| --- Log opened Tue Apr 01 00:00:01 2008 |
| --- Day changed Tue Apr 01 2008 |
| perlmonkey2 | or at least a vibrant solution | 00:00 |
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| perlmonkey2 | project | 00:00 |
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| @preaction | not really. a lot of OSS projects do this same thing, not sure how they solve the upgrade / data problem though | 00:00 |
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| perlmonkey2 | preaction: doh, I meant the JT being pretty easy about new stuff. | 00:01 |
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| @preaction | oh | 00:01 |
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| @preaction | also not really | 00:01 |
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| @preaction | but yeah, those projects don't last long | 00:01 |
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| @preaction | the early PHP CMS systems, for example | 00:02 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Too bad any of them survived. | 00:03 |
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| @preaction | i think we're on the second generation of those things at least | 00:03 |
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| SynQ | http://www.webgui.org/etcetera/mssql---data-form-report languages are cool to play with :) | 00:06 |
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| perlmonkey2 | If a survey editor selects to have questions show up on a section page. Should the section be shown for every question in that section? or if all the questions don't show up in the first page, just show the questions on the next reload? I'm thinking if they want questions to appear with a section's text, they want all the questions in that section to have that text? | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'd think so | 00:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | I probably would have made it survey wide, too, instead of section by section | 00:27 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hmm...some sections you might want questions to appear along with, others you might not? | 00:28 |
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| perlmonkey2 | although I guess you could set it survey wide and then any sections you need to only show text and no questions, just don't put any questions in that section. | 00:29 |
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| perlmonkey2 | when it has been 15 years since you've heard any Motley Crew and then you all of a sudden realize they are in your MP3 collection, then, and only then, do you really wish your amp went to 11. | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | I thought your amp only goes to 11 if you listen to Spinal Tap? | 00:32 |
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| perlmonkey2 | heh | 00:39 |
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| perlmonkey2 | anyone bored want to answer this. Should I be using MySQL DateTimes or the BIGINT(20)'s I'm seeing in other tables? I just want a datetime for when a response was started and stopped. | 00:41 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I ask because sometimes WGBP have changed, but old code hasn't caught up. | 00:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: aren't we using MySQL date/times in all new Assets? | 00:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2: certainly, refactoring old code is rare in wG. It's even rarer than writing tests :( | 00:42 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, we're trying to, but it is difficult to do because of the way the definition works | 00:42 |
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| @preaction | make sure the defaultValue is specified in the MySQL format | 00:43 |
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| perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: cool, thanks | 00:43 |
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| perlmonkey2 | preaction: I just use a default of now() in the table def? | 00:43 |
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| perlmonkey2 | well, for the start date, the end date I want to be nullable. | 00:44 |
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| @preaction | WebGUI::DateTime->now->toDatabase; should work | 00:44 |
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| @preaction | if you want it to be nullable, then you'll have to do post-processing in processPropertiesFromFormPost | 00:44 |
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| @preaction | (setting it to the right format) | 00:44 |
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| perlmonkey2 | oh man....looking at that makes me think I don't know what I'm doing. | 00:46 |
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| perlmonkey2 | $self->session->db->insert("insert into Survey_reponseId values(?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)",[$self->getId(),$self->session->id->generate(),$id,$self->session->user->username,$ip,'now()',undef ]); | 00:46 |
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| perlmonkey2 | whups, typo...that first insert is a write | 00:47 |
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| @preaction | $self->session->db->setRow would probably be easier to use | 00:50 |
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| @preaction | see WebGUI::SQL->setRow | 00:50 |
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| perlmonkey2 | okay | 00:55 |
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| perlmonkey2 | cool, I like that setRow helper. I'll have to move all my other stuff to it. | 01:01 |
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| SynQ | http://web.archive.org/web/20020530034348/http://www.plainblack.com/ | 01:18 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: jt * r5994 /translations/Spanish/Spanish/ (4 files): update_from_translation_server | 01:27 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: jt * r5995 /translations/Turkish/ (4 files in 2 dirs): update_from_translation_server | 01:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | The new Turkish translation advanced from nothing to 3.5% today. If it continues at that pace, they'll overtake all but the Dutch and Arabic translations in a few weeks | 01:58 |
