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| maxscience | yo | 12:05 |
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| hawkaloogie | word | 12:27 |
| hawkaloogie | 7+ hours of webgui core hacking does a headache create :( | 12:27 |
| maxscience | :D | 12:28 |
| maxscience | what you did? | 12:28 |
| hawkaloogie | yeah | 12:32 |
| hawkaloogie | working under contract with plainblack | 12:33 |
| maxscience | I see | 12:33 |
| -!- hawkaloogie changed the topic of #webgui to: WebGUI, the way to enlightenment | Need help? Ask and wait patiently (it might take awhile) | 12:33 | |
| maxscience | lol | 12:34 |
| hawkaloogie | everyone comes in here and asks and then leaves before i get back to my compy | 12:34 |
| hawkaloogie | when i say "a while" i mean "hours" | 12:34 |
| maxscience | yeah I know lol | 12:34 |
| hawkaloogie | it'd be better if people from different timezones frequented here | 12:34 |
| maxscience | indeed | 12:34 |
| hawkaloogie | it'd be REALLY BETTER if the salaried employees of plainblack corp at least idled here | 12:35 |
| maxscience | indeed | 12:35 |
| hawkaloogie | but that takes a certain level of nerd-life that i assume they've left behind ;-) | 12:35 |
| maxscience | :D | 12:35 |
| hawkaloogie | (those lucky barstads) | 12:35 |
| maxscience | you know this? https://www.plainblack.com/development/portfolio/web_application_development_portfolio/vacation-calendar2 | 12:36 |
| hawkaloogie | looks sweet | 12:37 |
| hawkaloogie | looks hella sweet | 12:37 |
| maxscience | wondering why they didn't include that in the public distro... | 12:37 |
| maxscience | exclusive right in the contract? naah :D | 12:38 |
| hawkaloogie | it can probably be mimicked. with my SQLReport changes you'll be able to download any SQLReport as a template or a CSV file | 12:38 |
| hawkaloogie | (i believe that i can talk about core changes, just not about other stuff under the NDA, friggen NDAs...) | 12:39 |
| maxscience | lol | 12:39 |
| maxscience | I don't think NDAs are very useful here.. Given that the webgui community is small :D | 12:40 |
| hawkaloogie | well, sometimes they have to give sample data, which could be a sampling of real data | 12:40 |
| hawkaloogie | which is probably the only thing the NDA covers | 12:40 |
| hawkaloogie | i tried to make the other addition as generic as possible, so someday it can be added as an Operation (a little Import thing that can import CSV data to the database) | 12:41 |
| hawkaloogie | would make it easier for people to migrate to WebGUI | 12:41 |
| maxscience | someday? :) | 12:41 |
| maxscience | well you can already do that at a DB level... With the right MySQL GUI utility | 12:41 |
| hawkaloogie | yeah, along with a host of other changes i'd like to see (one table for each asset type? why not some sort of configuration file inside the database?) | 12:42 |
| hawkaloogie | true nuff | 12:42 |
| hawkaloogie | just annoying, you have to have a terminal | 12:42 |
| hawkaloogie | i won't even start on how i could try to make webgui less dependant on MySQL, Apache2, and mod_perl2 | 12:43 |
| hawkaloogie | SQLite would rule | 12:43 |
| maxscience | I think there are other areas to put efforts on | 12:44 |
| maxscience | mysql 5 is more powerful than sqlite | 12:44 |
| hawkaloogie | better docs | 12:44 |
| hawkaloogie | of course, but at a price | 12:44 |
| maxscience | which one? | 12:44 |
| hawkaloogie | eh, got me there. it's all personal preference really | 12:45 |
| maxscience | :D | 12:46 |
| hawkaloogie | like PostgreSQL (which i despise and others swear by) | 12:46 |
| maxscience | you also fix bugs? | 12:47 |
| hawkaloogie | i've tried to fix a few, fixed a few others that were included in 7.0.8 | 12:47 |
| maxscience | there are a couple of easy-to-fix template bugs... Can I show you? | 12:48 |
| hawkaloogie | i don't have svn commit access, but i can post fixes to the Bugs forum | 12:49 |
| maxscience | ah a thing first... Could you look please here http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/admin-profile-does-not-show | 12:49 |
| hawkaloogie | yeah, looked through that one | 12:50 |
| maxscience | didn't understand dwilson reply... | 12:50 |
| hawkaloogie | couldn't figure out "why" it was intentional | 12:50 |
| maxscience | ah so you didn't understand his reply too... :D | 12:50 |
| maxscience | as a matter of fact, visitors can't see my profile even though it's public... | 12:51 |
| hawkaloogie | here it is: line 277 of Operation/Profile.pm | 12:52 |
| hawkaloogie | wait no | 12:52 |
| hawkaloogie | 280: return $session->privilege->insufficient() if(!$session->user->isInGroup(2)); | 12:52 |
| maxscience | and Group(2) is the Visitors group? | 12:53 |
| hawkaloogie | no, the Registerd Users group | 12:53 |
| hawkaloogie | group(1) would be visitors | 12:53 |
| hawkaloogie | what it SHOULD be is a configuration value | 12:53 |
| hawkaloogie | where is that config value anyway? | 12:54 |
| maxscience | mmmmh... There isn't | 12:54 |
| maxscience | but you agree it's a bug? | 12:54 |
| maxscience | why visitors can't see my profile if I set it to be public! | 12:55 |
| hawkaloogie | okay, i see, the line above it lets people who set their profile to public be seen | 12:55 |
| hawkaloogie | a simple comment out of line 280 would probably fix it | 12:55 |
| hawkaloogie | but it might be better if there was some sort of way to specify if visitors can view the profile | 12:56 |
| maxscience | mmh could you reply to that page ? | 12:56 |
| hawkaloogie | done | 12:59 |
| hawkaloogie | http://www.plainblack.com/rfe/request-for-enhancement/view-and-edit-user-profile-is-not-templatable <- this would be niceness | 13:05 |
| hawkaloogie | why is Profile an Operation and not an Asset? or could make a Profile Wobject | 13:05 |
| maxscience | indeed | 13:06 |
| hawkaloogie | the profile wobject could then do what you want (allow visitors to view) and what they want (templating) | 13:06 |
| maxscience | yep | 13:06 |
| hawkaloogie | and it could do so using the profile operation | 13:06 |
| maxscience | maybe a python WebGUI would be better? :P | 13:07 |
| hawkaloogie | wtf's wrong with Perl? | 13:07 |
| hawkaloogie | "PBtmpl0000000000000052" <- edit that template to change how profiles are displayed, but not who can view them | 13:08 |
| maxscience | dunno really | 13:08 |
| maxscience | yeah | 13:08 |
| maxscience | thx | 13:08 |
| hawkaloogie | i'll refrain from starting a holy war | 13:09 |
| maxscience | the fact is that I want a variable template.. I have two different site design | 13:09 |
| hawkaloogie | so it'd be the asset | 13:09 |
| maxscience | but with Perl 6 it could be great | 13:09 |
| hawkaloogie | and this www_viewProfile is NOT conducive to making that happen easily | 13:09 |
| hawkaloogie | i could refactor this operation, and build an asset that would call some of its methods | 13:09 |
| maxscience | it would be very nice indeed | 13:10 |
| maxscience | I also search for a european version of the weather asset | 13:10 |
| maxscience | it's US-only right now | 13:10 |
| hawkaloogie | can't help ya there, it probably aggregates from NOAA | 13:11 |
| maxscience | yep it does | 13:11 |
| maxscience | that's why | 13:11 |
| hawkaloogie | there IS a global one for airports | 13:11 |
| hawkaloogie | the WeatherPixie uses it iirc | 13:12 |
| maxscience | WeatherPixie? | 13:12 |
| hawkaloogie | http://weatherpixie.com/ | 13:12 |
| Radix_ | hey guys | 13:13 |
| maxscience | ah yeah but I wanted a rebrandable one :) | 13:13 |
| maxscience | hey | 13:13 |
| Radix_ | I'm surprised to see people actually saying stuff on this channel :) | 13:13 |
| maxscience | lol | 13:13 |
| Radix_ | hawkaloogie, were you at the WUC? | 13:14 |
| hawkaloogie | wait, looks like NOAA uses METAR, which means that non-US for the weather asset should be trivial | 13:14 |
| hawkaloogie | Radix_, no. can't afford and didn't get hired in time | 13:14 |
| maxscience | yeah the point is to add an option to the weather asset so it searches from another database/web service... A bit like the Stock asset | 13:15 |
| Radix_ | i'd appreciate that too | 13:17 |
| hawkaloogie | right now it looks like WeatherData is parsing a specific HTML file, which is bad | 13:19 |
| hawkaloogie | if it could be altered to use some other sort of data, like the apparent standard METAR, it could be applied to any METAR service | 13:20 |
| maxscience | I'm looking in a Javascript widget code that does world weather | 13:21 |
| hawkaloogie | http://metar.noaa.gov/table_master.jsp?sub_menu=no&show=guide.html&dir=./documents/&title=title_helpful <- METAR format. why wasn't this used in the first place? | 13:22 |
| maxscience | it's still US-only | 13:22 |
| hawkaloogie | no, that's the international standard | 13:23 |
| hawkaloogie | and NOAA compiles the METAR internationally and provides downloads | 13:24 |
| maxscience | so could you modify it? :) | 13:24 |
| hawkaloogie | it seems feasible that I could modify WeatherData to use the METAR format. if I were ever commissioned to do so (as right now i'm working two full-time jobs, one at walmart and one for plainblack) | 13:27 |
| maxscience | oh | 13:28 |
| hawkaloogie | but let's see if i can't at least give someone else my current research on the subject | 13:28 |
| maxscience | wow thx | 13:28 |
| hawkaloogie | http://www.plainblack.com/rfe/request-for-enhancement/weatherdata-asset---convert-to-international-format <- karma it up to get it implemented ;-) | 13:38 |
| maxscience | gave all the karma I had lol | 13:44 |
| hawkaloogie | i'm going to try to get a couple hours sleep before frank calls about all the bugs I know are in my code :'( | 13:51 |
| maxscience | frank dillon :D | 13:51 |
| hawkaloogie | ah crap. i forgot one thing. I'm using my own CSV which isn't included with WebGUI | 13:52 |
| hawkaloogie | Text::CSV sucks... a lot... | 13:53 |
| maxscience | :D | 13:53 |
| hawkaloogie | now sleep | 13:55 |
| * hawkaloogie & | 13:55 | |
| maxscience | k c ya later :) | 13:55 |
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| maxscience | yo | 17:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | hey | 17:53 |
| maxscience | could you fix some bugs? :) | 17:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | of course i can | 17:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno if i have the time though | 17:54 |
| maxscience | oh :( | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | there are a lot of bugs to fix | 17:55 |
| maxscience | indeed | 17:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | so what bugs are you refering to. | 17:56 |
