc/ - http://git.io/eScpkw | 21:49 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r80fccc9 / wre/docs/install.txt : First cut at install instructions. Needs specifics on adding sites and starting services. - http://git.io/ndU40Q | 22:00 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r6d148fb / wre/docs/gotcha.txt : Update the gotcha file. - http://git.io/HwiW-A | 22:07 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * reb3e5a4 / build.sh : We always have an etc directory now. - http://git.io/jDMduQ | 22:08 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r6ab2469 / wre/sbin/wresetup.pl : wresetup cleanup, remove unused files, simplify the config passing, setup the demo nginx file. - http://git.io/J2We_g | 22:33 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * re149592 / wre/sbin/wresetup.pl : Fix perl syntax errors in the setup script. - http://git.io/oW55gQ | 22:37 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rff3d618 / (3 files): Basic demo setup, probably non-functional. - http://git.io/uC8zXw | 22:40 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rfec7f79 / wre/sbin/wresetup.pl : Add feedback about what the setup script is doing. - http://git.io/9LAzdQ | 22:45 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rdf1d7e5 / wre/sbin/wresetup.pl : put the logrotate file into the correct location inside the wre. - http://git.io/anBmxg | 22:47 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rf62fd7c / (4 files): Clean out code for windows. - http://git.io/adMO5Q | 23:00 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rf56453a / wre/lib/WRE/File.pm : Give diagnostics for template processing problems via WRE::File. - http://git.io/I806nw | 23:14 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rc0696f6 / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.conf : Fix an argument quoting issue, / is not allowed as a bareword. - http://git.io/vA2mlg | 23:16 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r2affa3a / (wre/lib/WRE/Mysql.pm wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm): Fix syntax errors in WRE modules. - http://git.io/-prlJg | 23:22 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r3aad59a / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : Add App::Ack to the wre. - http://git.io/F5WMlw | 00:43 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rd67d8e7 / wre/lib/WRE/Site.pm : Update the location of the create.sql file. - http://git.io/ZGYYmw | 02:53 |
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CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rbfa1b74 / share/create.sql : Update SQL dump syntax so that Mysql 5.5 will read it - http://git.io/TiVhSA | 04:41 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r23d3f79 / wre/lib/WRE/Host.pm : Fix privileged user detection. - http://git.io/Wu4VLw | 17:55 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * re952ac9 / wre/lib/WRE/Mysql.pm : Do not declare services to be down unless they're actually down. - http://git.io/CFyivQ | 17:59 |
@scrottie | yay. | 18:25 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r58f35c3 / wre/var/setupfiles/my.cnf : Set the default mysql user to be webgui. - http://git.io/hEInxA | 18:27 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * ra44d812 / wre/lib/WRE/Mysql.pm : Use service for shutting down and starting mysql. - http://git.io/P3bH5Q | 18:27 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r7ea6018 / wre/docs/install.txt : Updated install instructions. - http://git.io/PVUMdw | 18:27 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9bfd3ac / (8 files in 5 dirs): Strip out all Mysql service controls from the WRE. - http://git.io/RhszZA | 19:49 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rcc9ae9c / wre/lib/WRE/Site.pm : Put a little Mysql back in - http://git.io/zgVlFA | 19:55 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rdd81abc / wre/etc/wre.conf : And a little mysql config, too - http://git.io/6wo2Qg | 19:56 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rff57acb / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.template : Integrate Bart's nginx config file. - http://git.io/TUDJIQ | 20:23 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r662e341 / (wre/lib/WRE/File.pm wre/t/File.t): More template variable pruning. You should just use the config object. - http://git.io/3My1CQ | 20:23 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rf89aeb0 / wre/etc/wre.conf : No tabs. - http://git.io/Mwk5kQ | 23:30 |
CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r56ca2b0 / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Survey.pm : Fix some warnings under perl 5.14.2 - http://git.io/GbLWgQ | 23:39 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r6e8d53a / wre/sbin/wresetup.pl : Build log and run directories in the new wre - http://git.io/O1VJ3g | 23:43 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r98af4b7 / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : Fix a command line arg typo for starman. - http://git.io/kxWAOA | 23:43 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rf1cfb4f / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : More starman command line fixes. - http://git.io/grYTXA | 23:56 |
CIA-47 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r20d7353 / app.psgi : No more FindBin. Set PERL5LIB instead. - http://git.io/NgWkpQ | 23:59 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rfd4f183 / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : More command line fixes for starman - http://git.io/-5t2EA | 00:21 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r6a21065 / Task-WebGUI/dist.ini : We also need N::S::SS::PreFork - http://git.io/UwhmmA | 00:30 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r2c4fc97 / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : Throw start_server into the background and use system to invoke it. - http://git.io/1CoLtQ | 01:00 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r92369c1 / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : Only update the wre config if stopping or starting really worked. Fix stopping server_starter. - http://git.io/2YF2Zw | 01:12 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * re75a835 / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : Preceeding spaces in commands. - http://git.io/aV5gTA | 01:13 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rcd28798 / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.conf : Fix a templating issue with seting the system user in nginx. - http://git.io/gq7vfA | 01:33 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rb85f7f4 / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.conf : And another fix. TT barewords??? - http://git.io/B08oQA | 01:35 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r2a3c836 / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.conf : Remove configuration in the master server because it's already in the per-site config - http://git.io/9GUckg | 01:40 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r0202f3f / wre/var/setupfiles/mime.types : Mime types for for nginx is in a different format from apache. shocker. - http://git.io/XSF0iQ | 01:55 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rcb9116f / wre/var/setupfiles/mime.types : remove duplicate ogg entry. - http://git.io/dylnlw | 01:57 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9822078 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Set the number of nginx workers in wre.conf. Fix syntax errors in the nginx templates (missing semi-colons). - http://git.io/0gT2vQ | 02:03 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r6ead253 / (wre/sbin/wresetup.pl wre/sbin/wredemosetup.pl): Move demo setup into its own file, add webgui log file setup - http://git.io/JkeqMw | 02:13 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rccdb7ef / wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm : More config file sanity. - http://git.io/ioWGEw | 03:17 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9186ce7 / wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm : nginx installs into sbin, I guess. - http://git.io/bd2ixw | 03:19 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rbe47c78 / wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm : Have to tell nginx that "stop" is a signal. - http://git.io/nwYDiQ | 03:27 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rc8da009 / wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm : No more modproxy! - http://git.io/BIxNfA | 03:30 |
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CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r4f3b86c / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.conf : Try serving extras via nginx. - http://git.io/MeXX8w | 18:25 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r46180af / (2 files): Location blocks can't be inherited by declaring them outside of a server block. - http://git.io/_0KaYg | 18:30 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r8ba3bbe / (wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm wre/sbin/wreservice.pl): Refactor Nginx.pm to remove common code for testing port privileges and building base command paths. Add a reload command for nginx. - http://git.io/N9Axmw | 19:11 |
CIA-47 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r44e3705 / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.template : Do a better job of handling sitename.com and www.sitename.com - http://git.io/BtLoqw | 19:11 |
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metaperl|2 | hey what's Scott doing here? :) | 22:15 |
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dln | Man, freenode has a lot of rooms. | 22:21 |
haarg | is that a problem? | 22:22 |
dln | nope | 22:22 |
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dln | does webgui run in any environments besides *nix/apache/mod_perl ? | 22:33 |
@scrottie | dln, WebGUI8 doesn't run in Apache/mod_perl. | 22:34 |
@daviddelikat | webgui8 uses plack and so will use any httpd you know of | 22:34 |
@daviddelikat | however mysql is the only db backend to date | 22:35 |
@scrottie | I don't know if anyone has tested it on Strawberry or ActiveState, but I know developers use OSX | 22:35 |
@daviddelikat | microsoft support was dropped a couple years ago | 22:36 |
@daviddelikat | the best solution there is to use a virtual machine | 22:37 |
@daviddelikat | [ the best known solution that is ] | 22:37 |
@daviddelikat | dln: are you looking to get WG up with the least trouble? | 22:39 |
@daviddelikat | I can share my virtual machine with you if you like | 22:40 |
dln | http://www.webgui.org/user-guides/developers-guide/developers-guide-wiki/url-handlers seems to imply that its bound to mod_perl. This is incorrect? | 22:47 |
haarg | webgui 7 is bound to mod_perl | 22:47 |
haarg | webgui 8 is not | 22:48 |
metaperl | I'd like to say hello and give my feedback. I first went to wikimatrix.org and compared a bunch of options for redoing our site docs. Then I noticed Tiki CMS and thought: "why not redo the whole thing" ... I never compared webgui because it was not in wiki matrix... | 22:49 |
dln | ah. | 22:50 |
metaperl | but now I will compare it... `apt-cache search webgui` shows it in ubuntu, but I wonder which version... and probably I should install from source knowing my urge to supply patches | 22:50 |
metaperl | even though website recommends against it | 22:50 |
dln | Yes, I'd like to get WG up on a current debian. can I just do apt-get webgui? | 22:51 |
metaperl | dln do `apt-cache search webgui` to see | 22:51 |
haarg | the webgui package in debian isn't maintained by anyone at plainblack. i don't know what version or state it is in. | 22:51 |
metaperl | one thing: there is no documentation link at the main page of webgui website... | 22:51 |
@scrottie | haarg, the guy who does it updated it about a month or two ago | 22:52 |
metaperl | oh its on github? | 22:52 |
@scrottie | you can't just "apt-get install" it and have it go. there are a couple of set-up steps left. sometimes people come in here after having done that and wonder where their site is (hint: you have to tell it which domain you're hosting) | 22:53 |
@scrottie | metaperl, http://github.com/plainblack/webgui | 22:53 |
metaperl | yeah that's what made mention it | 22:53 |
metaperl | but that's not listed here - http://tiki.org/CMS+Landscape | 22:54 |
metaperl | oops | 22:54 |
metaperl | i mean here - http://www.webgui.org/learn/download/source-installs | 22:54 |
@scrottie | CMS Resources > Community Wiki is in the bottom right corner, a bit burried. not clearly labled either, re: webgui.org doc link | 22:54 |
@scrottie | metaperl, you're right. and I don't have access to that site. | 22:55 |
@scrottie | perlDreamer, you awake? | 22:55 |
metaperl | so if I want to download and install from github, is that what I would supply patches against? | 22:56 |
@scrottie | what patches are you wanting to apply? | 22:56 |
metaperl | i dont know yet | 22:56 |
@scrottie | well, you certainly could fork the github repo | 22:56 |
metaperl | but my goal is to download, install and use this and as things come up, supply pathces | 22:56 |
haarg | webgui 8 is going to be ready "any time now" | 22:57 |
@scrottie | ah. yeah, then you would want to fork the github repo. | 22:57 |
haarg | https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/tree/WebGUI8 | 22:57 |
@scrottie | perlDreamer declared it ready for testing and is now on a crash WRE-for-8 coding session | 22:57 |
@scrottie | I personally would suggest skipping the wre for wG8 if you're somewhat experienced with Linux/Unix. | 22:58 |
@scrottie | just use your own perl and mysql and go through the set-up process. | 22:58 |
@scrottie | loading the database, running upgrades, etc, etc. source comes with install instructions. | 22:58 |
metaperl | ok. that's more my style anyway | 22:59 |
@scrottie | wG8 is not heavily tested yet. expect bumps. | 22:59 |
@scrottie | then you're more than welcome to push commits back to github and then send pull requests for them, if you think other people would benefit from your work. | 22:59 |
dln | on a single host install, will SQLite work? | 22:59 |
haarg | no | 23:00 |
haarg | it won't work on anything but mysql | 23:00 |
haarg | that readme in the wg8 branch could use some updates too | 23:03 |