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| Dadok | hey guys | 03:45 |
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| @preaction | hello | 03:47 |
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| Dadok | im having a small problem with finding the right version of perlmagick. im using windows XP and downloaded the imagemagick 6.4.0 binary, installed it and checked to add perlmagick on install. unfortunately it seems to install version 6.3.7 of perlmagick with it, so when i try to run any of the demos im getting a Image::Magick object version 6.3.7 does not match bootstrap parameter 6.4.0 at ... | 03:52 |
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| Dadok | i tried twice to clean out all old versions and reinstall and it does the same thing | 03:52 |
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| Dadok | perhaps you could just tell me where to get version 6.3.7 of image magick? or any downloadable pair of matching versions would be fine :P | 03:53 |
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| +Radix-wrk | cpan for latest perlmagick perhaps? | 03:53 |
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| Dadok | i tried that | 03:53 |
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| Dadok | it gives version 6.3.2 i think | 03:53 |
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| +Radix-wrk | I don't know I'm afraid.. I just use the WRE | 03:53 |
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| Dadok | shucks | 03:55 |
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| Dadok | does anyone have any experience installing imagemagick/perlmagick on windows? | 08:32 |
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| @preaction | Dadok, why not use the WRE? | 08:38 |
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| Dadok | hmm. i dont really understand what you mean. Ithought I was using the WRE and that I needed to add imagemagick/perlmagick as a module for things such as thumbnails to work... | 09:52 |
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| Syn2 | mogge | 10:48 |
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| +Radix-wrk | thinkgeek.com has some awesome new gadgets | 11:23 |
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| +Radix-wrk | the betamax to hd-dvd converter is just pure gold :) | 11:23 |
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| BartJol | whoa, that's cool, although betamax is better than dvd off course | 11:26 |
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| +Radix-wrk | did you watch the video? :) | 11:33 |
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| +Radix-wrk | on a similar note: http://www.youtube.com has some great featured videos :) | 11:34 |
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| BartJol | not yet | 11:43 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Table of Contents - Edited on 4/1/2008 3:40 am by bartjol http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/table-of-contents | 11:52 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Table of Contents - Edited on 4/1/2008 3:43 am by bartjol http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/table-of-contents | 11:55 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Add custom macro to RichEdit macro selection - Created on 4/1/2008 3:54 am by bartjol http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/add-custom-macro-to-richedit-macro-selection | 12:06 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Add custom macro to RichEdit macro selection - Edited on 4/1/2008 3:55 am by bartjol http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/add-custom-macro-to-richedit-macro-selection | 12:07 |
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| af_ | hi to all | 16:02 |
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| arjancwidlak | hihi | 16:02 |
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| Syn2 | hi arjan | 16:11 |
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| arjancwidlak | sorry, was just saying hi to af_ | 16:11 |
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| perlmonkey2 | You all hear the news? MS is buying Redhat. | 16:59 |
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| +MrHairgrease | nice try | 16:59 |
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| perlmonkey2 | :D | 16:59 |
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| jfluhmann | thanks for reminding me what today is | 17:00 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hey perlmonkey2: i see you joined the pbwg gang! | 17:02 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I did? | 17:02 |
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| +MrHairgrease | http://www.webgui.org/webgui/campaigns/people/kaleb-murphy#LnmSZhHi3jQZvX864GKVqw | 17:02 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hah, that is too cool :P | 17:02 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Hah, I've already been rated -1 :D | 17:03 |
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| +MrHairgrease | I'm rated 12 | 17:04 |
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| +MrHairgrease | must be the eurotrash look | 17:04 |
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| perlmonkey2 | heh | 17:04 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but then again that took me over two years =) | 17:05 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I can't find a MrHairgrease in the PBWG | 17:06 |
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| +MrHairgrease | take a better look | 17:06 |
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| +MrHairgrease | the photo gives me away | 17:07 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Hmm, the person with the most hair product in the pictures would be Martin. | 17:10 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Or JT. | 17:10 |
