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| CIA-66 | webgui: Colin Kuskie webgui-7.10 * r78159c9 / lib/WebGUI/Group.pm : Fix typo introduced into Group.pm - http://git.io/L3LEYA | 01:37 |
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| +BartJol | howdy | 17:00 |
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| pskept | morning | 17:08 |
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| @scrottie | hullo. | 18:47 |
| haarg | greetings | 18:47 |
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| h2oliu | Did I find the right place? | 19:55 |
| @scrottie | hi h2oliu | 20:00 |
| @scrottie | I think you did. | 20:00 |
| @scrottie | you're Madison based? | 20:00 |
| h2oliu | yes. | 20:01 |
| @scrottie | for some reason, every company swears off of telecommuters after hiring me. | 20:01 |
| h2oliu | No comment. | 20:01 |
| h2oliu | scrottie, you were the bicyclist that did the long tour in France, correct? | 20:02 |
| @scrottie | h2oliu, yeah, that's me. | 20:02 |
| h2oliu | Ok. Getting-names-faces-handles all correlated. | 20:02 |
| @scrottie | http://shprung.com/pbp/?mode=info&frame=4506 ... one of the pics isn't me but some other guy who was going out of his way to hide his frame number from commercial photographers. | 20:04 |
| h2oliu | cool | 20:07 |
| * scrottie shrugs | 20:08 | |
| @scrottie | daviddelikat doesn't talk much but disconnects and reconnects all day long. David Nicol is on and off. he goes by his initials. perlDreamer is Colin. he's often active on here. he and I do most of the question answering. that's staffers. there are a lot of other regulars too who aren't staffers. | 20:32 |
| @scrottie | some of the old guard are on here, too... haarg and frodwith in particular. | 20:34 |
| h2oliu | Gotcha. | 20:36 |
| haarg | o/ | 20:36 |
| @scrottie | if you see preaction, he was our PHP programmer. he likes to talk abuot PHP, so make sure to talk to him about that. | 20:38 |
| haarg | lol | 20:38 |
| h2oliu | Why do I feel like I am being hazed. | 20:41 |
| h2oliu | ? | 20:41 |
| @scrottie | if it makes you feel any better, that would have been more at preaction's expense than yours. | 20:51 |
| @daviddelikat1 | i'd talk more if I could find a decent im client for this Mac.... | 21:03 |
| @daviddelikat1 | as it is I have this bird on my toolbar that constantly waves at me even ehtn there is nothign going on... | 21:04 |
| sbaur | daviddelikat1: Use Adium | 21:04 |
| sbaur | works fine for me | 21:04 |
| sbaur | the duck does not wave... | 21:04 |
| @scrottie | I really need to write my own. again. | 21:05 |
| @daviddelikat1 | I am using Adium | 21:05 |
| @daviddelikat1 | I like Pidgin | 21:06 |
| sbaur | then you are being annoyed by stuff that doesn't seem to bother me :-) | 21:06 |
| @daviddelikat1 | I just want it to tel me when there is stuff going on.... | 21:07 |
| @daviddelikat1 | usually its just pointing out that I recently had a disconnect/connect cycle or four | 21:07 |
| @daviddelikat1 | which happens every time I sneeze... | 21:08 |
| sbaur | I have 3 group chats open all the time. when there's something new in one of them, it displays the name of the group on the dock icon, and i have growl set up to show an alert with the chat message on my screen | 21:08 |
| @daviddelikat1 | or something | 21:08 |
| sbaur | and i don't seem to have the connect/disconnect problems you're reporting | 21:09 |
| @daviddelikat1 | I've thought about trying growl | 21:09 |
| haarg | you can configure what adium alerts you on iirc | 21:10 |
| sbaur | yep | 21:10 |
| haarg | i use xchat azure for irc, it's pretty terrible | 21:10 |
| * scrottie uses irc-II | 21:21 | |
| h2oliu | I just started with Collloquy. | 21:24 |
| h2oliu | For the 3 hours that I have used it, it seems fine. | 21:25 |
| haarg | that's probably the best choice for a mac gui irc client | 21:25 |
| h2oliu | But I don't get notified when something comes in. | 21:26 |
| haarg | i'm only using xchat because it has perl scripting | 21:26 |
| h2oliu | The last time I seriously used IRC it was just Relay. | 21:26 |
| h2oliu | Anyone got a few minutes to help with a wre install question? | 22:19 |
| haarg | possibly | 22:25 |
| @scrottie | ask away. | 22:33 |
| h2oliu | I am running into an error when trying to add a user. | 22:33 |
| h2oliu | An issue with WebGUI::Auth::Twitter. | 22:34 |
| h2oliu | Does that sound familiar to anyone? | 22:34 |
| h2oliu | It has a problem loading Sub/Name.pm, but that is up to date (according to cpan). | 22:34 |
| haarg | what do you get from perl -MSub::Name -e1 | 22:35 |
| h2oliu | one sec | 22:36 |
| h2oliu | Some error messages. | 22:36 |
| h2oliu | Ok. That gives me a starting point. | 22:37 |
| @scrottie | if you give me the exact error message, I might have a guess. | 22:37 |
| h2oliu | 1): no suitable image found. Did find: | 22:37 |