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@scrottie | I've been maintaining that but I haven't pulled a fresh copy of wG8 and tested it since perlDreamer's binge | 00:02 |
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haarg | a lot of that stuff in the root dir is leftover from when patspam was working on the psgi conversion, and just hasn't gotten cleaned up | 00:12 |
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dln | do we care about the possibility of supporting SQLite? Because I'd like to do that. | 03:26 |
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bsdwarrior2 | anyone around | 05:00 |
@scrottie | sometimes. | 05:20 |
@scrottie | what's up? | 05:20 |
bsdwarrior2 | trying to figure out what os to use for wre and why wre binaries are from 2009 | 05:22 |
@scrottie | judging by your nick, I'd suggest using BSD and doing a source install. | 05:23 |
@scrottie | that amounts to MySQL, Apache and modperl (for WebGUI 7.x, which is stable), and a whole mess of perl modules | 05:24 |
bsdwarrior2 | scrottie - im up for any os however, I dont want to spend 3 hours tweaking a source install under freebsd every time I upgrade the software | 05:24 |
@scrottie | oh, and mysql | 05:24 |
@scrottie | after things are installed, the situation is the same with a source install vs the wre... new versions of WebGUI want new perl modules | 05:24 |
@scrottie | and modules don't always install cleanly | 05:25 |
@scrottie | the wre shouldn't be 2+ years old though. where did you get it from? | 05:25 |
@scrottie | or maybe it should be. | 05:25 |
bsdwarrior2 | I'm doing a new install. | 05:25 |
bsdwarrior2 | the site says a wre is 300% faster then source. | 05:26 |
bsdwarrior2 | seems like a big catch 22 | 05:26 |
@scrottie | ya know, I'm not sure what was tuned that made that true, but I suspect that it isn't any longer true. | 05:26 |
@scrottie | do you have to plan for a lot of capacity? | 05:27 |
bsdwarrior2 | I have alot of capacity however I think 20 gig is plenty to start for one site | 05:28 |
@scrottie | if capacity isn't a problem, then don't worry about performance and which is faster. | 05:29 |
@scrottie | if capacity is a concern, then I can tell you about some work I did ;) | 05:29 |
@scrottie | where did you get your WRE from? | 05:30 |
@scrottie | exactly? have a link to the page that links to it? | 05:30 |
bsdwarrior2 | one sec | 05:31 |
bsdwarrior2 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/pbwebgui/files/WebGUI%20Runtime%20Environment/WRE%200.9.3/ | 05:31 |
bsdwarrior2 | those binaries are from 2009. So just use source? | 05:31 |
@scrottie | sure enough. wow. | 05:32 |
@scrottie | up to you. wre's main benefit is it saves a lot of time and possible wrong turns setting things up. | 05:33 |
@scrottie | I thought Doug was building a new version just a few months back but I guess it never made an official release. | 05:33 |
@scrottie | look at the source install instructions and decide if it's something you want to tackle. | 05:33 |
@scrottie | http://www.webgui.org/wiki/source-install | 05:34 |
@scrottie | that's for wG7 | 05:34 |
@scrottie | wG8 is very different | 05:34 |
bsdwarrior2 | I'll glady upload a freebsd 8.2 vm with webgui installed when im done. | 05:35 |
bsdwarrior2 | no point to repeat the work | 05:35 |
@scrottie | https://github.com/plainblack/webgui/blob/20d735362cf3b7eef8cd271800c784903c9d8e0b/docs/install.txt ... for wG8 (which is just reaching the beta test stage) | 05:37 |
@scrottie | that runs under plack rather than Apache/mod_perl | 05:38 |
bsdwarrior2 | I dont have the time to test beta software, sorry. | 05:38 |
bsdwarrior2 | I'm converting a production site | 05:38 |
@scrottie | ah | 05:38 |
bsdwarrior2 | are you a developer or ? | 05:39 |
@scrottie | yeah. | 05:42 |
bsdwarrior2 | cool. Thanks for the help | 05:43 |
@scrottie | sure thing. good luck. and if you're trying to find someone in here and there doesn't seem to be someone, try office hours in US Mountain Standard Time. | 05:44 |
bsdwarrior2 | are you familar with www.phila.k12.pa.us did they have alot of customizations I also work for a school district. | 05:44 |
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dln | Achoo! | 21:10 |
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@daviddelikat | dln scrottie -- wow, it doesn't get any duller'n this... | 01:44 |
@scrottie | dull... if only... | 01:47 |
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CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r798f9fa / wre/sbin/wresetup.pl : Need to process the templated logrotate config file. - http://git.io/kMb3nQ | 02:03 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r7720a6c / wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm : Need the wreConfig object if we're going to change status. - http://git.io/5UdyFw | 02:05 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rfb0912f / wre/var/setupfiles/wre.logrotate : Fix a logrotate syntax problem - http://git.io/k0oBXw | 02:07 |
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dln | spaking of dull, i just saw a fascinating article in "Gun and Garden" about an independent blacksmith who makes beautiful chef's knives | 03:17 |
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@daviddelikat | chef's knives sound cool. sneeze, not so cool. | 04:18 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4ab6db8 / lib/WebGUI/Workflow/Instance.pm : Fix some bad POD formatting. - http://git.io/8rd3Sw | 04:41 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc94af49 / README : Fix the README file so it flows logically and works. - http://git.io/cSVMFA | 04:43 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rc867496 / wre/var/setupfiles/nginx.template : Set the correct root for the extras directory in nginx. - http://git.io/HdzHWg | 04:49 |
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@scrottie | ) | 08:59 |
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@scrottie | hey BartJol. good morning. | 09:57 |
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+BartJol | hey scrottie | 17:07 |
+BartJol | good afternoon | 17:07 |
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* scrottie stretches | 18:48 | |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rf040ef4 / (wre/etc/wre.conf wre/sbin/backup.pl): First cut at making database backups work again. - http://git.io/mS1w1Q | 21:01 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r74ecef1 / wre/sbin/backup.pl : Syntax error - http://git.io/YrBoQA | 21:08 |
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CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r8063392 / wre/sbin/backup.pl : Fix mysql dumping of databases for backups. - http://git.io/E5jvnw | 00:19 |
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CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r00fb0bb / (wre/etc/wre.conf wre/sbin/backup.pl): Make sure that uncompressed SQL files are backed up. Do not backup demo sites. - http://git.io/DI6IRA | 00:23 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r22bb269 / wre/sbin/backup.pl : shell quoting problem. - http://git.io/k-Gtag | 00:24 |
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CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rb7a6870 / (wre/etc/wre.conf wre/sbin/backup.pl): Backup SQL files, even if they're not compressed, fix a quoting problem in backing up files. - http://git.io/whFfug | 00:34 |
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CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rec25867 / (wre/etc/wre.conf wre/sbin/backup.pl): Fix an entry in wre.conf. Make local copying quiet now that it works, and remove duplicate exclusion code from the remote copy. - http://git.io/WzL-mg | 01:18 |
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@scrottie | g'night | 13:08 |
+BartJol | eeeh | 13:11 |
+BartJol | goodnight | 13:11 |
+BartJol | scrottie: you wanted to talk to me yesterday? | 13:11 |
@scrottie | was just being social, since I happened to see you hop on. that's all. | 13:46 |
+BartJol | ah | 14:43 |
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sbaur | Is WebGUI 8 still going to be using yui? | 19:46 |
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@scrottie | sbaur, yeah, looks like it. I think it got a version bump. | 19:53 |
sbaur | Then maybe I'll put a request in to have all the yui/examples removed from the codebase. A security scanner run against one of my sites really doesn't like all the php in there | 19:59 |
@scrottie | yes, there should not be PHP distributed with WebGUI. | 20:03 |
@scrottie | please do. or even send a pull request. | 20:03 |
@scrottie | I'm with your security scanner on that one. | 20:04 |
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vanjwilson | Trying to add a couple of hidden fields to a data form with a jQuery autocomplete widget outside the data form, so that I can pick them up with a Workflow Activity, but they are not getting passed to the Activity. | 21:01 |
vanjwilson | I tried adding hidden fields to the Data Form and then replacing their values with jQuery, but when I turn Admin Off, they seem to go away. | 21:03 |
@scrottie | I'd have to see code to even have a guess... pasting relavent bits to gist.github.com..? | 21:08 |
@scrottie | there's no fundamental reason why non-admins couldn't submit hidden fields or use jquery. | 21:08 |
vanjwilson | I think I found the hidden field problem--someone else did the template at the beginning of this project | 21:16 |
vanjwilson | and they had this loop in the custom Template::Toolkit template: [% UNLESS field_isHidden %]... [% END%] | 21:16 |
vanjwilson | That should be unnecessary, because <input type="hidden"> shouldn't display anyway, right? | 21:16 |
@scrottie | <input type="hidden"> will be sent to the browser, but not shown to the user. | 21:22 |
@scrottie | [% UNLESS ... %] sounds like it is keeping it from sending it to the browser. | 21:23 |
@scrottie | jQuery can't populate data into it if it isn't sent to the browser. | 21:23 |
@scrottie | and the browser obviously won't send data back to the server unless there is a form element there, hidden or otherwise | 21:23 |
@scrottie | yeah, that UNLESS is quite likely wrong. | 21:23 |
vanjwilson | I just commented that UNLESS loop out, and that made them show up, but now the isHidden fields are showing up as type="text" , | 21:24 |
vanjwilson | which they shouldn't be, because I do, in fact, want them present, but hidden | 21:24 |
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@scrottie | paste the output HTML along with the related bit of the template into gist.github.com. | 21:25 |
@scrottie | I'm not going to speculate based on a description. | 21:25 |
vanjwilson | Ok | 21:25 |
sbaur | scrottie: out of my meeting and RFE created http://www.webgui.org/rfe/request-for-enhancement/12315 | 21:27 |
sbaur | except it ate half my rfe | 21:27 |
vanjwilson | @scrottie, here is the link: git://gist.github.com/1602537.git | 21:30 |
@scrottie | sbaur, add the missing half to comments? sorry about that... | 21:33 |
sbaur | i did | 21:33 |
@scrottie | and I utterly hate webforms. invariably, due to JS bugs, session timeouts, run-away spam control, browser crashes, and so on, I lose my work. hate, hate, hate. | 21:33 |
vanjwilson | @scrottie, could it be that, in Edit Field, the "Status" can be set to "Hidden", but "Hidden" is not a choice for "type | 21:34 |
vanjwilson | just "Text", "Radio", "Checkbox" etc., but no "Hidden" ? | 21:34 |
@scrottie | vanjwilson, it's easier to paste the http address ;) but I'll check that out with git | 21:34 |
vanjwilson | Sorry, here it is: https://gist.github.com/1602537 | 21:34 |
@scrottie | vanjwilson, it seems like two different concepts are being confused... WebGUI hidding elements from non-admins and HTML <input type="hidden"> | 21:35 |
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@scrottie | there's probably a firefox plugin that lets me view git:// urls ;) | 21:35 |
vanjwilson | @scrottie, here's the public URL: https://gist.github.com/1602537 | 21:36 |
danny_mk | quick question, I am trying to play around with WebGUI8 but it seems like some of the Assets are either missing or replaced. Check http://www.dbash.com/ | 21:36 |
vanjwilson | I agree, about the 2 different concepts | 21:36 |
danny_mk | For example ^AdminBar(); | 21:36 |
danny_mk | I know it is obviously in beta possibly alpha | 21:37 |
@scrottie | danny_mk: it looks like your upgrades didn't run. | 21:37 |
@scrottie | danny_mk: did you use 'wgd' to run upgradse? the script that comes with WRE doesn't work any more. the upgrade process changed. | 21:38 |
@scrottie | and if you used wgd, did you get a whole bunch of output about things it was doing that took a long time? | 21:38 |
danny_mk | I did not upgrade, I just installed a fresh copy of WebGUI8 | 21:38 |
@scrottie | and yes, you have to run upgrades even if you're doing a new install | 21:38 |
@scrottie | (unless something changed while I wasn't looking) | 21:38 |
danny_mk | OK, thank you. I will check that out. | 21:38 |
@scrottie | sure, good luck. let us know if it works! | 21:39 |
@scrottie | I'm really interested to hear how testing goes. wish I had more time for it myself! | 21:39 |
danny_mk | I am interested in the Auth portion as I use WebGUI as a front end (Content, user management, authentication, authorization) to all my Catalyst, JSF apps | 21:40 |
danny_mk | and Dancer apps | 21:40 |
@scrottie | interesting | 21:40 |
danny_mk | well almost anything that needs authentication | 21:40 |
@scrottie | danny_mk: you should write a blog post about what you're doing and how you're doing it. | 21:40 |
@scrottie | danny_mk: and consider presenting at YAPC. ;) | 21:40 |
danny_mk | Also as a front end SSO for RequestTracker, got tired of trying to fix the WebGUI Helpdesk module | 21:41 |
danny_mk | that was pretty seamless | 21:41 |
@scrottie | rad. | 21:41 |
@scrottie | Helpdesk got re-written, but I think the new version never got put out. no one tested it or gave feedback. | 21:42 |
@scrottie | that's on a todo list somewhere. | 21:42 |
* scrottie sighs | 21:42 | |
sbaur | +1 for the blog post request danny_mk | 21:42 |
danny_mk | yes, why reinvent the wheel, the user management in WebGUI is good enough | 21:42 |
@scrottie | [% field_form %] ... okay, this is just showing the form fields the code comes up with | 21:42 |