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| perlmonkey2 | But you aren't JT :P | 17:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 17:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | better don't tell him that | 17:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | =) | 17:10 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Heh | 17:10 |
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| abc | i am having issues creating a database link to sql server 2003. any ideas? | 17:54 |
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| @preaction | do you have an error message or otherwise? | 17:59 |
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| abc | orignally just a blank screen. then when i changed it to DBI:Sybase:[server=10.24.1.250][database=BGHS] i get Error: Could not connect to the database. | 18:05 |
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| @preaction | shouldn't you be using the ODBC driver? | 18:07 |
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| abc | i am not sure that is setup on the server and my network guy is out | 18:07 |
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| abc | what would the DSN look like to test it | 18:08 |
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| perlmonkey2 | My new laptop shipped......I'm so pumped. | 18:18 |
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| perlmonkey2 | shipped 4 days early | 18:19 |
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| topsub | lol | 18:21 |
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| topsub | brand? Specs? | 18:21 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hah, Dell Vostro 1700. 3GB of 667 ram, T8100. | 18:22 |
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| perlmonkey2 | They had a deal for $500 off and I couldn't resist. | 18:23 |
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| perlmonkey2 | had to upgrade the wirefi to intel to ensure linux wifi would work. Graphics are just an X3100. Upgraded the screen to 1600x1200 res (17"). I won't even boot the XP it came with and install Fedora immediately. | 18:25 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Although F9 comes out in 1 month, so I'll be reinstall soon :P | 18:25 |
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| topsub | nice | 18:26 |
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| topsub | when i was in college i made the mistake of buying an alienware... blah! | 18:26 |
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| perlmonkey2 | doh | 18:26 |
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| topsub | that was the thing when i was in college | 18:26 |
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| topsub | everyone dreamed of having one | 18:26 |
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| perlmonkey2 | nice machines, but they take some $$ | 18:26 |
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| topsub | over 3grand | 18:27 |
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| perlmonkey2 | This Vostro will be $800. | 18:27 |
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| topsub | mobo went out on it so its in my lenovo box in parts till i can find new mobo | 18:27 |
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| perlmonkey2 | doh | 18:27 |
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| topsub | they are a pain to take apart | 18:27 |
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| topsub | it wouldn't keep clock time | 18:27 |
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| topsub | very annoying had to set it everytime | 18:27 |
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| perlmonkey2 | you run XP on it? | 18:28 |
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| topsub | the alienware? ya it had xp cuz in college all software needed xp | 18:28 |
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| topsub | well most.. some were mac only.. video editing classes | 18:28 |
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| perlmonkey2 | yeah, and an alienware is for gaming, and gaming means MS. | 18:28 |
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| topsub | ya | 18:28 |
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| topsub | sadly never really got to test the gaming on it.. think i had need for speed2 on it | 18:29 |
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| topsub | but that was it | 18:29 |
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| perlmonkey2 | dang, that sucks | 18:29 |
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| topsub | no World of Warcraft or anything | 18:29 |
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| topsub | cuz was in college = 3 jobs = no time to play.. lol | 18:29 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hah, shoudl probably consider yourself lucky.....like saying "I never got to try heroin" | 18:29 |
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| topsub | lol | 18:30 |
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| topsub | when i paying 3 grand for laptop i want to try out the gaming on it... lol | 18:30 |
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| perlmonkey2 | heh, and when I think 3 grand, I think 2 machines with 8 cores and 16GB ram. | 18:32 |
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| topsub | lol | 18:32 |
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| topsub | nope overpriced laptops | 18:32 |
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| topsub | lol | 18:32 |
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| perlmonkey2 | and how much data could be crunched | 18:32 |
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| topsub | now dell owns it | 18:32 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hhahaha, absolutely | 18:32 |
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| perlmonkey2 | they bought alienware? | 18:32 |
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| topsub | ya | 18:32 |
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| @preaction | 3 grand for apple hardware is the norm, no? | 18:32 |
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| topsub | that new one thats out.. | 18:33 |