| h2oliu | /data/wre/prereqs/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/darwin-2level/auto/Sub/Name/Name.bundle: mach-o, but wrong architecture | 22:37 |
| @scrottie | ah, yeah. | 22:38 |
| h2oliu | That looks like the key problem | 22:38 |
| haarg | 32 vs 64 bit stuff i expect | 22:38 |
| h2oliu | Yep | 22:38 |
| h2oliu | Thanks. | 22:38 |
| haarg | one of the reasons i never used the wre | 22:38 |
| @scrottie | which version of OSX are you on? | 22:38 |
| h2oliu | 10.6.8 | 22:38 |
| @scrottie | I think the OSX wre was built for 10.3 or something like that. | 22:39 |
| @scrottie | maybe 10.4. | 22:39 |
| haarg | someone should probably update the topic to point to http://pastebin.com/ or some other paste site | 22:39 |
| h2oliu | This was what I used to get started (before I was even on board). | 22:39 |
| haarg | pastebin hasn't supported subdomains for a long time | 22:39 |
| h2oliu | Any suggestions on the best way to set up my test environment? | 22:39 |
| @scrottie | h2oliu, no XS modules are going to build for you. | 22:40 |
| h2oliu | XS? | 22:41 |
| haarg | i never bothered to figure out why nobody could get the wre 64bit build working properly. i just always installed the components myself and never had and compile problems. | 22:41 |
| @scrottie | h2oliu, you have a few options. you can download the wre-source and fix it up to build cleanly, and preferrably update the versions of things in it. | 22:41 |
| @scrottie | that's another option, what haarg said. | 22:41 |
| haarg | getting the wre source and building it is probably a good starting point though, assuming it works | 22:42 |
| @scrottie | you could run Debian or RedHat in a virtualbox instance. I personally would avoid that but other people seem to mind less than I do. | 22:42 |
| @scrottie | the wre source does not build cleanly on recent OSXen. | 22:42 |
| haarg | fitting the components together isn't that hard, but without any prior experience with the system a lot probably wouldn't be very obvious | 22:42 |
| @scrottie | I asked JT if fixing it should be a priority. he said no, no one hosts wG on OSX. | 22:43 |
| @scrottie | well, if a person had experience with C build problems on OSX, getting the wre-source package building should be no more complex than the build problem themselves. | 22:43 |
| h2oliu | Unfortunately, I am not a high end hacker type. | 22:44 |
| haarg | if you opt for the wre source, be aware that the git repo is currently in prep for wg8 | 22:44 |
| h2oliu | I've been in sysadmin mode for the past few years. | 22:45 |
| h2oliu | I am thinking that fitting the components together may be easier for me. | 22:45 |
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| h2oliu | Thanks for the help/suggestions. | 22:45 |
| @scrottie | you'll still want Apple's dev package. you should be able to get a personal version for free from the site, or you can talk to Jamie about getting it bought. | 22:46 |
| h2oliu | I've got xcode on my machine (a bit outdated). | 22:46 |
| @scrottie | cool. what version of perl came with OSX and do you have the source? have you build mod_perl before? | 22:47 |
| h2oliu | I haven't. | 22:47 |
| h2oliu | osx comes with 5.10 | 22:47 |
| h2oliu | I have put 5.12 on it though. | 22:47 |
| @scrottie | when modperl builds, it wants access to the (compiled) source code of perl. | 22:47 |
| @scrottie | do you *have* to use wG7? couldn't you just use 8? | 22:48 |
| h2oliu | I'm guessing, long term, I'll need both. | 22:48 |
| haarg | this might be a good reference for building stuff https://github.com/plainblack/wrebuild/blob/c85f21871a024d03732e108e2a9a9efe9b4ba97a/build.sh | 22:48 |
| h2oliu | Depending on which issues I am addressing. | 22:48 |
| haarg | that's the wre-for-wg7 build script | 22:49 |
| h2oliu | Ok. | 22:49 |
| h2oliu | Do people use the Apple supplied apache (v. 2.2), or do you tend to use a fresh version? | 23:21 |
| @scrottie | dunno! I think modperl wants headers from the source of the version you have. | 23:23 |
| @scrottie | so you'll at least need that. | 23:23 |
| h2oliu | Thanks. | 23:23 |
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| h2oliu | Anyone have experience using the Ubuntu install package? | 22:27 |
| @scrottie | I think you would have better luck if you had said "Debian". | 23:02 |
| @scrottie | ... as for that, there are some docs in /usr/share, I'm told. | 23:02 |
| @scrottie | but I haven't tried it msyelf. | 23:02 |
| @scrottie | myself. | 23:02 |
| h2oliu | Thanks. | 23:02 |
| h2oliu | I'm seeing how many different ways I can get WebGUI to not work on my machine today. | 23:03 |
| @scrottie | heh. | 23:09 |
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| ckotil | been there. | 23:37 |
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