@scrottie | vanjwilson, what are you doing to make this field "hidden", and where are you doing it? which asset has this template? | 21:42 |
@scrottie | I think you told me but I forgot. | 21:43 |
@scrottie | ah, dataform. | 21:44 |
vanjwilson | It's a Data Form, and this is in a custom Data Form Template template, | 21:47 |
vanjwilson | but I just checked the Default DataForm, and same logic is there ( in HTML::Template syntax) | 21:47 |
@scrottie | right. well, the template isn't responsible for the field being type="text" rather than type="hidden" | 21:47 |
vanjwilson | But "hidden" isn't a choice in the Edit Field property box, under type, so do I have to do a JS hack on pageLoad? | 21:48 |
@scrottie | no... I'm trying to figure out if I should suggest one other thing before that... | 21:49 |
@scrottie | looking at the code | 21:49 |
sbaur | is it possible you can't see hidden because your userlevel isn't guru? | 21:50 |
@scrottie | that would be confusing the two things. | 21:50 |
@scrottie | hang on. | 21:50 |
sbaur | i meant on the edit field screen | 21:50 |
vanjwilson | but I'm logged in as Admin (user id 3) ? | 21:51 |
sbaur | check admin's profile and see what the ui level is set to. probably already at guru, but maybe not? | 21:52 |
vanjwilson | UI Level is set to "9 Guru" | 21:53 |
sbaur | i just created a demo site, added a DF and hidden definitely shows up as the first type in the edit field screen. demo is running 7.9.34 stable | 21:54 |
vanjwilson | I'm running 7.10.22 | 21:55 |
sbaur | I don't have 7.10 installed anywhere so I can't help you there... | 21:55 |
@scrottie | /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/DataForm.pm getRecordTemplateVars... | 21:59 |
vanjwilson | I'm checking another site we manage that we left at 7.9.34, because it's dev site broke on 7.10... | 22:04 |
vanjwilson | "Hidden" is not a choice for the "Type" setting on my 7.9.34 site (it is in the list for "Status", but that doesn't help) | 22:06 |
vanjwilson | I searched through /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/DataForm.pm, but I only see "hidden" being used with the "Status" | 22:15 |
vanjwilson | property, not the "Type" property | 22:15 |
danny_mk | I was wondering if it is worth to make WebGUI8 available as a VM for those newbies that have problems installin 8. I used the VM from PB and stripped the wre stuff and just installed MySql, apache and 8, took a few tries but after a few hours I got it done. Is it worth to make it available for others that want to test in a sandbox? | 22:17 |
vanjwilson | @scrottie, @sbaur: I found a "Hidden.pm" in the Form directory, which Form.pm calls for through Pluggable, and it looks like | 22:28 |
vanjwilson | it would return the correct HTML. It's just not in any of my lists of Types on the 3 sites I've checked so far. Are you sure it is | 22:28 |
vanjwilson | in the same list as "Text", "Radio", "Checkbox" etc. on your sites ? Where is that list built ? | 22:28 |
vanjwilson | /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/DataForm.pm www_editField: | 22:33 |
vanjwilson | ... | 22:33 |
vanjwilson | $f->fieldType( | 22:33 |
vanjwilson | name => "type", | 22:33 |
vanjwilson | label => $i18n->get(23), | 22:33 |
vanjwilson | hoverHelp => $i18n->get('23 description'), | 22:33 |
vanjwilson | value => "\u$field->{type}" || "Text", | 22:33 |
vanjwilson | types => [qw(DateTime TimeField Float Zipcode Text Textarea HTMLArea Url Date Email Phone Integer YesNo SelectList RadioList CheckList SelectBox File)], | 22:34 |
vanjwilson | ... | 22:34 |
vanjwilson | There is no "Hidden" in my install | 22:34 |
@scrottie | danny_mk: making wG8 available as a vm is a *fantastic* idea. | 22:47 |
@scrottie | sorry, the IMs and emails are flowing fast today. | 22:48 |
@scrottie | vanjwilson, I think you're right there. that's what I was trying to verify, reading through this code. | 22:49 |
@scrottie | that WebGUI::Form::Hidden isn't used, but ::Text (or similar) was, and making something "hidden" does something else. | 22:49 |
@scrottie | vanjwilson, I do have a constructive suggestion for you for that case though. I just wanted to make sure that was the case first. | 22:49 |
vanjwilson | @scrottie, @sbaur: I added "Hidden" to the list of types in DataForm.pm, now it's in the select list and it's generating the correct | 22:50 |
vanjwilson | HTML control, but I'm sure my change will get blown away with each upgrade... I'm explaining what I've done in our internal technical | 22:50 |
vanjwilson | specs for now | 22:50 |
@scrottie | aha. | 22:52 |
@scrottie | the FormField macro. | 22:52 |
@scrottie | your way is nicer but has you said, would get blown away in upgrades. | 22:52 |
@scrottie | as you said, using JS/jquery to add an <input type="hidden"> on the fly is an option, too. | 22:53 |
@scrottie | you stuck stick it into the template directly, if that suits your purposes. | 22:53 |
@scrottie | or you could use FormField to do the same thing... stick a WebGUI::Form:: control into the template. | 22:53 |
danny_mk | xcrottie: I have it, have to find a free place to host it. | 22:54 |
danny_mk | scrottie: I have it, have to find a free place to host it. | 22:55 |
@scrottie | I can stick it on my own personal host. | 22:56 |
vanjwilson | @scrottie, the formfield macro may be the cleanest solution, but I don't think it would get passed into my workflow activity with the rest of the DataForm object fields | 22:57 |
vanjwilson | (I had already tried adding hidden inputs hardcoded into this one template, and that didn't work) | 22:57 |
@scrottie | sourceforge.net would be another option, but I think you have to apply to get a project up there, and then they kind of push you to maintain it ;) | 22:57 |
@scrottie | vanjwilson, if you added them to the template and it didn't work, mostly like [% UNLESS %] or [% IF %] was keeping them from being sent to the browser. | 22:58 |
@scrottie | most likely | 22:58 |
danny_mk | compressing it now | 22:58 |
@scrottie | don't go anywhere if I'm slow. | 22:59 |
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danny_mk | scrottie: did you get my message? | 00:08 |
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@scrottie | danny_mk yeah, hang on... | 00:22 |
@scrottie | I can fetch that from there and host it | 00:22 |
@scrottie | fetching | 00:23 |
@scrottie | did you want to do some kind of a blog post and link to my copy? | 00:23 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: Not necessary, it is pretty easy to install. I set the site name in the configuration to be webgui.dbash.com, come to think of it I could have changed that. | 00:31 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: if you run into problems just let me know. Thank you for your help. | 00:34 |
@scrottie | well, as a suggestion, you could write something along the lines of "WebGUI 8 just came out for testing. Bleah bleah bleah. Here's an iso image that you can download to play with it. Change the hostname to something that's actually in DNS or your hosts file.". And then if you did that, I could post something on blog.webgui.org linking to it. | 00:35 |
@scrottie | up to you. I could also post something there saying "danny_mk made this vmware image of WebGUI8, check it out". | 00:35 |
+danny_mk | OK, were exactly should I write it? | 00:36 |
@scrottie | that's up to you. whatever you want to say about it. at least, attribute the work how you'd like it to be and tell people what software they need to run it (VMWare). | 00:38 |
@scrottie | or whatever =P | 00:39 |
@scrottie | if you don't generally blog technical stuff, tell me how you'd like it to be attributed and I'll post something. | 00:39 |
@scrottie | don't set up a blog just to amuse me. | 00:39 |
+danny_mk | LOL | 00:49 |
+danny_mk | that is what I was thinking. | 00:49 |
+danny_mk | I could post it here: http://www.webgui.org/etcetera once you give me a link. | 00:51 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: I have to run but check your messages for my email | 01:02 |
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+perlDreamer | afternoon, folks | 01:23 |
+perlDreamer | sbaur, I did a find /data/WebGUI/www/extras/yui -name '*.php and it showed 4 files in a yui/tests directory. There was no examples directory at all | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | it looks like the examples were removed sometime between 7.7 and 7.8 | 01:27 |
sbaur | perhaps it's a left over from an older version | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | that could definitely be | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | you're still using 7.6? | 01:28 |
sbaur | well, since i've only made it to 7.6, it's not a left over yet | 01:28 |
sbaur | working on the nested macro problem to hopefully move s40 to 7.6 soon | 01:28 |
sbaur | 2 sites "fixed", 5 to go | 01:29 |
haarg | it's too bad that issue has been so much work for you | 01:31 |
sbaur | it's a fair amount of work, and a lot of other distractions that have kept me from getting this darn upgrade done | 01:31 |
haarg | with the older parser we didn't have any real test cases how it behaved so it was kind of a best effort to match up with it | 01:31 |
sbaur | and knowing that as soon as i finish i have to test everything for 7.7 and see which of the undocumented gotcha's get us :-) | 01:32 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rfabf59f / (83 files in 40 dirs): Remove YUI tests (with and without PHP) from git repo. Fixes RFE #12315. - http://git.io/kyXFeQ | 01:41 |
sbaur | thanks Colin! | 01:44 |
+perlDreamer | technically, it _is_ a bug since we already removed stuff like that | 01:45 |
+perlDreamer | and the fact that I can do it in 5 minutes helps | 01:45 |
sbaur | :D | 01:45 |
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CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r343485c / BUILD.redhat : Note that we need rsync for backups. - http://git.io/JxkKGQ | 02:01 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r9269d29 / wre/docs/install.txt : More WRE install doc tweaks. - http://git.io/KSO4fQ | 02:07 |
+perlDreamer | I'm off to the gym, bbiaw | 02:07 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: were you able to download the VM? | 15:45 |
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pskept | where do i find the css file containing the definition for class="weblogSynopsis"? | 19:19 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: were you able to download the VM? | 19:22 |
sbaur | pskept: if you use Firebug or one of the other web developer extensions you should be able to find out from your browser | 19:32 |
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@scrottie | danny_mk, yup, downloaded it... http://cluster.slowass.net/~webgui/WebGUI.vmwarevm.zip | 19:41 |
@scrottie | I'd like to rename it to WebGUI8.vmwarevm.zip if that's okay | 19:41 |
pskept | found it thanks | 19:41 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: OK I will do a post in etcetera... | 19:42 |
+danny_mk | did you try it? | 19:42 |
@scrottie | named it WebGUI8beta.vmwarevm.zip, actually. version numbers++. | 19:43 |
@scrottie | nope. I wonder if virtualbox can open vmware images... | 19:43 |
+danny_mk | not sure | 19:43 |
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@scrottie | danny_mk, is it 1114357760 bytes long? unzip is telling me " End-of-central-directory signature not found." | 20:00 |
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+danny_mk | hmmm... I will test the zip on my windows system | 20:41 |
@daviddelikat | virtualbox runs pretty well on vmdk files. | 20:50 |
@scrottie | I might not have transferred all of it... can you check the size of the file? | 20:52 |
+danny_mk | give me a sec | 20:56 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: The size of the file is 1.86Gig, I am downloading the VMPlayer from vmware.com to try it on my Windows system. | 21:22 |
+danny_mk | -rw-r--r-- 1 xxxx xxxx 1857850933 Jan 12 21:46 WebGUI.vmwarevm.zip | 21:26 |
@scrottie | okay, mine is short. | 21:48 |
@scrottie | is it still up at your url? what was that again? | 21:49 |
@scrottie | I can wget -c | 21:49 |
@scrottie | webserver doesn't support partial transfers | 21:59 |
@scrottie | refetching | 21:59 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: hold on, sending another copy | 22:55 |
CIA-77 | webgui: David Delikat master * rbce42bc / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Content/AssetManager.pm): ticket 12318: asset error causes asset manager to fail - http://git.io/eQfZ6g | 23:21 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3b3502b / lib/WebGUI/Content/AssetManager.pm : Trim extra whitespace. - http://git.io/K84wrw | 23:35 |
+perlDreamer | scrottie, virtualbox can open vmware images | 23:35 |
+perlDreamer | as well as edit and change them | 23:35 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: http://www.dbash.com/uploads/temp/WebGUI8.zip | 23:37 |
+perlDreamer | hm, seems I'm a little behind the times since you already knew that | 23:37 |
+danny_mk | Smaller file that definitely runs in Windows | 23:37 |
+danny_mk | I had to remove the other file | 23:38 |
+danny_mk | so your download may be incomplete | 23:39 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: remember, I will post install/usage instructions at http://www.webgui.org/etcetera when you make the file available | 23:46 |
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@scrottie | what webserver are you running? | 00:00 |
@scrottie | I can't continue interrupted downloads for some reason, and the connection always drops at some point | 00:00 |
@scrottie | ah, wG8, so probably a plack server. | 00:06 |
+danny_mk | yes | 00:07 |
@scrottie | I can get you a login on cluster.slowass.net if you don't mind doing an rsync. otherwise, I don't think I can get this from you. I think the transfer times out before it's done. | 00:07 |
@scrottie | every time. | 00:07 |
@scrottie | that plus no resume. | 00:07 |
+danny_mk | ok | 00:07 |
+danny_mk | I can start it now | 00:07 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * reac3945 / wre/etc/wre.conf : No mysql monitoring in the wre. - http://git.io/UhtUOw | 00:07 |