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| perlmonkey2 | for the good stuff | 18:33 |
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| topsub | that very thin one | 18:33 |
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| perlmonkey2 | the air starts at 1800 I think | 18:33 |
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| topsub | SSD in it | 18:33 |
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| perlmonkey2 | but to put the fun stuff in it, I think 3K | 18:33 |
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| topsub | lol ya | 18:33 |
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| perlmonkey2 | and it woudl still be slower than my $800 dell :P | 18:33 |
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| perlmonkey2 | although be 18x cooler and weigh 1/20th. | 18:34 |
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| topsub | ya | 18:34 |
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| @preaction | yeah, not a fan of the Air | 18:34 |
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| topsub | maybe to just web surf | 18:34 |
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| topsub | email.. | 18:34 |
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| topsub | minor stuff | 18:34 |
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| @preaction | but a MBP for 3grand will probably get you something that'll last for a bit | 18:35 |
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| topsub | i want to start building new gaming desktop | 18:35 |
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| topsub | even tho i reallly don't need it.. i just want it.. lol | 18:35 |
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| perlmonkey2 | topsub: that is what I did and it was just a way overpriced terminal. | 18:36 |
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| perlmonkey2 | but when my laptop shows up, it will be my new super-duper server. | 18:36 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I think it was $600 for parts and then $200 more for the vid card that got to use its 3d acceleration maybe twice. | 18:37 |
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| * perlmonkey2 does it on the cheap. | 18:37 |
| topsub | ya i dropped waaay to much money on my gaming desktop | 18:37 |
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| topsub | but i also have worked from it | 18:37 |
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| topsub | think i got 2TB of space on it | 18:37 |
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| topsub | lol | 18:37 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hah, NICE | 18:37 |
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| topsub | 2 - 19s and 1 - 24 inch | 18:37 |
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| perlmonkey2 | wow, that sounds like the way to go. | 18:38 |
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| topsub | wouldn't mind my new rig having 4 widescreens | 18:38 |
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| topsub | or something crazy | 18:38 |
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| topsub | it is very helpfull when coding | 18:38 |
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| topsub | having all that desktop space | 18:38 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I've only used two monitors before and just found I put all my email/IM/web on one screen and work on the other. | 18:39 |
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| topsub | email / im one screen.. | coding programing in one | web browser other | 18:41 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: martin * r5997 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.5.2-7.5.3.pl: Fixed upgrade script. | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: martin * r5998 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: - Changed Cash plugin to use processTransaction | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: - Added (as of yet empty) notification templates | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: - Fixed a typo in sendNotification | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: graham * r5999 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetBranch.pm): | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: fixed: edit branch sends thread notifications | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: fixed: changing style template with edit branch creates new revisions of assets that have no style template | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: graham * r6000 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 2 dirs): | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: fixed: Wiki attachments uploaded by non-Content Managers deleted by maintenance workflow | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: fixed: Non-Content managers unable to paste assets even with edit privileges | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: graham * r6001 /WebGUI/ (16 files in 10 dirs): | 18:52 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: use UTF8 JSON encoding and decoding universally | 18:53 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: fixed: Import/Export of packages with international text is broken | 18:53 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: graham * r6002 /WebGUI/docs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed: CS rating links are exposed to site spiders | 18:53 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: graham * r6003 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): improved behavior of CS mail message filtering | 18:53 |
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| CIA-22 | WebGUI: jt * r6004 /translations/Spanish/ (4 files in 2 dirs): update_from_translation_server | 18:53 |
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| perlmonkey2 | JT knows Spanish? | 18:53 |
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| @preaction | no | 18:53 |
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| @preaction | not that i know of | 18:53 |