| maxscience | this one in particular http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/admin-profile-does-not-show | 17:56 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmm | 17:57 |
| +MrHairgrease | I think that is intended behaviour | 17:57 |
| +MrHairgrease | the sho/hide option in profiles | 17:57 |
| maxscience | nope... I'm chatting with Frank Dillon and he says it's a bug too | 17:57 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh ok | 17:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | i frank sis it | 17:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | sais it | 17:58 |
| maxscience | I said two times in that page that that options is already set to show/public | 17:58 |
| maxscience | :) | 17:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure enough | 17:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | but... | 17:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | I always thought that that option would only apply to logged in users and not to visitors | 17:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | so 'make public' would actually mean | 17:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | is viewable by registered users | 17:59 |
| maxscience | mmh yeah but why then... The word public is PUBLIC... So Visitors should be able to see it | 17:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | well | 18:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's just a matter of interpretation | 18:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | I agree though that it should be possible to show profiles to anyone | 18:00 |
| maxscience | not really... If you just say "public", all of users should see it | 18:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | whether they are logged in or not | 18:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | well | 18:00 |
| maxscience | Then rename that option to: show users to registred users. It will be more correct | 18:01 |
| maxscience | show profile to registred users sorry :) | 18:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | if I had a site only intended for people that registered | 18:01 |
| maxscience | Yeah I know but it's not clear that way... | 18:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | pls wait | 18:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 18:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'm back | 18:04 |
| maxscience | ok :) | 18:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | so let me explain | 18:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | i have this site not open for visitors right | 18:04 |
| maxscience | I understood | 18:04 |
| maxscience | public = registred users | 18:04 |
| maxscience | the point is that "public" is used in the wrong sense | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | in that case i want to give people the option whether or not to show their profile to other users | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | i don't carte | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | care* | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 18:05 |
| maxscience | lol but I do | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | if you wanna change it, go ahead | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | make it show profile to registered users =) | 18:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | in stead | 18:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | but you need the profile to be shown to visitors as well? | 18:06 |
| maxscience | yep | 18:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmm | 18:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | well | 18:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | i;m in a good mood today =) | 18:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | so | 18:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | this is what I think | 18:07 |
| maxscience | :) | 18:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | we add an extra option show profile to visitors | 18:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | and rename the former | 18:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | your task will be | 18:07 |
| +MrHairgrease | to put that on the bug tracker | 18:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | and get it approved by jt | 18:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | (since it is a new feature) | 18:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | If you succeed | 18:08 |
| maxscience | bug tracker? You mean RFE? | 18:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll hack it into webgui | 18:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure it is an rfe | 18:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | but the 'bug' in your case is | 18:08 |
| maxscience | well I don't think JT would approve that :) | 18:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | In that case I cannot put it in | 18:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | sorry | 18:09 |
| maxscience | ok let's leave that behind :) Not a real priority anyway | 18:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 18:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | so put it on the rfe | 18:09 |
| maxscience | can I point you two easy-to-fix bugs? | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll fix the ambiguous label friday | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure why not | 18:10 |
| maxscience | http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/poll-answers-and-percentage-not-displayed | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | But please take note that I only work one day a week | 18:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | and I do have real assignments too =) | 18:10 |
| maxscience | oh ok.. But you said you're in a good mood today so.. :) | 18:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure | 18:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | i finally got my drivers license | 18:11 |
| maxscience | wow about time! :D | 18:12 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah i know | 18:12 |
| maxscience | which car you got | 18:12 |
| +MrHairgrease | no car | 18:12 |
| +MrHairgrease | I only got my license | 18:13 |
| maxscience | oh k | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | now I don't have money to own a car =) | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | the orony of life | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | irony* | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | don't need one though | 18:13 |
| maxscience | oh k then | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | so i don't care that much | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | But what is the exact problem with the poll | 18:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | the answers are not shown when using a graph? | 18:14 |
| maxscience | not the answers.. The number of voters and percentage | 18:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 18:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | I can fix that | 18:14 |
| maxscience | You see the Poll on http://www.plainblack.com/support | 18:14 |
| maxscience | Yeah I guess it's a template issue | 18:14 |
| maxscience | in that poll you see the percentage and number of votes for each answer and then Total Votes: 239 | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | well that poll actually shows percentages | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | but if you have a pie | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | it prolly doesn't | 18:15 |
| maxscience | I know. The point is that pies and 3d chart doesn't. Yep | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's what you mean right. | 18:15 |
| maxscience | so this is a real bug finally? :) | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's not a template issue | 18:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | prolly | 18:16 |
| maxscience | ok :) | 18:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll check it out next friday | 18:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's easy to fix anyway. | 18:16 |
| maxscience | this is even more simple http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/events-calendar-error-in-big-template | 18:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | it prolly is | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'll see it when i get to it | 18:18 |
| maxscience | ok | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | you can probably fix the template bug yourself | 18:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | just post the correct tempate in a replie to the bug | 18:19 |
| maxscience | Yeah I know but then it wouldn't be commit to the official distro | 18:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | and someone will get it in | 18:19 |
| maxscience | oh k fine | 18:19 |
| maxscience | last one :) http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/snippet-processing-as-template-doesnt-wor | 18:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | just save work | 18:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 18:19 |
| maxscience | sorry wrong url http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/snippet-processing-as-template-doesnt-work | 18:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | isVisitor is not passed to templates | 18:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | only some session tmpl_vars | 18:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | which I can't think of right now | 18:20 |
| maxscience | but I took isVisitor from a template so I thought it would be fine :( | 18:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | session.adminOn | 18:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | what namespace? | 18:21 |
| maxscience | let me check again | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | no every tmpl_var is available in each template | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | and snippets aren't templates at all | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | there are only very few tmpl_var that are passed to all templates | 18:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | and hance also to the snippets | 18:22 |
| maxscience | yeah I know but I thought that "processing as template" option would treat snippets as "all-around" templates | 18:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | it probably does that | 18:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | but what is an all-round template in your eyes? | 18:22 |