+danny_mk | send me the login info | 00:08 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r0e35590 / wre/sbin/wremonitor.pl : Remove unused List::Util methods - http://git.io/XCzbYA | 00:19 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r00e74cb / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : Flip the sense on the success when trying to stop starman. - http://git.io/4j4lsQ | 00:33 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r2f0765a / wre/lib/WRE/Nginx.pm : Remove some debug code from Nginx's reload command. - http://git.io/wu77Jw | 00:33 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r0f22208 / wre/lib/WRE/Mysql.pm : Make sure that we always try a test database. - http://git.io/8rY7vA | 00:46 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rede97ca / wre/etc/wre.conf : No, really, the whole wre and not the etc directory again. - http://git.io/Pi9Y9A | 00:48 |
CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * r46d5e27 / wre/lib/WRE/Starman.pm : Set the user processes should be run as. - http://git.io/O54iSA | 00:54 |
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dln | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebGUI#Architecture states the rewrite is to PSGI. is PSGI the same thing as plack? | 01:33 |
haarg | they tend to get used interchangeably | 01:33 |
haarg | PSGI is the spec for how it behaves | 01:33 |
haarg | Plack is a set of libraries that implement parts of the PSGI spec. webgui 8 uses a bunch of plack libraries. | 01:34 |
haarg | https://metacpan.org/module/PSGI::FAQ more information about PSGI, Plack, and the distinction between them | 01:35 |
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dln | thanks | 02:27 |
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dln | i don't suppose there's a webgui target in macports.org? | 05:00 |
dln | Putting one there is my goal now... | 05:01 |
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@scrottie | dln, that would be very nice indeed | 05:27 |
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+perlDreamer | hey folks | 21:08 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: hope you had a good weekend, did you get the entire file? | 21:35 |
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doc_gt7 | Hello friends. Quick question. When using the wre how do you reload apache without restarting all of webgui? ( working on a macro ) | 21:42 |
+danny_mk | service webgui restartweb | 21:43 |
+danny_mk | or something like that | 21:43 |
+danny_mk | look at the options by running service webgui without any arguments | 21:43 |
+danny_mk | I am pretty sure it will show you all the options | 21:43 |
doc_gt7 | thank ya :) | 21:44 |
+danny_mk | your welcome | 21:44 |
doc_gt7 | That actually puts out: {start|stop|restart|force-reload} which seems to reload the entire shebang. | 21:45 |
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+danny_mk | hold on | 21:47 |
+danny_mk | darnit, I don't have a wre installation available. What does this file point to: ls -l /etc/init.d/webgui | 21:48 |
@scrottie | danny_mk, did you see my email? sizes don't match, still. sorry. rsync again? it should resume where it left off. I emailed the rsync command again | 21:48 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: ok, I will take a look at it | 21:49 |
doc_gt7 | returns: /etc/init.d/webgui | 21:49 |
+danny_mk | I am sure it is service webgui restartweb | 21:50 |
+danny_mk | but just for kicks | 21:50 |
+danny_mk | do: more /etc/init.d/webgui | 21:50 |
+danny_mk | that should show you all the options available | 21:51 |
@scrottie | /usr/local/bin/httpd -f /usr/local/conf/httpd.conf -E /tmp/error_log -k graceful | 21:51 |
+danny_mk | scrottie: were did you send the email? I must have missed it | 21:51 |
@scrottie | doc_gt7, that's what I do. will require changes for your system. eg, -f /data/wre/conf/modperl.conf (I think it is) | 21:51 |
doc_gt7 | Will test that. Thanks :) | 21:52 |
doc_gt7 | Works great -> "/data/wre/prereqs/bin/httpd -f /data/wre/etc/httpd.conf -E /tmp/error_log -k graceful" | 22:00 |
@scrottie | if stuff gets mucked up badly enough, you will have to do a full restart | 22:01 |
doc_gt7 | Once apon a time I knew how to pass a variable from one page to another like: ?section=this&that=2 Now I cannot find how I "reuqested" the var. Sorry, a bit rusty here :) | 22:02 |
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+danny_mk | that looks right, are you talking about reading the values in a macro? | 22:12 |
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doc_gt7 | yea. I have a macro that calls for next results. It tracks the page by "page=2" "page=3" ect.. I think it may use ^FormParam(page); but at the moment does not seem to be working. | 22:14 |
+danny_mk | ^FormParam(this); ^FormParam(that); | 22:15 |
+danny_mk | is FormParam enabled? | 22:15 |
doc_gt7 | yea, I have it enabled. Seems to always return "2" :) Probably something I am overlooking. Just wanted to check that I was using the correct syntax there. | 22:17 |
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+perlDreamer | doc_gt7: wreservice.pl --restart modperl | 00:14 |
+perlDreamer | or this: /data/wre/prereqs/bin/apachectl -f /data/wre/etc/modperl.conf -D WRE-modperl -E /data/wre/var/logs/modperl.error.log -k graceful | 00:14 |
+perlDreamer | which is that scrottie said, but with WRE binaries and configs | 00:14 |
doc_gt7 | Excellent. Thank you. It takes a minute to restart, but if you do it 100 times it adds up :) | 00:15 |
+perlDreamer | indeed, which is also a great reason for getting a faster dev box! | 00:15 |
doc_gt7 | Playing on a sandbox... and it is not bad. Dual xeon, 2 gig of ram yada yada. But I am rusty and make a lot of mistakes. which makes me reload constantly. | 00:18 |
+perlDreamer | you ever think of doing your testing via a command-line test? | 00:18 |
+perlDreamer | like t/Macro/a_account.t ? | 00:18 |
doc_gt7 | Example? | 00:18 |
doc_gt7 | I have been using eclipse -> open ssh . save and reload webgui. | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | hm this would be close to that | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | however, you would write the macro | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | write a test | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | ship them up to your site | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | then run the test | 00:19 |
+perlDreamer | export WEBGUI_CONFIG=/data/WebGUI/etc/mywebgui.conf perl t/Macro/doc_macro.t | 00:20 |
+perlDreamer | that runs the test, and tells you if each part of it passes | 00:20 |
doc_gt7 | Hrrm, nice. I will see if I can make that happen, would help me a lot. | 00:20 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rb1df3ad / t/Asset/Wobject/Survey/package.t : Fix a flaky test. - http://git.io/6YM4Ew | 00:37 |
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+perlDreamer | Interesting read on the O'Reilly Answers site: http://answers.oreilly.com/topic/3101-how-to-remove-black-magic-evil-spirits-attack/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+OreillyAnswers+%28O%27Reilly+Answers%29 | 01:12 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r9ba3022 / (31 files in 16 dirs): Preparing for 7.10.24 release. - http://git.io/B_8IcA | 06:56 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3c8ee71 / (4 files in 4 dirs): Ready for 7.10.25 development. - http://git.io/fY1EuQ | 07:28 |
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pskept | when editing a collaboration system, under the display tab, the sort by option: several user definied sort by methods are listed. how do i access and modify these? i cannot find anything about this via searching the webgui site. i would like to make a random sort by order. | 18:30 |
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sbaur | Collabs have 4 userdefined fields built into them. In order to get any data into them, you have to add the fields into your Post Form template. Once they have data, you can sort on them like any other field | 19:14 |
pskept | in that case it seems as though i need to look in a different direction to accomplish what i'd like. thanks. | 19:15 |
sbaur | I'm not quite sure what you mean by random sort by order, but you might want to ask again when perlDreamer is around | 19:16 |
pskept | i simply want to display several items at once from a larger list of items in no particular order. | 19:18 |
pskept | RandomAssetProxy does not seem appropriate as it only displays 1 asset at a time. | 19:19 |
* scrottie & | 19:19 | |
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+perlDreamer | morning folks | 19:29 |
sbaur | morning | 19:29 |
pskept | perlDreamer: hi, i was asking questions about the sorting options of the collaboration system. i was to sort in a random order. i was told you may be able to help. do you have any ideas? | 19:34 |
pskept | *want to sort in a random order | 19:34 |
+perlDreamer | The Collaboration System only sorts in deterministic order | 19:35 |
+perlDreamer | by title, last reply, date created and so on | 19:35 |
+perlDreamer | for sorting in random order, you'd have to patch the Collaboration System (CS) to do that | 19:35 |
pskept | i see. thanks. | 19:35 |
+perlDreamer | and it would not be an easy patch | 19:35 |
+perlDreamer | Now, with different templating options, like Template::Toolkit, you could probably simulate that | 19:36 |
+perlDreamer | where the threads or posts on each page could be randomly sorted | 19:37 |
+perlDreamer | but for overall random sorting, you'd be stuck with altering the Asset itself | 19:37 |
pskept | i simply want to display several items at once from a larger list of items in no particular order. is there any appropriate asset for this? | 19:39 |
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+perlDreamer | it depends, what kind of items are we talking about? | 19:40 |
pskept | items containing text and possibly html | 19:41 |
+perlDreamer | and you really need randomness, or just no particular order? | 19:42 |
pskept | no particular order | 19:42 |
+perlDreamer | so, would the order in which they were added work? | 19:43 |
pskept | no, i apologize, i am not being clear here. i was arguing the definition of random in my head and since we all no there will be no true randomness here i will clarify with: no particular order but a different order each time its viewed. | 19:44 |
pskept | *know | 19:44 |
+perlDreamer | okay, well, let's keep plumbing WebGUI's depths | 19:45 |
+perlDreamer | how many items do you want to display at a time? | 19:45 |
pskept | 7 | 19:46 |
pskept | i am implementing a design by someone else. it has 7. | 19:46 |
pskept | i have looked at the collaboration system, story manager, randomassetproxy. still looking... | 19:47 |
+perlDreamer | I don't think there is any asset in WebGUI that will do this. Your best bet is to try making a custom macro similar to the RandomAssetProxy that will display more than one asset at a time. | 19:48 |
+perlDreamer | you could try using 7 RandomAssetProxy macros, but it's likely that there will be duplicates | 19:48 |
pskept | that is exactly what i figured. | 19:48 |
pskept | ok i will look into the custom macro. | 19:48 |
+perlDreamer | do you run your own server? | 19:48 |
pskept | yes | 19:49 |
pskept | (the sysadmin i work with does) | 19:49 |
+perlDreamer | that's good, because most of the WebGUI hosters that I know don't allow custom code in shared servers | 19:52 |
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pskept | where can i find documentation on writing a custom macro? i am having little luck with the site search and it doesn't appear to be mentioned in any of the three webgui books that we have. | 19:59 |
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sbaur | I'm not a programmer. But, even I've put together a simple custom macro. I started by copying RandomAssetProxy and then modifying it to suit my needs. When I thought I had something that might work, I fired up a test environment, added my macro's name into the conf file, added a copy of my macro into the appropriate place in our custom code directory which is listed in ..WebGUI/sbin/preload.custom and restarting my test instance of webgui | 20:07 |
sbaur | after much debugging I was ready to put it into production... | 20:07 |
+perlDreamer | the Developer's guide was released as a wiki page, the macro writing section is here: http://www.webgui.org/user-guides/developers-guide/developers-guide-wiki/writing-macros-for-webgui | 20:09 |
+perlDreamer | the community wiki would also be a good place to look | 20:09 |
pskept | thanks. | 20:58 |
+perlDreamer | Feel free to ask questions here in channel too | 21:05 |
+perlDreamer | most everyone is a programmer | 21:05 |
+perlDreamer | except for perlbot | 21:05 |
pskept | awesome. i intend to hang out and ask or contribute. reading the writing macros section now. | 21:06 |
+perlDreamer | so what do you use WebGUI for? Business site, university, organization? | 21:08 |
pskept | county government website | 21:12 |
pskept | hopefully other things in the future. the intranet possibilities seem really awesome. | 21:13 |
+perlDreamer | WebGUI is particularly good at intranets, with the selection of Assets and hierarchial group permissions | 21:16 |
+danny_mk | It is also good for user/group management as a SSO front end to applications built with other frameworks like Catalyst/Dancer/JSF/Grails | 21:37 |
pskept | we will need just that. | 21:38 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r3b418ed / (149 files in 78 dirs): Merge commit 'v7.10.24' into WebGUI8 (+5 more commits...) - http://git.io/kfI7KQ | 01:04 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r3c85c21 / (76 files in 2 dirs): Update the upgrade directory. - http://git.io/mkfG6A | 05:10 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r1ab73e2 / t/Asset/Template.t : Have to use Test::More to get its functions... - http://git.io/yd0WEQ | 05:10 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * ra6e1adf / (3 files in 3 dirs): Fixes to Survey tests and merged code from 7.10 - http://git.io/B-scMg | 05:10 |
+perlDreamer | getting closer... | 05:30 |
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@scrottie | DELIKAT!!!! | 16:58 |
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+perlDreamer | morning folks | 18:12 |
haarg | morning | 18:12 |
+perlDreamer | haarg, what would you think of an asset deleting plugin for wgd? | 18:18 |