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| @preaction | JT is the one logged into SVN for the translation server | 18:53 |
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| perlmonkey2 | oh | 18:53 |
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| @preaction | which isn't fair for our ohloh stats | 18:54 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hahahahahahaha, that is EXACTLY what I was thinking :P | 18:54 |
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| BartJol | what, I don't know ohloh stats, but I'm sure I'm missing them too | 18:56 |
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| @preaction | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/103/contributors | 18:57 |
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| BartJol | well with almost every week a translation submission I might show on that list | 18:58 |
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| BartJol | darn | 18:59 |
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| BartJol | then I'm going home, bye | 18:59 |
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| d214 | i am the webmaster at a large school district in IL. i am trying to set up a demo as proof that this is the CMS we want. I have done several page layouts and sql reports but i am now stuck on a sqlreport connecting to a ms sql server. | 19:11 |
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| d214 | i believe freetds is installed on the server but i keep getting the error Cannot connect to database | 19:11 |
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| d214 | i have create a local odbc connection fine so i know my username and password work | 19:12 |
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| d214 | i am not sure why the database link does not | 19:12 |
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| d214 | DBI:Sybase:[server=virtual-sql][database=master] | 19:12 |
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| d214 | can anyone help? | 19:12 |
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| @preaction | d214, if you're the person who was in here before, the [] isn't supposed to be here | 19:13 |
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| d214 | when i remove the [] i get a blank page with nothing | 19:13 |
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| d214 | what separates the server and db in the DSN line then | 19:14 |
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| d214 | what needs to be on the server for ODBC | 19:25 |
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| topsub | semi colons d214 | 19:27 |
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| topsub | if i remember | 19:27 |
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| topsub | DBI:Sybase:server=virtual-sql;database=master | 19:27 |
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| topsub | think one at the end also, not sure | 19:28 |
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| d214 | DBI:Sybase:server=virtual-sql;database=master; | 19:29 |
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| d214 | returns a blank page | 19:29 |
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| d214 | not even an error message or debuging | 19:29 |
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| topsub | look in the log | 19:30 |
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| topsub | look here - /var/wre/logs/webgui.log | 19:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | All answers are in /var/wre/log/webgui.log | 19:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | unless they're in the apache error log | 19:43 |
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| @preaction | d214, i was wrong when I asked you to use ODBC, Sybase is what you want | 19:43 |
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| @preaction | d214, if you get a blank page, you need to check the error log | 19:43 |
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| d214 | apache error log or the webgui | 19:44 |
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| @preaction | webgui error log most likely | 19:44 |
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| @preaction | d214, http://webgui.pastebin.com <- if you paste the last hundred lines or so to that address we'll be able to see it and help you | 19:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: On your dev box can you duplicate the failing company macro test? | 19:53 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, no | 19:56 |
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| d214 | sent the log but there is nothing for today other then a differnt log when i was testing changing a db link that worked | 20:01 |
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| @preaction | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m7dc7f0fa <- you should probably change your log level to something higher than ERROR | 20:02 |
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| @preaction | DEBUG or INFO would be good | 20:03 |
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| @preaction | edit WebGUI/etc/log.conf | 20:03 |
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| d214 | does it need to be restarted to take effect | 20:10 |
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| @preaction | yes | 20:21 |
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| SynQ | perlbot tell | 21:01 |
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| SynQ | can I let perlbot say things | 21:02 |
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| SynQ | !perlbot help | 21:02 |
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| @preaction | perlbot tell synq about keywords | 21:04 |
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| SynQ | I see | 21:05 |
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| SynQ | perlbot is not allowed to respond to my questions | 21:05 |
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| SynQ | http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/irc | 21:05 |
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| SynQ | ok, dinner! | 21:05 |