| maxscience | well a template that is able to get all the tmpl vars working | 18:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | it is impossible to have templates with 'all' tmplvars | 18:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | 'all' template vars is a non-exeistent thing | 18:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | how would you manage to get colaboration tmpl vars into some totally unrelated snippet? | 18:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's just one example | 18:24 |
| maxscience | yeah I understood :) | 18:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 18:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | so I'll close that bug then | 18:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok? | 18:24 |
| maxscience | but again, another thing to clarify in WebGUI | 18:24 |
| maxscience | ok :) | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | coolio | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | se you later | 18:25 |
| maxscience | it would be nice to have a list of available tmpl vars to be used in Snippets when "enable processing as template" is on | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | gotta go do soime shopping | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | well actually | 18:25 |
| maxscience | oh ok c ya :) and thx for the help | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | drake said that the session templ_vars are deprecated | 18:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | so they'll disappear soon probably | 18:26 |
| maxscience | yeah... And he also said "hrmm".. :) So I guess it's something he's still checking | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | which might be why they are not dicumented | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | you know what | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | ask a question about it on the dev list | 18:26 |
| maxscience | so you can leave that bug report open until we get some clarification from JT? | 18:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'm kinda curious too =) | 18:26 |
| maxscience | ok :) | 18:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah i can leave it open | 18:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | but it is not a bug =) | 18:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | anyways | 18:27 |
| maxscience | fine :)) | 18:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | see you | 18:27 |
| maxscience | bye thx :) | 18:27 |
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| maxscience | hey | 19:48 |
| maxscience | anyone willing to help me convert my 10 lines php script into a WebGUI macro? :) | 19:48 |
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| dhelsten | Radix there? | 00:43 |
| dhelsten | I'm working on my Anonymous Registration Page and would like to collect more information. | 00:51 |
| dhelsten | I'm thinking that the best way to deal with it would be to customize it field by field. | 00:52 |
| dhelsten | Is there a way to call individual profile fields in the template? | 01:18 |
| dhelsten | How about the names of profile categories? The help files don't show these fields at all. | 01:31 |
| dhelsten | Well it has been a while and I've tried several combinations of <tmpl_var create.form.[varname]> to no avail | 02:03 |
| dhelsten | I have to assume that it isn't possible to access the data outside of the loop. | 02:03 |
| dhelsten | I need to insert more descriptive text in between fields in the sign up page. Any ideas? | 02:04 |
| Radix_ | morning | 02:13 |
| Radix_ | you can definitely customise the signup form. I've not ever done it. We're kinda in the same boat really.. got different customers that we want to sign up, and we want different required fields for each - makes it awkward to say the least | 02:14 |
| Radix_ | I haven't tackled that problem yet though | 02:15 |
| Radix_ | I was going to look at the html::template::eval template engine myself - see if I could write some more flexible logic in there based on incoming url | 02:19 |
| Radix_ | sorry.. ::expr, not eval | 02:20 |
| Radix_ | its 7:20am here.. head still waking up :) | 02:20 |
| dhelsten | I'm not a coder so I won't be much help there. If you get anything, post it to the RFE or forum. Thanks for your help in getting me set up. I would have given up on WebGUI several weeks ago if it wasn't from some of your helpful posts. | 02:38 |
| xdanger | it 02:37am here and I'm just leaving from work to go to sleep at home =D | 02:38 |
| xdanger | damn deadlines =P | 02:38 |
| dhelsten | sleep tight | 02:54 |
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| davidcl | I'm wondering if anyone on IRC can help me with my WebGUI upgrade troubles. | 03:57 |
| davidcl | Described here: http://www.plainblack.com/install/upgrade_help/upgrading-from-5.5.8 | 03:57 |
| davidcl | Really right now I'm just trying to get the site working under 6.2.11-- I've reason to believe things will go pretty smoothly after that. | 03:58 |
| davidcl | The 6.2.11 site is here on my testing server: http://deliver.klatha.com/ | 03:59 |
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| Radix_ | davidcl: more than likely one of your styles is out of date.. I seem to recall having to redo my styles for 6.2.11 also | 14:00 |
| Radix_ | what you may want to do is keep upgrading to 6.8.11 and then 7.0, then do an edit branch and set your whole site to use a default webgui style. Once you've done that you can then work on the task of migrating your styles using theirs as an example. | 14:02 |
| Radix_ | styles have undergone a bit of a change in the upgrade from 5.8.8 (I did the same thing), but they're not hard to fix | 14:03 |
| Radix_ | I'm not familiar with 6.2.11 myself (jumped straight to 6.8.x when I did the upgrade), but try: ?func=manageAssets and see if that produces anything | 14:06 |
| Radix_ | if not, try ?op=editSettings and see if you can set the Admin Console template | 14:07 |
| Radix_ | try and pick one of the default webgui ones if you can | 14:08 |
| Radix_ | if you _don't_ have any of the default ones.. hmm.. you may have to grab them from the create.sql somehow - won't be fun for sure | 14:09 |
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| maxscience | yo | 15:02 |
| maxscience | anybody hooome? :) | 17:17 |
| davidcl | hello | 18:07 |
| maxscience | hi | 18:23 |
| maxscience | do you know some Perl? | 18:23 |
| davidcl | some, yes. | 18:25 |
| davidcl | Radix_, thanks for the suggestion. | 18:25 |
| Radix_ | hope it helps! :) | 18:35 |
| Radix_ | now I'm off to bed :) | 18:35 |
| davidcl | Radix_: I think func=manageAssets and op=editSittings must both be from later versions. opt=editSettings produced a non-existent operation message in the webgui log. | 18:35 |
| davidcl | func=manageAssets didn't produce a log entry but it didn't do anything either | 18:35 |
| maxscience | can you help me converting a 10-lines php script to a WebGUI macro? | 18:36 |
| Radix_ | hmm.. I don't have a version 6.2 so don't know what the equivalent would be | 18:36 |
| davidcl | I'll try upgrading further. I don't think it will make my life any worse, and it may make it easier to get help! | 18:36 |
| Radix_ | one option is simply upgrading to version 7 and then sorting it out :) | 18:36 |
| davidcl | maxscience: sorry, I don't know enough about WebGUI macros yet to help with that. | 18:36 |
| Radix_ | maxscience - what does the php script do? | 18:37 |
| Radix_ | post the ten lines (or pm them to me) - I probably can't write it, but I can take a look! | 18:41 |
| Radix_ | off to bed now :) | 18:42 |
| maxscience | ok thx! :) have a good sleep | 18:44 |
| davidcl | At 6.6 I can access the editSettings screen, but, as a trade-off, I can no longer see any content on the site. | 20:32 |
| davidcl | Well-- I can actually see some of it, but URLs have changed. Articles which were embedded in pages are no longer embedded. | 20:36 |
| davidcl | Meanwhile I still can't see how to change the site's style. | 20:36 |
| davidcl | I think at this point I am probably missing something obvious due to my unfamiliarity with WebGUI | 20:36 |
| davidcl | (well, recent versions of WebGUI anyway). | 20:37 |
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| Radix_ | if you can use ?func=editBranch at your root level, you can probably edit the pages and set the styles for the whole site | 02:25 |
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| maxscience | hey | 17:10 |
| xdanger | howdy | 17:12 |
| maxscience | hey xdanger :) Could you help me convert a 10-lines php script into a webgui macro? | 17:17 |
| xdanger | could try, but I really don't code php | 17:17 |
| maxscience | it's the example shown here http://www.realchat.com/doc/adv-server-api.html | 17:18 |
| maxscience | could it be done easily? | 17:22 |
| xdanger | not a biggie | 17:27 |
| xdanger | that is a simple thing done too complicated | 17:37 |
| xdanger | you can do that same thing with http-proxy ;) | 17:37 |
| xdanger | and ^AssetProxy() macro | 17:38 |
| xdanger | just get the content of http://localhost:10010/?api.UserCount and you'll have the number of users... | 17:40 |
| xdanger | and the room list with api.RoomList | 17:40 |
| xdanger | REST at it's finest | 17:40 |
| xdanger | don't know why that example was done with a direct socket opening, and not with a http call | 17:41 |
| maxscience | woha never thought of that lol :D | 17:43 |
| maxscience | many thx I'll try | 17:43 |
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| ckotil | pink is IN | 18:36 |
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| Radix-wrk | morning | 03:48 |
| Radix-wrk | Hey Roy | 03:48 |
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| +crythias | Hello! | 22:15 |
| +crythias | Your purse feels lighter... | 22:15 |
| +crythias | heh. | 22:15 |
| * crythias says, "Hello, all" Your purse feels lighter... | 22:15 | |
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| hawkaloogie | anyone awake? | 04:59 |
| Radix-wrk | yah | 05:12 |
| Radix-wrk | wassup? | 05:13 |
| hawkaloogie | nevermind, i figured it out, the Product macro isn't enabled by default | 05:45 |
| hawkaloogie | which might be a feature or a bug | 05:45 |
| hawkaloogie | though i am wondering why WebGUI::Group->addUsers([users],offset) is storing the offset in the database instead of the date (like it's supposed to) | 05:46 |
| hawkaloogie | is there something special i'm missing? time() gets added to $expiresOffset, but only $expiresOffset shows up in the database | 06:28 |