+perlDreamer | It kind of reminds me of handing machetes and machine guns to young children | 18:18 |
+perlDreamer | but I had a case yesterday (and am still working on that site) where command line deleting would be a help | 18:19 |
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+perlDreamer | Since I'm close to a release of 8.0.0, I'm closing the WebGUI8 branch of the git repo | 18:52 |
+perlDreamer | making feature releases at this point would require me to rerun some upgrade tests, which take about 8 hours | 18:53 |
+perlDreamer | I made a post with more details on the developer's forum | 18:53 |
haarg | perlDreamer, i'd be fine with a command to delete assets | 18:56 |
haarg | kind of surprised it hasn't come up before | 18:56 |
+perlDreamer | now all I need is a clean branch of wgd to built it in... | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | and time to do it | 19:06 |
+perlDreamer | after I come back from the gym | 19:10 |
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+perlDreamer | haarg: the new wgd doesn't bundle Try::Tiny | 21:09 |
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+perlDreamer | maybe it shouldn't | 21:10 |
+perlDreamer | but older WebGUI's don't use that | 21:10 |
+perlDreamer | also, I sent a pull request for wgd trash | 21:11 |
haarg | hrm | 21:11 |
haarg | i wonder how that happened | 21:11 |
+perlDreamer | it's in the dist.ini file | 21:15 |
+perlDreamer | and other modules are in there | 21:15 |
+perlDreamer | like version | 21:15 |
+perlDreamer | seems to be local to me | 21:16 |
+perlDreamer | since the one on your site has it in it | 21:16 |
haarg | you might try reinstalling Try::Tiny | 21:17 |
haarg | maybe it can't find the packfile for some reason | 21:18 |
+perlDreamer | it's Ubuntu's module management | 21:20 |
+perlDreamer | i just upgraded to 11.04 | 21:20 |
haarg | ah | 21:22 |
haarg | yeah, i never really thought about distro managed modules | 21:22 |
haarg | especially since that doesn't exist on mac | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | the odd thing is that using Try::Tiny works fine | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | but Fatpacking it didn't | 21:23 |
+perlDreamer | I'm reinstalling Dist::Zilla, too | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | and that should fix it | 21:24 |
+perlDreamer | or so I thought... | 21:25 |
+perlDreamer | parent didn't get installed eithe | 21:27 |
+perlDreamer | either | 21:27 |
pskept | how can i display the contents of a collaboration system in two different ways? one would be a small list with its own style template and the other would be the full list with its own style template. | 21:28 |
+perlDreamer | pskept, use a shortcut asset and override the template that the shortcut uses | 21:28 |
+perlDreamer | that only works for the view method though | 21:28 |
haarg | perlDreamer, i'm guessing that the ubuntu packages don't include packfiles | 21:28 |
pskept | ok. i'll take a look at the shortcut asset. thank you! | 21:28 |
+perlDreamer | when I reinstalled Try::Tiny, it did the same thing | 21:28 |
+perlDreamer | but maybe I have multiple Try::Tiny's now | 21:29 |
+perlDreamer | nope | 21:35 |
haarg | when you say you reinstalled Try::Tiny, how are you installing it? | 21:38 |
+perlDreamer | cpanm Try::Tiny | 21:59 |
haarg | where is it installing to? | 21:59 |
+perlDreamer | /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Try/Tiny.pm | 22:04 |
+perlDreamer | and I've got 3 of them installed | 22:04 |
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+perlDreamer | /usr/share/perl5 | 22:04 |
+perlDreamer | and /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.{0,1} | 22:05 |
+perlDreamer | perldoc -l perfers the /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 | 22:05 |
haarg | is there a packfile in /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/$archdir/auto/Try/Tiny/.packlist ? | 22:07 |
haarg | not sure what $archdir is for you | 22:07 |
haarg | perl -V:archname | 22:12 |
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+perlDreamer | auto directory at all | 22:43 |
+perlDreamer | just a .meta directory | 22:43 |
+perlDreamer | /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi/.meta | 22:43 |
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haarg | hmm | 22:44 |
haarg | can you try using local::lib? cpanm local::lib; eval `perl -Mlocal::lib` | 22:45 |
haarg | then cpanm Try::Tiny, and see if it creates a packfile in ~/perl5/lib/... | 22:46 |
+perlDreamer | eval `perl -Mlocal::lib` didn't seem to do anything useful | 22:48 |
haarg | as in no output or something else>? | 22:48 |
haarg | it shouldn't necessarily output anything | 22:49 |
haarg | you can see what it did with echo $PERL_MM_OPT | 22:50 |
haarg | among other things | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | that created a packfile in the perl5 directory | 22:56 |
+perlDreamer | maybe this is broken: DEBPKG:debian/instmodsh_doc - Debian policy doesn't install .packlist files for core or vendor. | 22:59 |
haarg | yeah | 22:59 |
haarg | i'm not sure if it could be considered broken, but fatpacker does need the packlist files to work properly | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | it's odd that only those two modules (Try::Tiny and parent) didn't work though | 23:01 |
+perlDreamer | since all the other installed modules did | 23:01 |
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+perlDreamer | worst case it just means that I can't make wgdev releases | 23:02 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r46152ed / lib/WebGUI/Asset/Event.pm : POD for an Asset::Event method. - http://git.io/U_lH5A | 23:17 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r475b73f / t/POD.t : Cleaner method for finding module names from package paths. - http://git.io/DePFrA | 23:17 |
pskept | any of you guys use dwm or another tiling/dynamic wm? | 23:19 |
pskept | i am trying to make my webgui html source editor windows in firefox float. | 23:20 |
+perlDreamer | sorry, I've never done anything like that | 23:21 |
+perlDreamer | most of my work is down inside WebGUI's API | 23:21 |
pskept | no big deal. seems like there are some linux users in here so i thought i'd ask. | 23:21 |
pskept | i see. the stuff discussed in the developers guide? | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | yes | 23:22 |
pskept | the included perl modules, etc? | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | right, the WebGUI, Spectre and Plack modules | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | plus the tests | 23:22 |
+perlDreamer | apache configs | 23:22 |
pskept | cool. | 23:22 |
haarg | perlDreamer, you could probably run eval `perl -Mlocal::lib`; dzil listdeps | cpanm -L ~/perl5; dzil build | 23:23 |
haarg | would force all the prereqs to get built into ~/perl5 so they could be packaged | 23:24 |
haarg | or eval `perl -Mlocal::lib=extlib`; dzil listdeps | cpanm -L extlib; dzil build | 23:25 |
haarg | to use a different directory | 23:25 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r7406c02 / (5 files in 5 dirs): Add a bunch of missing POD while the gears spin. - http://git.io/-EImmQ | 23:39 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * re97d84f / t/POD.t : Better methods for finding module names from package names for t/POD.t - http://git.io/iPp36Q | 23:40 |
+perlDreamer | yes, that did it | 23:40 |
+perlDreamer | interesting data point | 23:59 |
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+perlDreamer | for a site with 5500 assets, it takes almost an hour to export every asset as HTML | 00:00 |
+perlDreamer | given that we break the cache for every asset, that's not too shabby | 00:00 |
haarg | perlDreamer, re wgdev trash | 00:22 |
haarg | will restore actually work? | 00:22 |
haarg | seems like it would fail to find assets because they are in the trash | 00:22 |
haarg | and at some point it would probably be worth adding something to list stuff in the trash | 00:23 |
+perlDreamer | it really works haarg | 00:37 |
+perlDreamer | and adding --list would be fairly simple, too | 00:37 |
+perlDreamer | do you want me to add that now? | 00:38 |
haarg | only if you want to | 00:38 |
+perlDreamer | I have this long running script (50 minutes) that I have to babysit | 00:38 |
+perlDreamer | turns out that exporting large sites to HTML takes a very long time | 00:40 |
+perlDreamer | and it's not a process that can be restarted where you left off | 00:40 |
+perlDreamer | haarg, one trash lister | 01:13 |
+perlDreamer | according to github, the same pull request will get you both | 01:14 |
haarg | cool | 01:15 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r3ef66c7 / sbin/findBrokenAssets.pl : Add broken shortcut detection to findBrokenAssets - http://git.io/xagDFA | 06:22 |
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mindspin | Hi after installnig wre on debian Modperl and mysql wont start. testEnvironment says that apache2::Request is missing. I cannot get it installed properly . | 13:08 |
mindspin | any hint? | 13:08 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc35b2e5 / sbin/findBrokenAssets.pl : findBrokenAssets: Don't delete Shortcuts if they were requested to be fixed. Also handle File assets that have lost their files. - http://git.io/XlcRqQ | 18:43 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * rc35b2e5 / sbin/findBrokenAssets.pl : findBrokenAssets: Don't delete Shortcuts if they were requested to be fixed. Also handle File assets that have lost their files. - http://git.io/XlcRqQ | 21:18 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r4ea362b / (6 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'master' into WebGUI8. - http://git.io/22ZHJg | 21:18 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie WebGUI8 * r3ef66c7 / sbin/findBrokenAssets.pl : Add broken shortcut detection to findBrokenAssets - http://git.io/xagDFA | 21:18 |
* perlDreamer prepares for massive commit messaging... | 21:31 | |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r4ea362b / (6 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'master' into WebGUI8. - http://git.io/22ZHJg | 21:31 |
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pskept | could changing the rank of my custom folders in the import node have any negative affects? | 21:48 |
haarg | all it effects is order | 21:49 |
pskept | just making sure. thanks. | 21:50 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r3a3227c / etc/WebGUI.conf.original : Fix a typo in the documentation for the list of assets in the Admin Console. Thanks to ckotil for pointing it out. - http://git.io/Qmt1Kg | 00:37 |
CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * rc253db8 / etc/WebGUI.conf.original : Fix a typo in the documentation for the list of assets in the Admin Console. Thanks to ckotil for pointing it out. - http://git.io/JcwDzw | 00:38 |
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CIA-77 | wgdev: Colin Kuskie master * r4ae4877 / lib/WGDev/Command/Trash.pm : Add a new plugin for trashing, restoring and purging assets. - http://git.io/lzXRPA | 02:40 |
CIA-77 | wgdev: Colin Kuskie master * rbe3d058 / lib/WGDev/Command/Trash.pm : Add a command to list assets in the trash. - http://git.io/2WA8Aw | 02:40 |
CIA-77 | wgdev: Graham Knop master * rd5d60eb / lib/WGDev/Command/Trash.pm : Merge remote-tracking branch 'perlDreamer/trash' - http://git.io/ZDItfQ | 02:40 |
CIA-77 | wgdev: Graham Knop master * r66ecfd9 / Changes : updating changelog - http://git.io/CvcF8A | 02:40 |
CIA-77 | wgdev: Graham Knop master * r8fad376 / Changes : | 02:40 |
CIA-77 | wgdev: v0.1201200 | 02:40 |
CIA-77 | wgdev: - New command trash allows trashing, purging, and restoring assets, as well as listing trashed items - http://git.io/m0nepg | 02:40 |
haarg | perlDreamer, i can't really test everything with webgui/wgdev right now, so i'd appreciate if you could test that | 02:42 |
+perlDreamer | I can try that, in a while | 03:40 |
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@scrottie | DELIKAT!!! | 06:08 |
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+MrHairgrease | howdy howdy | 15:35 |
+MrHairgrease | anyone knows how to turn on the admin interface in wg8? | 15:35 |
+BartJol | not me, as you already discovered | 15:47 |
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@daviddelikat | scrottie? | 16:12 |
pskept | morning all. i am having trouble formatting the date template variable in a syndicated content template. the dates appear like this: 1327069920, 1327067400. i looked in another templete and saw dateSubmitted.human but adding the .human made it not show up. what i am doing wrong? i have been and currently am searching the site and documentation. | 16:45 |
+MrHairgrease | pskept, you can use the ^D macro for formatting dates. See http://www.webgui.org/design/wiki/date-macro | 16:47 |
+MrHairgrease | In your case you could put something like ^D("%z %Z", <tmpl_var dateSubmitted>); in your template | 16:48 |
pskept | excellent. thank you. | 16:48 |
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mindspin | hi webgui won't start here apche eror.log gives me some perl errors and a symbol lookup error. any idea how to solve this issue? | 18:36 |
@scrottie | mindspin, did you do the wre install or a source install? | 18:51 |
@scrottie | DELIKAT!!! | 18:51 |
@scrottie | MrHairgrease, did you run upgrades and see a bunch of upgrades run? | 18:52 |
+MrHairgrease | scrottie, yeah I figured that out already. After the upgrade everything run fine | 18:52 |
@scrottie | usually the first thing people notice when wG8 isn't working correctly (besides the layouts being broken) is the admin not turning on. | 18:52 |
mindspin | scrottie: I used the debian packages | 18:52 |
@scrottie | ahh, good. | 18:52 |
+MrHairgrease | That's what you get for not hacking on webgui for so long =) | 18:53 |
@scrottie | mindspin, I'm the least familiar with those. I understand that some docs come with it. if memory serves, they go into /usr/share/doc. | 18:53 |
mindspin | I#ve reead it up and down | 18:53 |
@scrottie | mindspin, alright, post the errors that you're getting into a gist.github.com and paste the URL of that into here? | 18:54 |
+MrHairgrease | mindspin: I don't use these packages either, but if you get symbol errors, it looks like either your modperl, or another compiled perl module is borked somehow | 18:54 |