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| dummy | Hello, I want to use XUL, xForms, xEvents, XHTML 2, WebForms 2, CSS 3 or some other new technology to create the website. Can you please tell me about any such available and cross-browser technology? It must work at least with the rendering engine of Opera and with GECKO. | 21:53 |
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| @preaction | uh... what do you mean? | 21:53 |
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| dummy | preaction, I'm asking you about any working new web technology | 21:56 |
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| dummy | ...or at least "new" one | 21:56 |
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| @preaction | most of CSS3 isn't near CR status yet. I didn't know xForms or xEvents or XHTML2 or WebForms2 were either | 21:57 |
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| @preaction | i guess my question is how does this pertain to WebGUI? | 21:57 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: jt * r6005 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/ (9 files in 6 dirs): ems user experience mostly done | 21:58 |
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| d214 | preaction - restarted and posted new log. looks like something is odd with spectre | 22:00 |
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| @preaction | d214, what's the link to the pastebin you created? | 22:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2: what's your dev environment look like? | 22:00 |
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| d214 | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m34aec54 | 22:01 |
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| perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: My desktop is Fedora 8, where I open up a terminal with 5 screens connected to my Cent5.1 server. Open up mysql admin/querybrowser to the survey, and keep two tabs in firefox (with firestarter open) in the webgui instance, one window on the survey and the other in the assets. | 22:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 22:03 |
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| perlmonkey2 | that is how I dev. | 22:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | definitely gonig to ping you on this YUI stuff | 22:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | but after the product stuff is done | 22:03 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I guess the env, is just a month old svn snapshot of wg, on a cent 5.1 serve.r | 22:03 |
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| d214 | when i click run on the workflow all i get is error on the next page | 22:04 |
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| perlmonkey2 | perlDreamer: please do. But the secret sauce to my JS dev is firestarter. I don't know how I did JS dev without it. | 22:05 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I mean firebug | 22:05 |
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| perlmonkey2 | not firestarter | 22:05 |
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| perlmonkey2 | that is a iptables gui :P | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | Drew Barrymore vs Mitchell Baker | 22:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 22:06 |
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| @preaction | d214, your SyncProfilesToLDAP isn't compiling for some reason. have you run testEnvironment.pl? | 22:07 |
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| d214 | not that i am aware of, where is it | 22:09 |
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| @preaction | WebGUI/sbin | 22:09 |
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| @preaction | if you're running the WRE you probably don't need it | 22:09 |
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| d214 | posted it, http://webgui.pastebin.com/m19f8d8d7 | 22:11 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I just bought 5,000 shares of Clinton to win the Penn primary at $8/contract (good contracts worth $10). | 22:12 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I hope that wasn't a stupid thing to do. | 22:12 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I mean 500 contracts, not 5000. | 22:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | heh | 22:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | (this is with Intrade's play money) :P | 22:13 |
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| Samus_Aran | does WebGUI have a method of support for pages in multiple languages ? | 22:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | No | 22:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | No multilingual content, only labeling and editing interfaces are i18n'ed | 22:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | but if you look in the wiki and the forums, you'll see how people have done it in WebGUI | 22:15 |
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| Samus_Aran | darn. would be neat if content could have alternate versions | 22:15 |
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| Samus_Aran | thank you | 22:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | RFEs (and patches) are always welcome | 22:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | you're not the first person to ask for this | 22:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | if enough people start asking, then JT will start thinking about it | 22:16 |
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| dapperedodo | There are enough tricks to buld multilangual sites | 22:18 |
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| dapperedodo | You could rebuild the entire site in an alternate root | 22:18 |
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| Samus_Aran | perlDreamer: I will submit an RFE, or add a comment on an existing one then | 22:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | In the meantime, Samus_Aran, the multiple root trick that dapperedodo mentioned works well | 22:19 |