| Radix-wrk | Sorry.. a bit over my head I'm afraid - my webgui programming skills are rather simple so far :) | 06:48 |
| hawkaloogie | figured it out | 06:58 |
| hawkaloogie | as an admin, i'm always in every group | 06:58 |
| hawkaloogie | but i dont necessarily have an expiresDate in that group | 06:58 |
| hawkaloogie | so i was subtracting the current time from 0, then adding the current time | 06:58 |
| Radix-wrk | ahh.. makes sense | 07:57 |
| Radix-wrk | Hmm.. just configured ssl in the wre and it seems to run, produces no errors in the logs at all, but I still can't access the server via https | 08:05 |
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| vidar | hi guys | 14:42 |
| vidar | If I want AJAX calendar, can I use the wobject for events calendar but request it only to show me the calendar itself not the whole page | 14:57 |
| vidar | ok wow now func=ajaxInlineView works | 14:57 |
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| Anime-Addict | Ah wow, kinda empty | 19:21 |
| +crythias | um. yeah. | 19:21 |
| Anime-Addict | Not used to that on IRC. | 19:22 |
| Anime-Addict | Anyone willing to losten to my situation in relevance to WebGUI? | 19:22 |
| Anime-Addict | *listen | 19:22 |
| +crythias | well take the high speed drama that is WebGUI's forums and distill it 10 % and ... well 10% of nothing is still.. | 19:22 |
| Anime-Addict | I tried the forums and the termonology is way over my head. | 19:23 |
| Anime-Addict | Im beyond noobish when it comes to this. | 19:23 |
| +crythias | ok... | 19:23 |
| Anime-Addict | I was casting around online for a nice CMS to use. I had used MKportal before and found it... lacking | 19:24 |
| Anime-Addict | Afer receiving several opinions and some general research, i found WebGUI. | 19:24 |
| Anime-Addict | And now I wish to install it, except I have No idea how. My webhosting is through DreamHost; I ahve shell and FTP access, but there is where my knowledge ends. | 19:25 |
| Anime-Addict | What am I looking at to get this running? Or am I out of luck? | 19:26 |
| +crythias | http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=2446 | 19:27 |
| Anime-Addict | Okay I am looking. | 19:28 |
| Anime-Addict | Ah well, that sure answers my question now doesn't it. | 19:28 |
| Anime-Addict | weak. | 19:31 |
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| maxscience | hey guys | 21:25 |
| maxscience | anybody home? | 21:25 |
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| rindolf | Hi all! | 23:53 |
| rindolf | I have problems installing WebGUI from the CentOS binary distribution. | 23:54 |
| rindolf | I'm using Mandriva 2007. | 23:54 |
| rindolf | I get: | 23:54 |
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| rindolf | Anyone has any idea with : http://sial.org/pbot/20390 ? | 23:56 |
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| rindolf | Hi coder_ | 00:02 |
| coder_ | hi | 00:04 |
| rindolf | coder_: can you help me with http://sial.org/pbot/20390 ? | 00:04 |
| coder_ | http://www.tech-recipes.com/mysql_tips762.html <-- ? | 00:06 |
| coder_ | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/can-not-connect-to-server.html | 00:08 |
| coder_ | im assuming no one else is around? | 00:10 |
| coder_ | =) | 00:10 |
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| +crythias | hrm | 02:16 |
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| miz29 | hi all. need help with install mysql error.. | 10:09 |
| miz29 | got it! thnx | 10:12 |
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| Jiggie | hey guys... | 17:02 |
| Jiggie | anyone here | 17:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 17:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | but i'm pretty busy | 17:03 |
| xdanger | I'm going for a beer now =) | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | good idea | 17:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll have a look if there some beer around here =) | 17:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | gotta love fridays =) | 17:11 |
| * MrHairgrease found a can of beer! | 17:15 | |
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| Jiggie | no beer | 18:55 |
| Jiggie | working | 18:55 |
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| Jiggie | yo | 22:48 |
| Jiggie | crythias give u 50-100 to upgrade a database for me | 22:48 |
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| diakopter | hello | 23:55 |
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| Radix-wrk | Anyone here using SSL with their webgui? | 09:29 |
| Radix-wrk | ie. https | 09:30 |
| Radix-wrk | I'm just curious how your apache config file is set up for it | 09:30 |
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| Radix-wrk | mine works, but when the user logs in they stay in https continually afterwards. PB's website doesn't do that, so wondering how others are doing it. | 09:32 |
| preaction | Radix-wrk, two different sites probably | 09:54 |
| Radix-wrk | two different sites? | 10:01 |
| Radix-wrk | mine is setup how it's described on the page - http://www.plainblack.com/enabling_ssl mostly.. one section for port 80, one section for port 443 | 10:03 |
| Radix-wrk | if I enable ssl in webgui, and the user logs in when on http, it switches them to https for the login, but it doesn't switch them back to http afterwards | 10:04 |
| preaction | rofl and apparently i can't even look at that page... that has to change | 10:08 |
| Radix-wrk | it's in the ruling webgui section | 10:08 |
| preaction | i don't even see that section | 10:10 |
| preaction | did you have to pay for it? | 10:10 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah | 10:10 |
| preaction | which would explain it | 10:10 |
| preaction | maybe when i start work tomorrow they'll give me access to that | 10:11 |
| Radix-wrk | it's useful, but by no means perfect - has a few things missing. | 10:11 |
| Radix-wrk | Oh well.. hopefully someone at PB will see my support request from last week and reply | 10:13 |
| Radix-wrk | the time zone difference sucks sometimes :) | 10:16 |
| preaction | yeah, i have to wake up in 6 hours, :( | 10:19 |
| Radix-wrk | about what time I head to bed almost ;) | 10:24 |
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| Radix-wrk | Mornin' | 04:37 |
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| +crythia1 | howdy | 05:15 |
| +crythia1 | ah, yeah. | 05:15 |
| +crythia1 | it's all good. That and a bottle of somethin'. | 05:15 |
| Radix-wrk | mornin' | 05:29 |
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| crythia2 | yeah | 05:32 |
| Radix-wrk | one of you isn't enough huh? :) | 05:32 |
| crythia2 | guess not. and you? | 05:32 |
| Radix-wrk | hehe.. one's at home, one's at work :) | 05:33 |
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| crythia2 | hrm | 05:33 |
| Radix-wrk | Besides.. two of me is the only way I'll get intelligent and meaningful conversation around here some days. | 05:33 |
| Radix-wrk | ;) | 05:34 |
| Radix-wrk | okay.. maybe not intelligent.. | 05:34 |
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| crythia2 | got him... er ... me. | 05:35 |
| Radix-wrk | I finally got my webgui perl script to work yesterday.. yay! I can now use a web url to add a webgui account (which means I can put it in our other database and a simple click will create the webgui account automatically). | 05:36 |
| crythia2 | kewl and you can use a wget call (forinstance) to automate the click... | 05:37 |
| crythia2 | or curl | 05:37 |
| Radix-wrk | Well.. it's the other way we want to do it from. We have a filemaker database we keep user details in, and now we can simply press a button in filemaker and have it create an account for us matching the current user. | 05:39 |
| Radix-wrk | it calls the url and passes along all the user details as parameters | 05:40 |
| Radix-wrk | would be nice to do an auth module for it, but there's no perl DBI support for filemaker and no easy way to get webgui to talk to it | 05:41 |
| Radix-wrk | so we're doing it via sql data dumps and perl scripts fired off via http :) | 05:41 |
| crythia2 | filemaker -> webgui? | 05:44 |
| Radix-wrk | filemaker can do sql calls - so we're using that to dump info into mysql | 05:45 |
| crythia2 | right... | 05:45 |
| Radix-wrk | we don't really want to play with the webgui sql directly though, could change in future and break things.. hence why I decided to use the webgui perl api to add users | 05:45 |
| crythia2 | ok. | 05:45 |
| Radix-wrk | though we're using filemaker to dump a database containing group permissions for webgui to use | 05:46 |
| Radix-wrk | that works a treat | 05:46 |
| crythia2 | I'm playing with xdrive | 05:46 |
| Radix-wrk | what's that? | 05:46 |
| crythia2 | I remember some 5 years ago when people were left and right providing free web storage and then they ALL went byebye. | 05:47 |
| crythia2 | xdrive, idrive, freedrive... | 05:47 |
| crythia2 | now aol bought xdrive. 5gb free online storage. | 05:47 |
| Radix-wrk | Ahh.. neat | 05:47 |
| crythia2 | worth a shot to trust again. | 05:47 |
| Radix-wrk | you trust AOL? :) | 05:48 |
| crythia2 | "Free" but I don't know how much AOL can stay forever. | 05:48 |
| crythia2 | well, there is that, but on the other hand, AOL does have some deep pockets. | 05:48 |
| crythia2 | I unfortunately need to reboot my computer... installation of the xdrive client on Windows xp... | 05:49 |
| crythia2 | while I'm at it, I might as well enjoy time with my wife. Ciao for now. | 05:50 |
| Radix-wrk | most of the free ones of yesterday got abused majorly by warez ppls.. hence why they went byebye | 05:50 |
| Radix-wrk | enjoy :) | 05:50 |
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| ckotil | im creating a wobject. i just got the thing installed. now to get it to do something | 16:26 |
| ckotil | my requirements: we need to provide a portal that will allow us to show, after a customer logs in, 1) all of the customer's open tickets 2) all graphs that are associated with the customer's interface 3) all monitoring system alerts that are associated with the customer 4) a mechanism for the customer to update their contact infomation 5) a way for the customer to open a ticket that already has their customer info filled in | 16:26 |
| +crythias | dotproject. | 20:01 |
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| preaction | ckotil, that doesn't look like a question? | 01:04 |
| preaction | ckotil, though I do recommend using Apache2::Reload if you're doing development work, and it seems to Just Work. see perldoc Apache2::Reload on how to use it | 01:04 |