mindspin | http://pastebin.com/eVeyzKuQ | 18:56 |
mindspin | I#m not sure wther the error is on my site and i miss some rights and files | 18:57 |
@scrottie | "/usr/sbin/apache2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt14error_categoryD2Ev, version GLIBCXX_3.4.15" ... well, that's not good. | 18:58 |
@scrottie | mindspin, what happens when you do "apt-get install apache2" ? | 18:59 |
@scrottie | ie, is there a newer Apache that Debian will install for you? | 18:59 |
mindspin | maybe, I had to do a lot of apt-pinning | 19:00 |
mindspin | Ill have a look which version it is | 19:00 |
@scrottie | as it is, it seems like your Apache package is out of sync with your libc. it also seems like Linux completely screwed the pooch with regards to library major/minor versioning which is the foundation of shared libraries in Unix. | 19:01 |
mindspin | I could upgrade to the sid version | 19:02 |
@scrottie | ignoring bugs and security flaws, *any* library of a given name and same major version is supposed to work, but at some point, it became common practise to break the API in minor versions. | 19:02 |
@scrottie | mindspin, do you get the same error when you try to start apache by itself, without trying to start WebGUI? if so, you might talk to #debian. I don't want to suggest something that winds up making the situation worse. | 19:02 |
mindspin | hehe I'll have a try | 19:03 |
@scrottie | mindspin, another option is to try WebGUI8 which is Plack based and doesn't use Apache/mod_perl. mod_perl is a creaking dinosaur. | 19:03 |
@scrottie | there isn't a Debian package for it yet but install/setup is a lot easier than the source install for wG7. | 19:04 |
mindspin | Is WebGUI 8 Production ready? | 19:08 |
mindspin | and running on debian? | 19:08 |
mindspin | Iam still running 5.8 | 19:08 |
mindspin | an now its time to switch | 19:08 |
mindspin | or leave webgui | 19:08 |
sbaur | WG8 is not production ready, it's about to be released as a beta | 19:09 |
mindspin | so Ill have to stick to 7 | 19:09 |
mindspin | apahe doesnt start so it is maybe not webgui related | 19:10 |
@scrottie | wG8 runs on Debian ;) | 19:14 |
@scrottie | okay, 5.8 is going to be a problem | 19:14 |
@scrottie | mindspin, I recommend upgrading. but if you don't want to, you can do the WRE install method. the WRE bundles its own Apache, MySQL, perl, and everything else you need. | 19:15 |
@scrottie | then wG7 uses all of that instead of system versions of things. | 19:15 |
mindspin | I didn't get it to run | 19:16 |
@scrottie | you didn't get the WRE to run? | 19:16 |
mindspin | neither mysql nor apachemodperl started | 19:16 |
mindspin | but if apache2 is the culprit, wre isn#t to blame | 19:16 |
@scrottie | you didn't get mysql or httpd in the WRE to run? or your system ones? | 19:17 |
@scrottie | actually, you're running 64 bit. you can run the WRE, but building XS Perl modules would prove difficult. I don't recommend the WRE in this case. | 19:17 |
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@scrottie | perl 5.15.7 is available for testing! | 19:19 |
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mindspin | hi, after fighting for four days, Igot webgui now running. But I see no rich-text editor when openineg or creating an article. What do I miss? | 01:54 |
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@scrottie | hrm. | 02:02 |
@scrottie | what do you see? | 02:03 |
@scrottie | and which WebGUI are you running? which version? | 02:03 |
mindspin | there is nothing | 02:06 |
mindspin | its 7.9.33 | 02:07 |
mindspin | its the ubuntu package now | 02:07 |
mindspin | on32 bit server version | 02:07 |
mindspin | 64 bit created much hassle | 02:08 |
mindspin | when I go to assets search itshows even nothing | 02:09 |
mindspin | stop | 02:09 |
mindspin | now it shows me 3 editors | 02:09 |
mindspin | today I checked out for five hours to get cpan runing because there has to be changed a setting in a config-file | 02:11 |
mindspin | it was my last shot and it solved the installation | 02:11 |
@scrottie | which setting had to be changed? | 02:13 |
@scrottie | I'd love to make wG8 install much, much more smoothly than 7 | 02:13 |
mindspin | let me rethink | 02:14 |
@scrottie | screenshots of any screens that don't look right? | 02:14 |
mindspin | btw there is still no editor shown in article view | 02:14 |
@scrottie | installing all of the modules is very difficult | 02:14 |
@scrottie | anything in /data/wre/var/logs/webgui.log? | 02:14 |
mindspin | mom | 02:14 |
@scrottie | paste the last few screens of that file? | 02:14 |
mindspin | RROR - webgui.conf - WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::SyndicatedContent::generateFeed[177] - Syndicated Content asset (fK-HMSboA3uu0c1KYkYspA) has a bad feed URL (http://www.plainblack.com/news/news?func=viewRSS). Failed with Invalid feed format: html at /usr/share/webgui/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/SyndicatedContent.pm line 173 | 02:15 |
@scrottie | er, don't paste them into here | 02:16 |
@scrottie | paste them into gist.github.com or a service like that | 02:16 |
mindspin | three lines | 02:16 |
mindspin | ;-) | 02:16 |
@scrottie | anything in /data/wre/var/logs/modperl.error.log ? | 02:16 |
mindspin | there is something mentioned about mce not found in apache2 error.log | 02:18 |
@scrottie | lack of a tinymce would keep the rich editor from working. | 02:18 |
@scrottie | I wonder if you set paths correctly in your config file. | 02:19 |
@scrottie | I have a line like this: "extrasPath" : "/data/WebGUI/www/extras", | 02:19 |
@scrottie | in /data/WebGUI/etc/<my site>.conf | 02:19 |
@scrottie | what does yours say? | 02:19 |
mindspin | usr/share/webgui/extras/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/langs/de.js | 02:19 |
mindspin | I have no data | 02:20 |
@scrottie | okay, whereever your config file is. | 02:20 |
@scrottie | what does it say for "extrasPath"? | 02:20 |
mindspin | http://pastebin.com/PwrNCqde | 02:22 |
mindspin | usr/share/webgui/extras | 02:22 |
@scrottie | if you ls that directory, what do you see? is there AttachmentsControl, addHTTP.js, editarea, htlp.css and about 30 other files? | 02:24 |
mindspin | editarea and htlp.ss is missing | 02:27 |
mindspin | and its about 50 files ;_ | 02:27 |
mindspin | ;-) | 02:27 |
mindspin | tinymce and tinymce-webgui is there | 02:28 |
@scrottie | are the directories readable by the user you're running httpd as? | 02:32 |
mindspin | good question | 02:32 |
@scrottie | you might also check modproxy.error.log | 02:33 |
@scrottie | that should have errors related to serving static files | 02:33 |
mindspin | thea are all owned by root | 02:34 |
mindspin | its 755 what should be enough | 02:37 |
@scrottie | yeah. | 02:37 |
@scrottie | anything in modproxy.error.log? | 02:37 |
mindspin | there's no modproxy.error.log on my machine | 02:38 |
@scrottie | oh, you aren't running the wre. but you do have a modperl.error.log? | 02:42 |
mindspin | no | 02:43 |
@scrottie | okay. in the httpd.conf that you do have... | 02:44 |
@scrottie | well, let me paste | 02:44 |
@scrottie | http://pastebin.com/j95YDMhj | 02:44 |
mindspin | apache2 error.log says that something is wrong with Apache::SizeLimit, and zthat some tinymce-stuff is missing | 02:44 |
@scrottie | can you paste that into pastebin? | 02:45 |
@scrottie | Apache::SizeLimit I'm not surprised about. | 02:45 |
@scrottie | in my httpd.conf, in the VirtualHost section for WebGUI (as I pasted in pastebin), I have a like this: DocumentRoot /data/domains/dev.localhost.localdomain/public | 02:45 |
@scrottie | I'm not using the wre either, for my dev machine. | 02:45 |
@scrottie | inside /data/domains/dev.localhost.localdomain/public is extras and public | 02:46 |
mindspin | that is what worries me I miss those files. noe www, no public, but the site is there | 02:46 |
@scrottie | that way, when people request /extras/editarea/edit_area/edit_area.js, for example, Apache knows where to find it | 02:46 |
@scrottie | you set up the httpd.conf yourself, right? | 02:47 |
@scrottie | using the source install instructions? | 02:47 |
@scrottie | there are instructions for setting up "public" and "uploads" and "extras" | 02:47 |
@scrottie | you may need to double check those. | 02:47 |
mindspin | I just symlinked apache.config to conf.d | 02:47 |
@scrottie | you need to copy the starting uploads stuff out of your copy of WebGUI into your web dir and other things. | 02:48 |
@scrottie | http://www.webgui.org/wiki/source-install, under "webgui files" | 02:49 |
@scrottie | but you need to use the correct paths if you did something other than /data | 02:49 |
mindspin | I#ve read them up and don last week | 02:50 |
mindspin | but I gues you are right | 02:50 |
mindspin | Ill have to pick some from here and some from there | 02:50 |
mindspin | thats not nice | 02:50 |
mindspin | I would have liked if the wre install hadt worjed | 02:51 |
mindspin | k | 02:51 |
mindspin | my first impression of webgui 7 is positive | 02:51 |
mindspin | lot of things look familiar to a 5.8 user | 02:52 |
mindspin | its time to sleep here in gemany | 02:52 |
mindspin | thanks for your assistance | 02:52 |
@scrottie | goodluck! and don't be afraid to come ask more questions | 02:53 |
@scrottie | we can keep trying here too. | 02:53 |
@scrottie | wre install is a lot easier than source install. | 02:53 |
@scrottie | but still too involved. | 02:53 |
mindspin | the first partition of the disk can be erased .. ;-) | 02:53 |
mindspin | good night | 02:54 |
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+danny_mk | scrottie: you around? | 04:50 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie master * r35f1492 / share/site.psgi : No need to serve dictionaries anymore. - http://git.io/TrEz_w | 18:47 |
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+danny_mk | Why is the "active sessions ?op=viewActiveSessions" showing expired sessions? (WebGUI v7.10.23) | 19:34 |
+danny_mk | darnit, spectre is not running. This should solve the issue. | 19:41 |
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ckotil | https://github.com/joho/7XX-rfc | 22:42 |
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mindspin | can anybody tell me where DocumentRoot is in webgui for ubuntu-server? | 22:49 |
mindspin | I also have these errors in webgui.log: http://pastebin.com/UgKQ6bpm | 22:50 |
sbaur | the problem with the sql statement is that there's nothing in the where clause. I can't imagine why it would just through "where () " in there. But I can't figure out what asset might be generating that bad sql. | 22:59 |
sbaur | find your site's modproxy file. the document root should be listed in it | 22:59 |
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mindspin | cant find mod_proxy file nor modproxy | 00:19 |
sbaur | then the httpd.conf file that has your site's VirtualHost directive in it | 00:29 |
mindspin | I just linked apache.config to apache config.d | 00:41 |
mindspin | and there's only WebguiRoot /usr/share/webgui | 00:44 |
mindspin | my main problem is, that there is no richtexteditor shown on articles | 00:48 |
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+perlDreamer | haarg: wgd trash is working great in the main wgdev branch | 03:27 |
haarg | cool | 03:27 |
+perlDreamer | I tried trash, --list, --restore, --purge and all is well | 03:27 |
+perlDreamer | I think the next thing I'll try is some of the other, older code that's waiting for me to implement your suggestions | 03:27 |
+perlDreamer | like page-speed | 03:27 |
+perlDreamer | and the language work for dist | 03:28 |
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+perlDreamer | page-speed cache file ownership is fixed | 04:18 |
+perlDreamer | now, on to reporting errors | 04:19 |
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pskept | i want to modify a collaboration system link list template so that every other link and its details have alternating css attributes. my first thought is to declare my own boolean template variable to keep track of which css to add. is this possible? is there a more appropriate method? | 17:19 |
@scrottie | http://www.perl.com/pub/2007/02/ has an example of doing that with HTML::Template, but it looks terrible | 17:54 |
pskept | i'll take a look. i've been searching and searching and have not found an appropriate solution. | 17:55 |
@scrottie | I have not been able to find anything since Google made all of the search words optional and started ignoring +'s in front of things | 17:55 |
pskept | i switched to ddg awhile ago. but i wouldn't suggest doing the same as there was little gained regarding the quality of searches. | 17:56 |
pskept | actually no gain at all. | 17:56 |
@scrottie | afk | 17:57 |
haarg | the + thing is rather annoying. it was a lot more convenient to type than quoting things, and it's so often needed to force it to actually search for what you type in | 17:57 |
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@scrottie | you could use frodwith's utility to convert the template to Template::Toolkit | 18:10 |
sbaur | I've had lots of success with that utility | 18:10 |
sbaur | http://www.webgui.org/ht_to_tt | 18:11 |
ckotil | woah! does it handle h:t:e also? | 18:17 |
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@scrottie | then you should be able to do something like [% FOREACH item IN bag_of_stuff %] [% IF loop.index % 2 %] one style [% ELSE %] other style [% END %] [% END %] | 18:18 |
@scrottie | dunno! | 18:19 |
@scrottie | but don't quote me on that | 18:19 |
* ckotil tries | 18:19 | |
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ckotil | this tool leaves out macros. | 18:24 |
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ckotil | useful none the less | 18:28 |
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+perlDreamer | morning folks | 18:29 |
@scrottie | heya perlDreamer. | 18:29 |
haarg | probably the asset used on that page doesn't bypass macro parsing | 18:29 |
haarg | the underlying converter doesn't do that | 18:29 |
haarg | i don't know where the code for what's used on that page is though | 18:30 |
haarg | oh, found it | 18:31 |
haarg | http://gist.github.com/1671031 | 18:41 |
+perlDreamer | haarg: is there a problem with the HT/TT translator? | 18:51 |
haarg | evaluates macros | 18:51 |
+perlDreamer | hm | 18:52 |