| preaction | (it allows you do reload WebGUI modules without having to restart Apache) | 01:05 |
| preaction | i need ops here... | 01:05 |
| Radix|_ | yes you do :) | 02:35 |
| Radix|_ | ckotil: you could possibly use the soap and httpproxy objects to get some of that information if it's in other web apps. And this is the perfect use for the dashboard - to let the customer see it all at a glance and customise it themselves | 02:36 |
| Radix|_ | what ticket system are you using? | 02:37 |
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| ckotil | we use nagios and alertmon | 15:20 |
| Radix|_ | I had a play with the dashboard today.. had fun pulling data from other webpages and turning them into little dashlets for it. | 15:23 |
| Radix|_ | haven't figured out if it's possible to use the http proxy to log into webservers requiring cookies though.. would be neat if you could. | 15:24 |
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| vidar_ | hi guys | 11:23 |
| Radix_ | yo | 11:25 |
| vidar_ | The EventsCalendar small template, it does only view one event when the date is clicked, how should I solve problems where there are multiple events on the same date | 11:27 |
| Radix_ | Sorry, I've never used the events calendar I'm afraid. | 11:28 |
| vidar_ | I am not sure how much modification I need to perform | 11:28 |
| vidar_ | ok | 11:28 |
| vidar_ | but lets say you have some wobject and you need it to give you another view of the data | 11:28 |
| vidar_ | should I write a macro, www_ function or what? | 11:29 |
| Radix_ | sounds like just the template really.. if it is designed for multiple events on the same day it should just be a matter of tweaking the view info | 11:31 |
| vidar_ | hmm | 11:32 |
| Radix_ | unfortunately, I've never used it, so don't know how the template is set up or if it's possible to do that | 11:32 |
| vidar_ | the large calendar (shows all events in the date) loops through events | 11:32 |
| vidar_ | the small one just links to the first in the list | 11:33 |
| vidar_ | Radix_: do you use WRE? | 11:36 |
| Radix_ | yup | 11:50 |
| Radix_ | I'm using the RHEL4 one on CentOS 4.3 | 11:51 |
| vidar_ | if I run webguiupdate, will it possibly have any bad effects on the site} | 11:56 |
| Radix_ | only really if the update fails | 12:17 |
| Radix_ | make a backup before you do it just in case | 12:17 |
| vidar_ | backup of the /data directory is that sufficient? | 12:19 |
| Radix_ | Sure.. witht he wre the /data dir has everything you need.. including the database.. tis what's nice about the wre | 12:23 |
| Radix_ | I'd stick with 7.0.9 if you can for the moment though.. 7.1 ain't ready for production environments yet | 12:24 |
| Radix_ | good luck with it whatever you do.. I'm out for a couple of hours | 12:25 |
| vidar_ | Æ:) | 12:34 |
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| vidar_ | how comes that the new variables that I am declaring in the %var hash do never work in the templates | 18:08 |
| vidar_ | do they never refresh?? | 18:21 |
| xdanger | did you clean your cache? | 18:22 |
| xdanger | on the server side that is | 18:22 |
| xdanger | templates and assets are cachet for some time | 18:22 |
| vidar_ | yes cleaned cach, restarted, commeted | 18:22 |
| vidar_ | sorry | 18:23 |
| vidar_ | cleared cache, restarted wre and commited | 18:23 |
| vidar_ | But the variables are completely nonexistent | 18:24 |
| xdanger | commited? | 18:25 |
| vidar_ | changes | 18:25 |
| vidar_ | if I change the template then the changes are visible | 18:26 |
| xdanger | you should commit first, then clear and restart | 18:26 |
| vidar_ | but if I change the perl code then it never matters | 18:26 |
| vidar_ | yes I did it in that order | 18:26 |
| vidar_ | I even changed some of the variables but no change | 18:28 |
| vidar_ | man | 18:33 |
| vidar_ | this is twisted | 18:33 |
| vidar_ | this is correct path? /data/WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject | 18:35 |
| vidar_ | is something wrong with this: | 18:49 |
| vidar_ | $var{'day.label'} = 5; | 18:49 |
| vidar_ | there must be some other caching going on | 18:55 |
| vidar_ | I removed some variables from the code but still no change | 18:58 |
| xdanger | Is it before the $var is binded to the template? | 19:02 |
| vidar_ | yes | 19:03 |
| vidar_ | same place as the rest of the $var statements | 19:04 |
| vidar_ | I have done this before | 19:04 |
| vidar_ | no problem then | 19:04 |
| vidar_ | 'testvar' => $daysInMonth | 19:05 |
| vidar_ | in the push(@$monthloop, { did not either work | 19:05 |
| vidar_ | any advise on perl module reload forcing? | 19:08 |
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| xdanger | vidar_: Apache2::Reload or something... | 23:08 |
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| preaction | hey... we're bringing two staff up to speed (and i'm the slow one... :p) | 00:02 |
| preaction | all these custom assets, all these old versions, all this CLUTTER | 00:03 |
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| preaction | crythias, which bug in particular? i'm pulling a late night for some reason :( | 02:57 |
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| Radix-wrk | anyone there? | 06:27 |
| +crythias | heh | 06:28 |
| +crythias | long time to read, reply | 06:28 |
| +crythias | preaction: I'm joking. | 06:28 |
| Radix-wrk | anyone know what the template variables are that you can use with <tmpl_var content> to restrict it to the first X words or something? | 06:29 |
| +crythias | only available with the uss, I think. | 06:29 |
| +crythias | cs | 06:30 |
| Radix-wrk | I've seen them used before with forums in webgui, but can't remember the syntax | 06:30 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah.. with cs posts | 06:30 |
| Radix-wrk | It's like <tmpl_var content.first100words> or something like that.. | 06:30 |
| Radix-wrk | it's not documented anywhere though of course.. so I can't remember the exact wording used | 06:30 |
| +crythias | yeah | 06:32 |
| Radix-wrk | I remember running into it in someone's example code - and thinking.. damn.. that's cool, but didn't have a use for it straight away.. now I have and can't remember what syntax it was | 06:33 |
| +crythias | yeah and it's not as easy to find as before | 06:33 |
| Radix-wrk | There should be a search for help :) | 06:36 |
| Radix-wrk | content.first.100words | 06:37 |
| +crythias | yeah. and others | 06:38 |
| Radix-wrk | might have been an RFE though it looks like | 06:38 |
| Radix-wrk | http://www.plainblack.com/plain_black_support/post.pm-variables | 06:39 |
| +crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=article%20template;namespace=Asset_Article | 06:40 |
| Radix-wrk | doesn't seem to be in collaboration posts though | 06:43 |
| Radix-wrk | only variable for the post is content - no other options.. bummer.. might see if that's RFE'd already and if not request it. | 06:46 |
| +crythias | yeah | 06:46 |
| +crythias | http://www.gwy2.org/fomfiles/cache/75.html | 06:48 |
| Radix-wrk | I'll have to hassle joeri again about sqlreport.org - that has some awesome sql examples in it. He said he'd fixed it, but the site is still down for me. | 06:51 |
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| preaction | there's also the same thing in the Article wobject | 07:52 |
| preaction | i find the entire thing kludgy, since all those vars need to be propagated in memory | 07:53 |
| preaction | instead there should be a "previewLength" with something like (1 paragraph) or (100 words) | 07:53 |
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| ckotil | anyone know the template variable for the website's domain/host name | 21:26 |
| ckotil | ? | 21:26 |
| ckotil | <tmpl_var session.config.sitename> isnt working for me | 21:33 |
| xdanger | session.env.hostname ? not really sure what it was | 21:37 |
| +crythias | hmm. | 21:38 |
| +crythias | hey... why? | 21:39 |
| ckotil | i set up an RSS feed, using that method you have in the faq o matic. crythias | 21:39 |
| +crythias | oh. heh. | 21:39 |
| ckotil | I just need to get my hostname into this RSS navigation template | 21:39 |
| +crythias | you can't type it? (respectfully) | 21:40 |
| ckotil | i could, but i have 10 different host names | 21:40 |
| +crythias | all 10 will use the same rss page? | 21:40 |
| ckotil | same template | 21:41 |
| +crythias | even if it was a session variable... | 21:41 |
| +crythias | (turning debug on will help) | 21:41 |
| ckotil | k | 21:41 |
| +crythias | you'd get it from the request, I think, right? | 21:42 |
| ckotil | i dunno. session.env.hostname i got from your nav template example | 21:43 |
| ckotil | seems to no longer work in wG7 | 21:43 |
| +crythias | right. I think no more session variables. | 21:44 |
| ckotil | OK | 21:44 |
| ckotil | ^C is that the macro for company url? | 21:44 |
| ckotil | bc i could pry get by using that. | 21:45 |
| +crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=template%20variables;namespace=Asset_Template | 21:45 |
| +crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=company%20name;namespace=Macro_c_companyName | 21:45 |
| +crythias | http://www.plainblack.com/using_webgui?op=viewHelp;hid=company%20url;namespace=Macro_u_companyUrl | 21:46 |
| ckotil | ;] | 21:46 |
| ckotil | thanks | 21:46 |
| +crythias | you're welcome. | 21:46 |
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| preaction | damnit he left and i needed to thank him for helping me out... support days are brutal... | 00:20 |
| Radix_ | You're doing a fair bit of support these days I notice.. giving JT and Roy a break huh? :) | 02:20 |
| preaction | yeah, Roy's got a big project, and JT's just forsaken support | 02:23 |
| Radix_ | heh | 02:23 |
| preaction | Roy's got the fun of updating a whole slew of custom assets to webgui 7 | 02:24 |
| Radix_ | Ahh.. lovely | 02:24 |
| preaction | (that were written by retarded monkeys) | 02:24 |
| preaction | but i don't ask questions | 02:24 |
| Radix_ | who's that for - brunswick? | 02:24 |
| preaction | hmm... i just insulted a client and i'm going to tell you whom? omg! | 02:24 |
| Radix_ | lol | 02:25 |
| Radix_ | true :) | 02:25 |
| preaction | but to be honest, i don't know. wasnt' paying that much attention | 02:25 |
| preaction | just liked the idea of getting them updated | 02:25 |
| preaction | old versions... ew... | 02:25 |
| Radix_ | fair enough | 02:25 |
| preaction | but as a trade-off, i get to completely redesign the EventsCalendar from scratch. | 02:26 |
| preaction | this thing is going to be Sweet | 02:26 |
| Radix_ | neat | 02:26 |
| preaction | Multiple feed types (iCal, RSS, Atom, XML, etc...) that just use standard templates (so you can edit just about every possible way of giving the data out) | 02:27 |
| preaction | I also hope to implement a larger percentage of the iCal RFC than most other systems | 02:27 |
| preaction | or at least leave things open enough so that they can be later | 02:27 |
| preaction | i'd REALLY like to see a centralized Event system, or Calendar system | 02:28 |
| preaction | so that things such as iCal's ToDo list, Journal entries, etc... can just be IN THERE | 02:28 |
| Radix_ | any support for outlook 2003's crippled output formats? (I hate MS myself, but more than half my office uses it) | 02:28 |
| preaction | yeah, that's a big thing. wikipedia (of all places) has details on how I can do the workarounds | 02:29 |
| Radix_ | heh.. cool | 02:29 |
| preaction | i have in mind a ?feed=ical;compat=outlook2003 or something similar | 02:29 |
| Radix_ | sounds good :) | 02:30 |
| preaction | with also allowing ?template= to be specified right from the URL (for custom templates) | 02:30 |
| preaction | so that you can have a default ?feed=XXX template, but also allow users to see it different ways | 02:30 |
| Radix_ | Well I guess I'd better head off to work. See ya again in an hour if you're still awake :) | 02:32 |
| preaction | have fun | 02:33 |
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| * Radix-wrk reads one of preaction's replies in the PB support forum and offers to help carry a pitchfork for the cause. | 03:59 | |
| preaction | lol, oh god | 03:59 |
| Radix-wrk | heh | 03:59 |
| preaction | the #css channel is RIFE with this crap... | 04:00 |
| preaction | hell, steve's got a problem with some CSS dropdown menus he's building with the navigation asset... it's weird. | 04:00 |
| Radix-wrk | yeah.. css/styles suck with IE around (and still very much dominant) unfortunately | 04:00 |
| preaction | in IE, the items that do not have a child UL are messed up | 04:00 |
| preaction | i've been stumped for hours | 04:01 |
| Radix-wrk | can't fake a UL then? - ie. <UL> <UL> | 04:01 |
| Radix-wrk | err.. </UL> | 04:01 |
| preaction | that's not in the navigation asset | 04:02 |
| preaction | i think it's something to do with the negative margins he's been using | 04:02 |
| Radix-wrk | erk | 04:02 |
| Radix-wrk | enjoy! :) (better you than me) | 04:02 |
| preaction | yeah... | 04:02 |
| preaction | i gave up and am now enjoying reading about Gnome's development roadmap | 04:03 |
| Radix-wrk | heh | 04:03 |
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| vidar_ | preaction: I have been changing the EventsCalendar for my boss, he has some very basic needs which are not present (such as view only single/ day/week). | 15:12 |
| vidar_ | But for some strange reason I can no longer change the source code | 15:13 |
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| vidar_ | OK now this issue needs to be resolved | 17:25 |
| vidar_ | $var{'pagination.previousPageUrlVidar'} = $self->getUrl('calMonthStart='.($calMonthStart-$monthRangeLength).';calMonthEnd='.($calMonthEnd-$monthRangeLength)); | 17:26 |
| vidar_ | $var{'pagination.previousPageUrlVidar2'} = $self->getUrl('calMonthStart='.($calMonthStart-$monthRangeLength).';calMonthEnd='.($calMonthEnd-$monthRangeLength)); | 17:26 |
| preaction | um... that has to be the worst possible way to do it? | 17:26 |
| vidar_ | the first variable is accessible from within a the template but the second is not | 17:26 |
| vidar_ | preaction: this is just copy paste from existing code | 17:27 |
| preaction | which would explain why i'm rewriting it | 17:27 |
| preaction | i haven't even gotten a chance to look at the old one yet, i've just got a preliminary writeup on the new one | 17:28 |
| vidar_ | I have looked at the old one | 17:28 |
| vidar_ | first to fix this code (was missing parenthesis) to allow me to use AJAX to scrool between months | 17:29 |
| preaction | oooh | 17:30 |
| vidar_ | now I decleared an array of a particular day | 17:30 |
| vidar_ | to be able to have a template showing only one day of the month | 17:30 |
| vidar_ | but the problem is that webgui/wre does not want to allow me to access the new variables | 17:31 |
| vidar_ | and my boss is really annoyed why the calendar is still missing this essential functionality | 17:31 |
| preaction | where did you put them? | 17:31 |
| vidar_ | at the same place as the rest | 17:32 |
| preaction | and i said i'm working on it, the problem is they've given me a month for the rewrite | 17:32 |
| preaction | you restarted apache, right? | 17:32 |
| vidar_ | look above, the first variable is working but the second (next statment in the code) is not accessible | 17:32 |
| vidar_ | I have restarted everything except the server | 17:33 |
| vidar_ | physical server that is | 17:33 |
| preaction | meaning, i assume the kernel | 17:33 |
| vidar_ | yes | 17:33 |
| vidar_ | running wre on debian | 17:33 |
| preaction | you'd have to paste more of your code than just those two lines | 17:33 |
| preaction | damnit, why no bot in here | 17:34 |
| preaction | perlbot gave you a pastebin to use | 17:34 |
| vidar_ | When I added the AJAX URL variable then I only needed to perform rc.webgui restart and it was working | 17:35 |
| vidar_ | ok | 17:35 |
| vidar_ | let my find a decent version | 17:35 |
| vidar_ | hard to code without any testing | 17:35 |
| preaction | sure it's not, use Apache2::Reload | 17:36 |
| preaction | that's what I use in my dev environment, works quite awesomely | 17:36 |
| vidar_ | Should I put use Apache::Reload in EventsCalendar.pm ? | 17:40 |
| preaction | no, put it in your apache2.conf for your dev environment | 17:41 |
| preaction | and it has to be Apache2::Reload, you're using apache2 | 17:41 |
| vidar_ | http://sial.org/pbot/20647 | 17:41 |
| vidar_ | preaction: I am still waiting for a dev environment | 17:42 |
| preaction | a single line after SetHandler perl-script | 17:42 |
| preaction | PerlInitHandler Apache2::Reload | 17:42 |
| vidar_ | ok | 17:42 |
| preaction | it doesn't hurt anything on production (that i've noticed, do NOT quote me on that) | 17:42 |
| vidar_ | hehe | 17:42 |
| vidar_ | it is not production | 17:42 |
| vidar_ | but it is being used on a presentation | 17:42 |
| preaction | all it does is reload a Perl module that's changed, I mean the only harm is if somehow you completely screw up the module and just forget about the Reload thing | 17:43 |
| preaction | oh wait, you need another line: PerlSetVar ReloadAll On | 17:43 |
| preaction | (that can be different things depending on what modules you want to reload) | 17:43 |
| vidar_ | humm | 17:44 |
| vidar_ | do I need both lines or just the latter} | 17:44 |
| preaction | both | 17:45 |
| preaction | the first one loads Apache2::Reload | 17:45 |
| preaction | the second one tells Apache2::Reload what modules it's supposed to reload | 17:45 |
| vidar_ | what about PerlInitHandler WebGUI} | 17:45 |
| preaction | that stays | 17:45 |
| vidar_ | ok | 17:46 |
| preaction | that's very very important :p | 17:46 |
| preaction | read perldoc Apache2::Reload | 17:46 |
| vidar_ | ok lets try this | 17:46 |
| preaction | ... this code is a mess (not yours, the entire thing... can't blame you for trying to add things to an existing mess) | 17:47 |
| vidar_ | hehe | 17:47 |
| preaction | but it does give a good idea: instead of using different tables for different events, just use folders in the asset tree | 17:48 |
| vidar_ | yes that is neat | 17:48 |
| vidar_ | will your not be compatible with the current version? | 17:48 |
| preaction | should they be configurable: say "EventCalendar instance 1" uses /events/public and "EventCalendar instance 2" uses /events | 17:48 |
| preaction | it'll break all compatibility, it has to | 17:48 |
| preaction | i'll be making an upgrade script as best i can | 17:49 |
| preaction | but with your changes, it might be difficult | 17:49 |
| vidar_ | the thing that I like about this one is the scope | 17:49 |
| preaction | but your changes will be obsolete with my new one | 17:49 |
| vidar_ | preaction: my changes are basically adding a extra GET parameter to filter one day | 17:49 |
| preaction | scope is basically selecting which folder is the folder we look for the event assets in | 17:49 |
| vidar_ | yes | 17:49 |
| preaction | would've been better to add a new www_ func | 17:50 |
| preaction | so i would think it far better to say "Select what folder to look for event assets in" and "Recursion depth" <- more straightforward | 17:50 |
| vidar_ | preaction: that is what I thought | 17:50 |
| preaction | i have to change the event assets too | 17:50 |
| preaction | there are basic things that don't exist in them | 17:50 |
| vidar_ | preaction: I did not find any www_func documentation so I was not sure how that copes with templates | 17:51 |
| preaction | yeah, that's an interesting case... | 17:51 |
| vidar_ | :> | 17:51 |
| preaction | if i understand correctly... | 17:51 |
| preaction | webGUI calls the www_<func> method (with <func> equal to the ?func= param) | 17:52 |
| vidar_ | yes | 17:52 |
| preaction | the default www_view calls prepareView() to prepare the template | 17:52 |
| preaction | then calls view() | 17:52 |
| preaction | then writes headers, head tags, stylings, other stuff, and then the view() response, and then footers and the like | 17:53 |
| vidar_ | all the code is in view() | 17:53 |
| vidar_ | but it seems that the modules was not reloaded | 17:54 |
| preaction | did you reload Apache2 after changing the config? | 17:54 |
| preaction | check the error log, you might've had a module error (and apache2::Reload would fail) | 17:54 |
| vidar_ | I restarted WRE | 17:54 |
| vidar_ | ok | 17:55 |
| vidar_ | still trying to find my way around WRE | 17:55 |
| preaction | not the webgui error log, the apache2 error log, /data/wre/prereqs/apache2/logs/modperl.error.log <- should be | 17:55 |
| vidar_ | [Wed Oct 25 14:47:11 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hint: SSLSessionCache] | 17:57 |
| vidar_ | [Wed Oct 25 14:47:14 2006] [notice] Apache/2.0.58 (Unix) WebGUI/7.0.7 mod_ssl/2.0.58 OpenSSL/0.9.7i mod_apreq2-20051231/2.5.7 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 configured -- resuming normal operations | 17:57 |
| vidar_ | nothing going on here | 17:57 |
| vidar_ | [Wed Oct 25 13:28:15 2006] (27998) Apache2::SizeLimit httpd process too big, exiting at SIZE=100480 KB SHARE=45652 KB REQUESTS=871 LIFETIME=21760 seconds | 17:58 |
| vidar_ | interesting | 17:58 |
| preaction | that happens all the time, i think the purpose of that is that mod_perl doesn't clean up some things right | 17:59 |