+perlDreamer | haarg, if you send frodwith a pull request I'm sure he'd merge it in pretty quickly | 18:57 |
+perlDreamer | I can hot patch us in the meantime | 18:57 |
+perlDreamer | or I can do it, since I forked his repo a while ago for some WebGUI 8 experiments | 19:06 |
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pskept | is there a macro that will trim text or give substrings? i looked through the list in the help and nothing stood out to me. | 21:19 |
+perlDreamer | there is not | 21:20 |
pskept | cool thanks | 21:20 |
sbaur | you might be able to do it with the SQL macro and use mysql's built in functions | 21:20 |
pskept | i don't want to go that far with it. | 21:21 |
pskept | yet | 21:21 |
sbaur | understood | 21:21 |
pskept | thanks though! | 21:21 |
+perlDreamer | it would be better to write a custom macro for that, if you run your own server | 21:21 |
sbaur | but selecting from the dual table is a way to do it without actually mucking in the db | 21:21 |
@scrottie | Template::Toolkit filters...? | 21:41 |
@scrottie | it's been a T::T kinda day | 21:41 |
pskept | where is the reference material for template toolkit, i've checked the help, user guides and searched. i found a video but i don't want to watch that. | 21:51 |
@scrottie | cpan.org | 21:54 |
pskept | i see | 21:55 |
@scrottie | http://search.cpan.org/~abw/Template-Toolkit-2.23/lib/Template/Manual.pod | 21:55 |
pskept | thanks. i was searching the webgui site. | 21:55 |
@scrottie | http://search.cpan.org/~abw/Template-Toolkit-2.23/lib/Template/Manual/Filters.pod in particular | 21:55 |
@scrottie | setting up T::T in WebGUI if it isn't already is another (fairly simple) matter | 21:56 |
pskept | "How To Enable Other Template Engines" ? | 21:56 |
@scrottie | sounds like that would be it | 21:56 |
pskept | mpc pause | 21:59 |
pskept | woops | 21:59 |
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+perlDreamer | scrottie++ for clutch knowledge | 23:30 |
+perlDreamer | we need to pick some weekend and then do a marathon conversion session and get HTML::Template out of WebGUI | 23:31 |
sbaur | sounds like a really good idea | 23:31 |
+perlDreamer | once I get 8.0 out, I think I can take on projects like that | 23:36 |
+perlDreamer | but I need time to get 8.0 out itself | 23:36 |
+perlDreamer | There are only 316 templates to convert | 23:36 |
sbaur | only | 23:39 |
+perlDreamer | and with frodwith's module, it should be fully automatable too | 23:42 |
+perlDreamer | come to think of it, between that and some syntax checking tests, this should be dirt simple to do | 23:43 |
+perlDreamer | what we can't do is take advantage of all the niceties of cleaning up the template syntax and reducing the data we send | 23:43 |
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+perlDreamer | ckotil: the HT to TT translator doesn't evaluate macros any longer | 23:50 |
ckotil | yeah, no bigyg | 23:54 |
+perlDreamer | oh sure, now you say that | 23:54 |
ckotil | heh. you did join the channel just after scrottie mentioned it | 23:55 |
* perlDreamer has ISP | 23:56 | |
+perlDreamer | IRC-sensory perception | 23:56 |
ckotil | and im on teh record saying 'still usefull none the less' even if it doesnt evaluate macros | 23:56 |
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sbaur | I'm test upgrading a site on a different box. I suspect I fat fingered a conf file. Anyone seen this modproxy.error message before? proxy: Max-Forwards has reached zero - proxy loop? returned by / | 00:43 |
sbaur | found it, had to comment out one of the default rewriteCond and RewriteRule pairs | 00:47 |
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dln | Hooray! My printer now works! Needed to install Ghostscript (which somehow is not a dependency of CUPS -- go figure) | 02:07 |
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+perlDreamer | whoa, there are people in here | 18:42 |
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@daviddelikat | anybody know if wreconsole.log location is configurable? | 20:50 |
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mindspin | Hi, I'm trying to get wre running on a fresh and updated ubuntu oneiric server 32 bit. wreconsole gives my an error. wre/prereqs is missing | 21:03 |
@daviddelikat | it is looking for /data/wre/prereqs | 21:15 |
mindspin | yupp but the folder does not exist | 21:25 |
mindspin | after unpacking wre its \/data/wrebuild/wre | 21:26 |
mindspin | there are no subfolders in wre | 21:27 |
mindspin | hehe, after rerunnig build.sh its there | 21:33 |
mindspin | but the subfolders are empty | 21:36 |
+perlDreamer | if the subfolders are empty, then it didn't build | 21:50 |
mindspin | where can I find error output? | 21:54 |
mindspin | now it builds, weird | 22:02 |
mindspin | but the error is in front of screen | 22:03 |
@scrottie | mindspin, are you building the wre from source or using the binary distro? | 22:34 |
@scrottie | what .tar.gz did you uncompress? | 22:35 |
mindspin | its the source | 22:38 |
mindspin | wre-0.9.3-source.tar.gz | 22:39 |
@scrottie | did you build it successfully and install? | 22:39 |
@scrottie | what point are you at? | 22:39 |
mindspin | its building | 22:39 |
@scrottie | after it builds and installs, then wreconsole.pl should run. | 22:40 |
mindspin | I hope so ;-) | 22:40 |
@scrottie | if it doesn't build, well, there's also the binary... | 22:41 |
mindspin | WRE ERROR: libgcrypt-1.4.4 make did not complete successfully. | 22:50 |
@scrottie | are you good at fixing C build problems? | 22:51 |
mindspin | nope | 22:54 |
mindspin | or maybe | 22:54 |
mindspin | if its only resolving dependencies by installing it could work | 22:55 |
mindspin | otherwise I'll try something different | 22:56 |
+perlDreamer | did you try downloading one of the WRE binaries precompiled for Ubuntu? | 22:56 |
mindspin | no, not yet because they are way outdated | 23:15 |
mindspin | would you recommend it? | 23:15 |
@scrottie | so are the source tarballs, no? | 23:15 |
@scrottie | it's the easy thing. the source install path that you were taking originally is good if you know how to configure Apache and so forth. | 23:16 |
@scrottie | but you seem to have gotten hung up on configuring Apache. | 23:16 |
@scrottie | imo, you should just run 8. | 23:16 |
mindspin | dunno, I tried debian packages, ubuntu packages, source instal and now I wanna have atry wit wre | 23:16 |
mindspin | not to mention on 6 and 32 bit system | 23:17 |
@scrottie | you still have to carefully follow the instructions even with the wre binary install. | 23:17 |
mindspin | 6 | 23:17 |
mindspin | i#m absolutely always on the path | 23:17 |
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+perlDreamer | the source in the WRE source is the same version as the compiled versions | 23:51 |
+perlDreamer | 8 isn't ready for people to use yet, scrottie | 23:51 |
+perlDreamer | mindspin: we use those same binaries all the time | 23:52 |
+perlDreamer | although we use the RedHat/CentOS ones | 23:53 |
mindspin | I'll try the binary | 23:59 |
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CIA-77 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rba70198 / wre/lib/WRE/WebguiDemo.pm : Rewrite to a plack app - http://git.io/cxhe2A | 23:37 |
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CIA-77 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r20e49b5 / (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Group.pm): Try to trap errors while loading classes. Fixes bug #12321. - http://git.io/vU_VXA | 02:04 |
sbaur | I was wondering, will wg8 be able to import packages created in older versions of webgui, e.g. 7.6.x? | 02:30 |
sbaur | You'd think I'd no better than to ask a question just moments before I sign out. g'night all | 02:33 |
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haarg | afternoon perlDreamer | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | hey haarg | 22:50 |
haarg | took a look at the demo thing | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | I hope it was entertaining :) | 22:50 |
haarg | a couple small things - looks like some moose syntax leaked in there | 22:50 |
haarg | and you need to call ->finalize on a Plack::Response when returning it from a psgi app | 22:51 |
+perlDreamer | right, that last part I knew | 22:51 |
+perlDreamer | kind of a bummer that it won't detect and do that for me | 22:51 |
haarg | aside from that, design wise | 22:51 |
haarg | i was initially thinking of some way to keep a hash of demo sites and the psgi apps for them | 22:52 |
haarg | the cleanup on that could be an issue though | 22:52 |
haarg | but re-initializing the app for every request is probably a bit much | 22:52 |
haarg | what might be workable | 22:54 |
haarg | is having a hash for constructed demo apps | 22:54 |
haarg | with a timeout attached in some way | 22:54 |
haarg | and for each request checking the timeout and removing other apps that have timed out | 22:55 |
haarg | could also check for config file existence, but that's kind of a lot of stat calls to do for every request | 22:55 |
haarg | the constructed psgi app won't use a ton of memory, but it still needs to get cleaned up somehow | 22:57 |
haarg | realistically, just relying on the memory limits might work | 22:57 |
haarg | also, before calling the app, you'll need to do some manipulation of PATH_INFO and SCRIPT_NAME | 22:59 |
haarg | similar to what Plack::App::URLMap does | 23:00 |
haarg | so you can probably steal some code from there | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | I've spent some time trying to figure out how to add a mount to an existing app | 23:03 |
haarg | yeah, i looked into that but didn't see any good options | 23:03 |
+perlDreamer | because what I want is for the wre demo's PSGI to call WebGUI's app.psgi for most stuff | 23:03 |
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+perlDreamer | and then call site.psgi with the right config file for the rest | 23:04 |
+perlDreamer | but I'm thinking I'm going to have to use Plack::App::Cascade | 23:04 |
+perlDreamer | which I don't like the idea of | 23:04 |
haarg | why cascade? | 23:04 |
+perlDreamer | because it's an alternate way of mounting | 23:05 |
+perlDreamer | so, try to call demo.psgi | 23:05 |
+perlDreamer | and it 404's if the hostname is wrong | 23:05 |
+perlDreamer | then handoff to app.psgi | 23:05 |
+perlDreamer | the other thing I thought of was to run a completely different server for demos | 23:05 |
+perlDreamer | so now everything goes through the demo server | 23:05 |
+perlDreamer | but that's additional hosting costs and upgrade times | 23:06 |
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haarg | why can't you use mounts to take care of the different hostnames | 23:06 |
haarg | then inside the demo app do your own dispatching | 23:07 |
+perlDreamer | I guess if I didn't use WebGUI's app.psgi, and duplicate most of the content in a WRE app.psgi which added the demo mount, that would work | 23:07 |
+perlDreamer | it goes back to adding a mount to an existing app | 23:08 |
+perlDreamer | I want something like this to work | 23:08 |
haarg | builder { mount 'http://demo.webgui.org/' => $demo_app; mount '/' => $app_psgi } | 23:08 |
+perlDreamer | yeah | 23:09 |
+perlDreamer | but won't that leading '/' break the hostname lookup in app.psgi? | 23:09 |
haarg | no | 23:09 |
+perlDreamer | well then | 23:09 |
+perlDreamer | I need to get demo.psgi working, and then do some mounting | 23:09 |
haarg | the last mount also functions as a fallback | 23:11 |
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CIA-66 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * rc567398 / wre/lib/WRE/WebguiDemo.pm : use parent instead of Moose, finalize the response before returning it. - http://git.io/tnr6lA | 23:30 |
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eiro | hello all | 18:15 |
eiro | any way to git clone webgui ? | 18:16 |
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mindspin | webgui's gonna drive ne mad. wre installation fails starting mysql and apachemodperl. testEnvironment throws up a mass of unsolved dependencies. | 15:28 |
mindspin | installation of ubuntu-packages installs, but there is no embeded editor shown in articles. furthermore: I cannot find webguiroot. | 15:29 |
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+perlDreamer | eiro, git clone instructions are on webgui's git repository at github | 21:41 |
+perlDreamer | http://github.com/plainblack/webgui | 21:41 |
+perlDreamer | mindspin, the WRE does not provide all of the perl modules that WebGUI needs. It provides a base, and the essential binaries | 21:41 |
+perlDreamer | also, modperl won't start unless mysql has started | 21:42 |
+perlDreamer | and mysql won't start if you have other mysql config files in the system | 21:42 |
+perlDreamer | all of that's documented on the WRE install instructions and the wiki (and probably in several forum postings as well) | 21:42 |
mindspin | perlDreamer: I've read all available Forum wiki, Readme whatever files | 21:54 |
mindspin | for example: testEnvironment says, that installation of a module fails due to the lack of YAML, but cpan says Yaml is already the newest version | 21:57 |
mindspin | when trying to install DBI::mysql I get This : http://pastebin.com/JeFhHk0U | 22:02 |
mindspin | btw. Iam running WebGUI 5.8 for years with no problems and have to switch to a more recent version. | 22:03 |
+perlDreamer | mindspin: WebGUI evolved a lot since 5.8 | 22:36 |
mindspin | jupp but installation is a pain | 22:37 |
+perlDreamer | you need not use the WRE to run WebGUI, you can continue to use what is called a "source install" | 22:37 |
mindspin | I#ve tried wre, source install, and debian and ubuntu packages. all with no luck. I am fighting since to weeks and gonna give it up soon | 22:38 |
+perlDreamer | mindspin, I can't talk about the quality of the debian and ubuntu packages | 22:38 |
+perlDreamer | but I've done both WRE and source installs in the last several weeks and they work fine | 22:38 |
mindspin | on whic OS? | 22:39 |
mindspin | h | 22:39 |
+perlDreamer | ubuntu | 22:39 |
+perlDreamer | CentOS | 22:39 |
+perlDreamer | your errors look like you're either not using the WRE environment before trying to run testEnvironment.pl | 22:39 |
+perlDreamer | or, you have a my.cnf file in /etc/my.cnf | 22:39 |