| preaction | or WebGUI | 17:59 |
| preaction | there are a lot of circular references :( | 17:59 |
| vidar_ | perhaps I should update webgui | 18:00 |
| preaction | what version you using? | 18:00 |
| vidar_ | 7.0.7 | 18:00 |
| preaction | 7.1 isn't stable, but 7.0.9 is | 18:00 |
| preaction | should be trivial | 18:00 |
| vidar_ | scared to see if some of the templates break | 18:01 |
| preaction | why is there a startMonth and an endMonth? | 18:01 |
| preaction | your templates should be fine | 18:01 |
| preaction | unless you changed the default ones | 18:01 |
| preaction | read the changelog | 18:01 |
| preaction | and the 7.0.* releases are bugfixes, <MAJOR>.<MINOR>.<BUGFIX> is the standard we're using iirc | 18:02 |
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| ckotil | how do I view the rss feed from the messageboards? | 18:56 |
| ckotil | or, rss feed of the message boards rather | 18:56 |
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| vidar_ | preaction: they use startMonth & EndMonth because the calendar can display multiple months at the same time | 20:06 |
| preaction | okay, that's planned for a future addition in mine, but to start will only be one "period" period being a day, week, etc... | 20:08 |
| vidar_ | I haveé gathererd quite a specification from various customers regarding the calendar | 20:10 |
| vidar_ | could be useful to see what others expect from a calendar asset | 20:11 |
| preaction | and I told frank I should post to the dev forum with the design doc I had, but he vetoed (since this rewrite is being funded by a client) | 20:16 |
| preaction | so instead I just have to keep everything open-ended, which is my default way of designing anyway *toot* | 20:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | good to see someone's picking up the calendar | 20:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | what are the features your client needs? | 20:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | or is it just a rewrite of the existing functionality? | 20:18 |
| vidar_ | that would be a waste of money | 20:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | why? | 20:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | I agree it sucks | 20:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | but it just needs extra stuff | 20:19 |
| vidar_ | no | 20:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | a rewrite would be base | 20:20 |
| preaction | rewrite for more features, iCal, RSS, plus open-ended for more | 20:20 |
| vidar_ | for example | 20:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | so it needs extra stuff =) | 20:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | right? | 20:20 |
| preaction | oh yes | 20:21 |
| vidar_ | 'url' => $filteredEvents{$day}->[0]->{url} | 20:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's ugly | 20:22 |
| vidar_ | so each days url is just an event on that day | 20:22 |
| vidar_ | what about other events on that day?? | 20:22 |
| vidar_ | this is trivial | 20:22 |
| vidar_ | or at least there should be a 'all' => $filteredEvents{$day} | 20:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | probably it does | 20:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'm sure preaction will fix those things | 20:25 |
| vidar_ | MrHairgrease: do you have any idea why my code does not show up after apache restart? | 20:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | you mean you get perl code in you browser? | 20:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | usually that's b/c apache doesn't know what to do with the files | 20:29 |
| vidar_ | no I mean that my improved EventsCalendar behaves like the old one | 20:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 20:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | did you stop/start apache? | 20:29 |
| vidar_ | í stoped WRE | 20:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | I never used the wre before | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | so I'm not sure what to do | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | did you flush the cache? | 20:30 |
| vidar_ | The only thing that has changed since I last modified the source is that more RAM was installed | 20:30 |
| vidar_ | MrHairgrease: yes | 20:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | another possibility is that you are editing the wrong file | 20:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | I had that once | 20:31 |
| vidar_ | if I completly remove the module then it outputs a blank page | 20:31 |
| vidar_ | if I use the new variables in the template then they are blank | 20:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmm | 20:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | weird | 20:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | what kind of changes did you do | 20:32 |
| vidar_ | if I change the content of existing variable then the old value is still showing | 20:32 |
| vidar_ | I mostly added a new variable to the hash varible containing all the template stuff | 20:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | can you paste the diff somewhere? | 20:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll have a look | 20:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | but first I have to do some grocery shopping | 20:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll be back in 30 or so | 20:34 |
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| vidar_ | starnge | 20:50 |
| vidar_ | I magnaged to change the Event.pm | 20:50 |
| vidar_ | must be some error in my code | 20:53 |
| +MrAfkGrease | did you commit your new templates? | 21:02 |
| vidar_ | Not always, I see them changes as I always put version number on them | 21:06 |
| ckotil | how do I view the rss feed of the messageboards? | 22:11 |
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| isaacfinnegan | anyone here? | 22:18 |
| isaacfinnegan | when processing a template, are macros processed before or after the template variables | 22:18 |
| isaacfinnegan | template tags, I mean | 22:18 |
| +MrAfkGrease | after | 22:27 |
| +MrAfkGrease | macro's are processed in the end | 22:27 |
| isaacfinnegan | k. thx | 22:32 |
| preaction | perlbot <3 | 23:01 |
| perlbot | bullshit, I'm way more than 3 | 23:01 |
| preaction | perlbot cpan for HTML::Template | 23:02 |
| perlbot | Documentation for 'HTML::Template' can be found here: http://xrl.us/srx8 | 23:02 |
| preaction | yay | 23:02 |
| preaction | now i get roy to give me chanserv and this place can start hopping | 23:02 |
| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot > 3 | 23:03 |
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| preaction | perlbot help | 23:03 |
| perlbot | (fact)::tell (who) about (what)::(what) > (who)::learn (what) as (info)::relearn (fact) as (info)::phone (phone number)::shorten (url)::shorten it::search (module)::docs (module)::perldoc -f (function)::jargon (term)::math::fortune::flip::host (type) (record)::rot13::roll (die)::tempconv (temp)::scramble (foo)::8ball::slap::diss::what time is it::top/bottom (number) karma::geoip (ip) | 23:03 |
| preaction | perlbot codebase | 23:04 |
| perlbot | check out my insides: http://chrisangell.com/incoming/chrisbot/v3 | 23:04 |
| preaction | crap... what's the factoid for the list of factoids... | 23:04 |
| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot fortune | 23:05 |
| perlbot | "He could be a poster child for retroactive birth control." | 23:05 |
| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot slap | 23:05 |
| preaction | perlbot slap MrAfkGrease | 23:05 |
| * perlbot slaps MrAfkGrease around a bit with a large trout | 23:05 | |
| preaction | also, you can interact w/ perlbot in pm, or in #perlbot | 23:05 |
| +MrAfkGrease | no | 23:05 |
| preaction | the author's a friend of mine, and it's one of the main #perl bots (so i always miss it when i need factoids) | 23:06 |
| +MrAfkGrease | I'll let you guys 'enjoy' my boredom | 23:06 |
| +MrAfkGrease | =) | 23:06 |
| preaction | oh, i see how it is | 23:06 |
| preaction | perlbot be MrAfkGrease | 23:06 |
| perlbot | <MrAfkGrease> How I can make teh web wit pearl?!?! | 23:06 |
| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot be preaction | 23:06 |
| perlbot | <preaction> How I can make teh web wit pearl?!?! | 23:06 |
| preaction | i need to get him some more of those :p | 23:06 |
| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot be Rizen | 23:06 |
| perlbot | <Rizen> How I can make teh web wit pearl?!?! | 23:06 |
| +MrAfkGrease | hmmm | 23:07 |
| preaction | wtf... no randomness anymore? | 23:07 |
| +MrAfkGrease | does that serve a purpose in any way? | 23:07 |
| preaction | nope, just a way to flame newbs | 23:07 |
| +MrAfkGrease | oh | 23:07 |
| +MrAfkGrease | that should grow the community =) | 23:07 |
| preaction | main purpose is infobot, has some other nice things | 23:08 |
| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot rot13 webgui | 23:08 |
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| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot rot13 jrothv | 23:08 |
| perlbot | webgui | 23:08 |
| preaction | perlbot host ip plainblack.com | 23:08 |
| perlbot | Sorry, type ip isn't allowed. It might take up too much space here, or may be unsupported. Allowed types are: a aaaa ptr mx ns cname | 23:08 |
| +MrAfkGrease | perlbot rot13 MrHairgrease | 23:08 |
| perlbot | ZeUnveternfr | 23:08 |
| -!- MrAfkGrease is now known as ZeUnveternfr | 23:08 | |
| preaction | perlbot -f crypt | 23:08 |
| preaction | lol | 23:09 |
| perlbot | Documentation for 'crypt' can be found here: http://snipurl.com/fsst | 23:09 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot scramble yoMomma | 23:09 |
| perlbot | ymomMoa | 23:09 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot scramble yoMomma | 23:09 |
| perlbot | yMmmooa | 23:09 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | nice | 23:09 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | now it's even easier to perform useless tasks =) | 23:10 |
| preaction | perlbot scramble i believe that was based on the study that you can still read words if the first and last letters are in the correct place | 23:10 |
| perlbot | i beileve taht was bsead on the sdtuy taht you can slitl raed wrdos if the frist and lsat leertts are in the crrceot pclae | 23:10 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | ah | 23:10 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | i get it | 23:11 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot flip onno | 23:11 |
| preaction | perlbot flip 2 | 23:11 |
| preaction | hmm... | 23:11 |
| preaction | perlbot ymmv | 23:11 |
| perlbot | Your mileage may vary | 23:11 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | aha | 23:11 |
| preaction | that's the main thing, i need it in almost every channel i'm in | 23:11 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot scramble otto | 23:12 |
| preaction | i hate explaining IRC acronyms | 23:12 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | so don't | 23:12 |
| preaction | i don't, perlbot does | 23:12 |
| preaction | perlbot tmtowtdi | 23:12 |
| perlbot | The Perl motto: There's more than one way to do it! Also pronounced as timtoady (which is also Larry's nick on IRC) | 23:12 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot tanstaafl | 23:12 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot tmtowtdi | 23:13 |
| preaction | omg | 23:13 |
| perlbot | The Perl motto: There's more than one way to do it! Also pronounced as timtoady (which is also Larry's nick on IRC) | 23:13 |
| preaction | perlbot tanstaafl is There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch | 23:13 |
| perlbot | added tanstaafl to the database | 23:13 |
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| perlbot | omg wtf bbq | 23:13 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot omg is Oh my god | 23:14 |
| perlbot | I already have an entry for omg | 23:14 |
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| perlbot | omg wtf bbq | 23:14 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot omfg | 23:14 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot rtfm | 23:14 |
| perlbot | http://mongers.org/rtfm | 23:14 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot rtfa | 23:15 |
| perlbot | Read The Fucking Article, Cunt Face | 23:15 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | heh | 23:15 |
| * ZeUnveternfr is finished playing around | 23:15 | |
| isaacfinnegan | wow | 23:19 |
| ckotil | perlbot FOM | 23:23 |
| ckotil | perlbot FUBAR | 23:23 |
| perlbot | Fucked Up Beyond All Repair | 23:23 |
| preaction | perlbot omfg is I can't believe you did that... | 23:23 |
| perlbot | added omfg to the database | 23:23 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot bofh | 23:23 |
| perlbot | bastard operator from hell | 23:23 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot chainsaw | 23:24 |
| ckotil | perlbot ftw | 23:24 |
| perlbot | maybe it's not just wtf backwards | 23:24 |
| ckotil | heh | 23:24 |
| ckotil | perlbot ftw is for the win | 23:24 |
| perlbot | I already have an entry for ftw | 23:24 |
| ckotil | too bad that caught on. i liked fuck the what better | 23:24 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | ah well | 23:25 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | can't have it all =) | 23:25 |
| preaction | perlbot karma c | 23:25 |
| perlbot | Karma for c: 1486 | 23:25 |
| ckotil | perlbot karma ckotil | 23:26 |
| perlbot | ckotil doesn't have any karma | 23:26 |
| ckotil | aww | 23:26 |
| preaction | preaction++ | 23:26 |
| perlbot | What kind of idiot karmas himself? Your kind of idiot! | 23:26 |
| preaction | perlbot karma preaction | 23:26 |
| perlbot | Karma for preaction: -1 | 23:26 |
| preaction | aww... | 23:26 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot karma ZeUnveternfr | 23:26 |
| perlbot | ZeUnveternfr doesn't have any karma | 23:26 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | well there's a surprise =) | 23:27 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | MrHairgrease++ | 23:27 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot karma MrHairgrease | 23:27 |
| perlbot | Karma for MrHairgrease: 1 | 23:27 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | MrHairgrease++ | 23:27 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | perlbot karma MrHairgrease | 23:27 |
| perlbot | Karma for MrHairgrease: 2 | 23:27 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | hah! | 23:27 |
| +ZeUnveternfr | beat the system | 23:27 |
| -!- ZeUnveternfr is now known as MrHairgrease | 23:28 | |
| * MrHairgrease is invincible! | 23:28 | |
| +MrHairgrease | perlbot flip zappo | 23:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | MrHairgrease++ | 23:28 |
| perlbot | What kind of idiot karmas himself? Your kind of idiot! | 23:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | perlbot karma MrHairgrease | 23:29 |
| perlbot | Karma for MrHairgrease: 1 | 23:29 |
| ckotil | Are there any way to view/get stats of user page views? | 23:37 |
| preaction | like, on a per-WebGUI-user basis? or like from the Apache access logs? | 23:43 |
| ckotil | per webgui user would be really nice | 23:48 |
| ckotil | i can use awstats on the logs. | 23:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | perhaps you can tie in webgui larma as well | 23:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | karma* | 23:49 |
| +MrHairgrease | perlbot perlbot | 23:49 |
| perlbot | Perl OO tricks and examples - http://perldoc.perl.org/perlbot.html | 23:49 |
| preaction | there'd probably be a way to see which user logged in from which IP and for what duration from the access logs, otherwise i'm not seeing anything directly inside webgui | 23:50 |
| ckotil | ya. | 23:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | you'd have to tie perlbot to the webgui api to do the karma thing | 23:50 |
| xdanger | MrHairgrease++ | 23:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | xdanger++ | 23:51 |
| preaction | oh, that's what you mean | 23:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 23:51 |
| xdanger | yey, a bot to play with! | 23:51 |
| preaction | i think chris made a list karma site | 23:51 |
| preaction | i want to know where the list factoids site is too | 23:51 |
| ckotil | it'd be really cool to see page views and performance. in webgui | 23:51 |
| xdanger | I should be reading for my exam =) | 23:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | who's chris | 23:51 |
| preaction | Chris62vw wrote perlbot | 23:51 |
| preaction | perlbot author | 23:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 23:51 |
| +MrHairgrease | ic | 23:52 |
| preaction | perlbot Chris62vw | 23:52 |
| perlbot | my master | 23:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | perlbot chris | 23:52 |
| perlbot | Master of the universe! | 23:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | heh | 23:52 |
| preaction | and so modest too | 23:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | well | 23:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | more modest than I am | 23:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 23:52 |
| preaction | you claim time as your mistress? | 23:52 |
| preaction | could you give me some more? i seem to lose large chunks of it to the support forums | 23:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | not time | 23:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | it must be that weidr 11th string theory dimesion | 23:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | perlbot slap Mrhairgrease | 23:54 |
| * perlbot slaps Mrhairgrease around a bit with a large trout | 23:54 | |
| +MrHairgrease | that's better | 23:55 |
| preaction | the one that ties all of creation together, the force, God, metaphysics, quantum theory, and good ol' Width/Depth/Height all in one? | 23:56 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 23:58 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's it | 23:58 |
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| ckotil | heh | 00:10 |
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| +crythias | google desktop rocks. | 22:03 |
| +crythias | just sayin' | 22:03 |
| preaction | never tried it | 22:04 |
| preaction | do they even HAVE a linux version? | 22:05 |
| +crythias | don't think so. | 22:05 |
| preaction | so i don't get to try it either :( | 22:05 |
| +crythias | :( | 22:07 |
| +crythias | apparently KDE has a desktop search... | 22:08 |
| +crythias | http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Kat-Desktop-Search-Engine-for-Linux-2138.shtml | 22:08 |
| preaction | Gnome's working on something similar for v3, something to integrate just about every part of the desktop | 22:09 |
| preaction | but since i'm migrating to Xfce when i finally get my http/file server running, it doesn't matter which i use really (not that it ever does... yay linux!) | 22:10 |
| +crythias | http://beagle-project.org/Main_Page | 22:14 |
| +crythias | :) Yep, xfce is nice. | 22:14 |
| +crythias | I use ion3d... or I used to until I got my WinXP laptop and didn't go back. | 22:14 |
| preaction | you poor sucka | 22:17 |
| preaction | i've got a MacBook Pro ;) | 22:17 |
| +crythias | How does it feel to have nothing that works with your laptop? | 22:17 |
| +crythias | :) :) :) :) | 22:18 |
| preaction | http://gnu-darwin.org <- waiting, waiting, waiting | 22:18 |
| preaction | if i could just completely replace the Mac OSX crap with Xorg, Xfce, etc... | 22:21 |
| +crythias | Yellowdog? | 22:21 |
| preaction | i mean, my ubuntu comp is FOSS, it has it's problems, but they're COMFORTABLE problems | 22:21 |
| xdanger | why would you want to use anything else than mac osx for desktop? | 22:22 |
| +crythias | http://www.intuitive.com/blog/ubuntu_linux_yellowdog_linux_and_mac_os_x_all_on_one_powerbook.html | 22:22 |
| preaction | crythias, interesting... wonder how the hardware support is... must google | 22:26 |
| +crythias | now, YellowDog was intending to be for PPC ... with Intel, you could possibly use a standard dist. | 22:27 |
| preaction | yeah, it's an intel | 22:27 |
| preaction | but debian's had a PPC kernel for a while | 22:27 |
| +crythias | http://bin-false.org/?p=17 | 22:30 |
| +crythias | perlbot eval(False==False); | 22:55 |
| +crythias | :) | 22:55 |
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| ckotil | is there something i can put into the definition of a wobject that will automatically create the admin buttons (icon, DELETE, EDIT, CUT, COPY, SHORTCUT) for the wobject? | 20:30 |
| ckotil | I cant track down the code needed to add that | 20:30 |
| ckotil | oh pry in the template eh? | 20:51 |
| ckotil | yah. | 20:56 |
| preaction_ | yeah, in the template itself | 21:04 |
| preaction_ | tmpl_var controls i believe | 21:04 |
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| ckotil | too ez ;] | 21:10 |
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| preaction | has anyone gotten to take a look at Yui ever? | 02:33 |
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