+perlDreamer | perhaps both | 22:39 |
mindspin | no my.cnf | 22:40 |
+perlDreamer | and the WRE environment? | 22:40 |
mindspin | and I tried to start mysql abot twenty times before | 22:40 |
mindspin | WRE does not start mysql | 22:40 |
+perlDreamer | the WRE requires that you alter parts of your shell environment for executable and library paths | 22:41 |
+perlDreamer | there's a script to source in /data/wre/sbin | 22:41 |
+perlDreamer | source /data/wre/sbin/setenvironment.sh | 22:42 |
+perlDreamer | if you do that, it will fix the paths | 22:42 |
mindspin | I executet it | 22:42 |
mindspin | with no effect | 22:42 |
+perlDreamer | and it still claims that you don't have DBD::mysql installed? | 22:42 |
mindspin | jupp | 22:42 |
+perlDreamer | then I'm not sure what to tell you, aside from the fact that you must not have installed the WRE correctly | 22:43 |
mindspin | the weirdest thing is the ubuntu package installation | 22:44 |
CIA-66 | wrebuild: Colin Kuskie master * re93e26f / wre/lib/WRE/WebguiDemo.pm : Don't need Moose to do this. - http://git.io/S-duBg | 22:44 |
+perlDreamer | I've never used the ubuntu package | 22:44 |
+perlDreamer | nor the debian | 22:44 |
mindspin | I see the site, can turn admin on and off a.s.o. but there is no embeded editor in the article view | 22:44 |
mindspin | and: there is no webguiroot | 22:44 |
+perlDreamer | no webguiroot? you mean in the Apache config file? | 22:45 |
mindspin | no there is no data folder whatever | 22:45 |
+perlDreamer | ah, I would guess that the WebGUI defaults have been changed to meet the ubuntu file system | 22:45 |
mindspin | no upload folder no extras, but the site is there | 22:45 |
mindspin | I'll give webgui one last chance on a centos machine although I know no hoster here running centos | 22:46 |
mindspin | and I would like to get off from running my own server | 22:46 |
mindspin | Its not my job anymore | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | have you tried contacting one of the commercial Plain Black hosters? | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | er, WebGUI hosters? | 22:47 |
mindspin | toor expensive | 22:47 |
+perlDreamer | Plain Black, Procolix | 22:47 |
mindspin | I#d need a germqn or european hoster | 22:48 |
mindspin | dont want to save any data in teh US | 22:48 |
+perlDreamer | Procolix is located in The Netherlands | 22:48 |
+perlDreamer | with the ubuntu package installed, did you try to find where it put the extras directory, or the uploads? | 22:49 |
+perlDreamer | via dpkg, or locate? | 22:49 |
mindspin | I#ll gonna ask them but the reason for installation now is to check wether an actual version would fulfill the needs of my wife, whose site shall be hosted | 22:49 |
mindspin | The directories are missing | 22:49 |
mindspin | I cannot check it right now, because I had to restart the machine | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | well, if you just want to see what WebGUI looks like today, you can do that on a demo server | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | demo.webgui.org | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | that'll give you a site for 24 hours | 22:50 |
+perlDreamer | or, you could try using the VM appliance. It will run on VirtualBox | 22:51 |
mindspin | its not the look ;-) its webguis way of showing correct layouts and so on | 22:51 |
+perlDreamer | not sure what you mean by that | 22:51 |
mindspin | hehe | 22:51 |
mindspin | my wife is very precious abot showing borders spaces etc. in the way she want it | 22:52 |
+perlDreamer | ah, that's not really a WebGUI thing, it's a template and CSS thing | 22:52 |
mindspin | If she designed an article with the embeded editor it must look like she wanted | 22:53 |
mindspin | but webgui 5.8 is very weird when it comes to css | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | mindspin, if the editor isn't there, WebGUI isn't installed or configured correctly | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | oh yes, it was | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | you are right about that | 22:53 |
mindspin | nope | 22:53 |
+perlDreamer | I mean, you're right about the CSS in 5.8 | 22:54 |
mindspin | I recognized that something went wrong | 22:54 |
mindspin | jupp | 22:54 |
mindspin | so you understand my reasons | 22:54 |
+perlDreamer | not completely | 22:54 |
mindspin | I am not in teh computerbusiness anymore, I am a journalist, writing for newspapers | 22:55 |
+perlDreamer | and your wife, this site is for her? | 22:56 |
mindspin | I do not want to spend my time administrating computers | 22:56 |
mindspin | yupp she does PR | 22:56 |
mindspin | and its about her company homepage that is out of fashion | 22:56 |
+perlDreamer | that is a big issue for a PR firm | 22:56 |
mindspin | exactly | 22:56 |
mindspin | so one last chance for webgui on centos. When this fails too, she should throw her money into the mouth of some stupid Wordpress/Typo3/joomla companies | 22:58 |
+perlDreamer | mindspin, based on what you've told me, I'd go back to your ubuntu package and try to find out where they've put the extras and uploads | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | change the WebGUI config file | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | restart apache | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | and see if that fixed everything | 22:59 |
mindspin | and this is sad in my eyes, because webgui is exreemly userfriendly in my eyes | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | either that, or try to find shared hosting in Europe | 22:59 |
+perlDreamer | the shared hosting might be a better bet, because then you don't have to support the server | 23:00 |
+perlDreamer | and they should handle backups, upgrades and troubleshooting | 23:00 |
mindspin | ;-) | 23:00 |
mindspin | although this was never a problem yet | 23:01 |
+perlDreamer | yes, but you're also still using WebGUI 5.8, with all of its security issues and bugs | 23:02 |
+perlDreamer | I have children that are almost the age of WebGUI 5.8 | 23:02 |
mindspin | I have no problems with security, I just have to keep a look at the user sessions, because of spammers ;-) | 23:09 |
mindspin | but it is time to switch now | 23:09 |
eiro | perlDreamer, thanks: i've already grabbed it | 23:28 |
eiro | now i'm trying to launch it with plackup | 23:29 |
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+perlDreamer | eiro, you'll probably need to install a lot of perl modules | 23:56 |
+perlDreamer | but the testEnvironment.pl script will help with that | 23:56 |
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mducharme | mindspin I wonder if it could be a 32-bit/64-bit thing | 00:49 |
mducharme | are you trying to install 32-bit wre on a 64-bit OS? | 00:49 |
mducharme | mindspin the other option would just be to run the virtual appliance.. | 00:51 |
+perlDreamer | daviddelikat, in and out | 00:51 |
+perlDreamer | between large data transfers, chess, piano practice, shopping, caring for sick kids, housecleaning and cooking | 00:52 |
+perlDreamer | my IRC attention tends to be short | 00:52 |
@daviddelikat | perlDreamer: I have a support quesion; can we go to skype for a minute? | 01:05 |
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josh_ | hi everyone. I have a thingy setup that has a image, When i do a sql report to pull theimage out it gives me an ID, WIthin a sql report can i pull the image path out? | 01:11 |
+perlDreamer | josh_: no, you need to use some macros to get from the storage Id to a path | 01:22 |
+perlDreamer | I forget which ones, so I suggest checking out the wiki or reading some source | 01:22 |
josh_ | I browse the wiki again to try and find that, thanks | 01:22 |
josh_ | So it seems ^StorageUrl() is the one, When i put it in the sql report template it just displays ^StorageUrl() | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | two things | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | 1) make sure it's enabled in your WebGUI config file | 01:26 |
+perlDreamer | 2) it's actually ^StorageUrl(); | 01:27 |
+perlDreamer | don't forget the ending semi-colon | 01:27 |
josh_ | ah that was it! thanks | 01:27 |
josh_ | dang semicolon | 01:27 |
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+perlDreamer | 12 MB/sec | 01:31 |
+perlDreamer | now that's what I call bandwidth! | 01:31 |
josh_ | i just upgraded my internet, i have a 50 mb/s down and 5 mb/s up | 01:32 |
josh_ | its great! | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | nice. I was working on some servers last week that are throttled to 700 Kb/sec | 01:32 |
+perlDreamer | it was slow | 01:32 |
josh_ | I did the cord cutting so fast internet is a good thing | 01:33 |
josh_ | now if hard drive prices would drop it would be even better | 01:33 |
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josh_ | i had a 16TB nas storage in newegg but hard drive prices shot up | 01:33 |
josh_ | went from 6 hard drives at like 850 to 2500 bucks | 01:34 |
josh_ | wait 18TB haha. 3tb drives x 6 | 01:34 |
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eiro | perlDreamer, sure. i'll try later | 02:32 |
eiro | (i finally gave up to prepare my fosdem talk) | 02:32 |
eiro | fosdem is at the end of the week. anyone here attending ? | 02:33 |
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+perlDreamer | eiro, would love to attend, but it's on the wrong continent | 02:41 |
+perlDreamer | relatively speaking | 02:43 |
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eiro | arg ... no french translation of webgui ? | 08:09 |
eiro | it seems translation exists: https://github.com/haarg/webgui-translations/tree/master/French | 08:44 |
eiro | but not in the debian package | 08:44 |
haarg | eiro, that translation is probably way out of date | 08:44 |
haarg | it's an old proof of concept git conversion. i don't know the current state of things. | 08:45 |
haarg | it was taken from the translation server http://i18n.webgui.org/ | 08:45 |
haarg | which i also don't know the state of | 08:46 |
eiro | i can help then | 08:48 |
eiro | is there a "translator guide" somewhere ? | 08:51 |
haarg | i honestly don't know | 08:52 |
haarg | perlDreamer would be the one to ask about how that stuff is organized these days | 08:52 |
haarg | he's on pacific time | 08:52 |
eiro | maybe i should join any contributor list | 08:53 |
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eiro | the link to the mailing list here: http://www.webgui.org/wiki/getting-started-in-the-webgui-community points to a web forum | 11:14 |
eiro | http://www.webgui.org/webgui/dev/discuss | 11:14 |
eiro | is there a ml/web gateway ? | 11:15 |
eiro | (it would be awesome) | 11:15 |
eiro | (i just hate web forums) | 11:15 |
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doc_gt7 | Hello everyone. Has anyone used macroRunner.pl lately? When I run it with: "perl macroRunner.pl --help" it returns "Base class package "Config::JSON" is empty." I figured it should at least display help :) | 19:13 |
@scrottie | speaking on behalf of everyone, no, We have not used it recently. | 19:32 |
doc_gt7 | I guess it is broken :) Is there an easier way to test macros when developing them other than: "Make changes, reload apache, reload page? Just checking... | 19:39 |
@scrottie | if the utility is busted, please open a ticket, and then we won't forget to look into the matter. | 19:44 |
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haarg | macroRunner.pl isn't in core afaik | 20:01 |
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@scrottie | doc_gt7: file a bug with it's author, through whichever channel he/she offers. | 20:06 |
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+perlDreamer | eiro, the translation server is up and running, and the interface is pretty easy | 23:53 |
+perlDreamer | I'd be happy to walk you through it if you have questions | 23:53 |
+perlDreamer | doc_gt7, the best way to test macros.... | 23:53 |
+perlDreamer | is to write tests! | 23:53 |
+perlDreamer | see /data/WebGUI/t/Macro/*.t | 23:53 |
+perlDreamer | lots and lots of examples in there | 23:53 |
+perlDreamer | no need to reload/restart apache to do it either | 23:53 |
* perlDreamer has to run away and be parental for a bit | 23:53 | |
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eiro | hello | 00:30 |
eiro | perlDreamer, thanks for letting me know but ... where is this server | 00:30 |
eiro | ? | 00:30 |
+perlDreamer | i18n.webgui.org | 00:31 |
eiro | ok | 00:31 |
+perlDreamer | the French translation is 35% complete | 00:31 |
eiro | you too have kids ? i have 2 on my own :) | 00:31 |
+perlDreamer | I do, I have two | 00:31 |
+perlDreamer | once the translation goes over 95%, we'll include it in the core | 00:31 |
+perlDreamer | and hopefully the packagers will follow quickly | 00:32 |
eiro | perlDreamer, ok ... and how to test it ? | 00:32 |
+perlDreamer | test? | 00:32 |
+perlDreamer | you mean, how do you download and install a language pack? | 00:32 |
eiro | see the translation working | 00:32 |
+perlDreamer | Each language has a Download button next to it | 00:32 |
eiro | i try to setup the site of my association with webgui | 00:33 |
eiro | s/association/non profit organization/ | 00:33 |
eiro | i18n.webgui.org will work with what version ? | 00:34 |
eiro | (i fell back to 7.8 because it's well packaged) | 00:34 |
+perlDreamer | currently, it should be tracking 7.10 | 00:34 |
+perlDreamer | we don't have language pack snapshots of earlier versions | 00:35 |
+perlDreamer | This wiki page may be of some use for translating: http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/translating-webgui | 00:35 |
eiro | damn ... debian is outdated ... what a surprise :) | 00:35 |
+perlDreamer | Biologists have a word that describes organisms that don't change over time | 00:35 |
+perlDreamer | It's called "dead" | 00:35 |
eiro | haha :) | 00:36 |
eiro | what distro are you using ? | 00:36 |
eiro | ok, i co webgui-7.10 from the git repo and fix the debian config file | 00:38 |
eiro | ok... i go to bed and will report progress tomorrow evening | 00:47 |
eiro | good (whatever matches your time zone) | 00:48 |
+perlDreamer | I'm using Ubuntu, but I use a source install instead of the package. | 01:01 |
+perlDreamer | I'm in UTC-7 | 01:01 |
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