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| @preaction | d214, you need to run testEnvironment.pl as root so it can install all those dependencies for you | 22:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | you basically copy and paste your site into a new root using the Asset Manager | 22:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | then translate that "branch" of the site | 22:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | Syncing the two sites has to be done manually | 22:19 |
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| @preaction | d214, also, if you're using a source install, I would seriously reconsider moving to the WRE. source installs are not for the faint of heart | 22:20 |
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| Samus_Aran | dapperedodo: the way I visualise it is all Assets can have multiple versions, with a set tag such as -en or -fr. if a tag in the alternate form doesn't exist, it would use the default named Asset | 22:22 |
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| Samus_Aran | that way you can add new images as needed, the rest falling back | 22:22 |
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| Samus_Aran | if you moved content around, the translation would follow | 22:22 |
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| @preaction | but those assets wouldn't have the same URL or asset ID | 22:24 |
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| @preaction | the way i've been seeing it is an assetTranslation table with <assetId> <revisionDate> <language> <propertyName> <translatedValue> | 22:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction, that's by design. Another design would look at the user's language pref's, choose the best language and then present that content to the user | 22:24 |
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| @preaction | then asset->get would get the correct content based on the user's preference | 22:25 |
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| dapperedodo | The mutilanguage option is indeed good for the pictures. But in my projects that was always a minor issue. You just copy the asset enad start translating. The translating is the biggest job. | 22:25 |
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| @preaction | i like this way because it could be done as a mixin instead of having to make all assets aware of multi-language by default | 22:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | I was thinking it would be done in new, rather than get since it's tied to a particular session | 22:25 |
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| Samus_Aran | it would be nice also if it would read the browser's default language setting, if set | 22:26 |
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| dapperedodo | You do not always want to see the language of your preference, and that is only true for Registered users | 22:27 |
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| dapperedodo | Also fro google you want different langages in different urls | 22:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | I didn't even think about the google and the search engines | 22:29 |
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| @preaction | also there's the Alternate HTTP header you'll probably want to send for those languages | 22:29 |
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| @preaction | so there will need to be some way to get at other translations via URL | 22:29 |
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| @preaction | ?lang=en perhaps? | 22:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, I guess that's why I fix bugs and write tests rather than building CMSes :) | 22:30 |
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| dapperedodo | you can do it with a form param, but it is ugly. | 22:30 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, there are days where i would prefer just some nice bugs or something new to test... | 22:30 |
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| @preaction | dapperedodo, how so? | 22:30 |
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| dapperedodo | That's why I never did an RFE for multilanguage:) | 22:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | There are CMSes that do multilanguage. Have we looked at them? | 22:31 |
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| dapperedodo | The ?lang=en thing is ugly | 22:31 |
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| dapperedodo | They mostly do the ?lang=en thing | 22:31 |
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| @preaction | this can't be worse than character encodings... i've been working two days on finding a way to fix character encodings because the newest WebGUI Beta forces UTF-8 for all mysql connections | 22:31 |
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| dapperedodo | I always make two roots | 22:31 |
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| @preaction | dapperedodo, why is that ugly? what could be done to avoid it? | 22:31 |
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| @preaction | is it just personal preference that makes it ugly? | 22:32 |
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| @preaction | or is there some good reason? | 22:32 |
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| dapperedodo | one is like /home and the other /en/home | 22:32 |
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| @preaction | theoretically, with URL handlers or Content handlers or somesuch you could translate /en/home to /home?lang=en | 22:32 |
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| dapperedodo | The url rewriting of webgui is done for a very good reason. Gppgle likes it. | 22:32 |
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| dapperedodo | of course you can also rewrite it:) | 22:33 |
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| @preaction | yeah, but as you said, webgui exists so we don't have to do rewrite rules | 22:36 |
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| dapperedodo | so you don't want an extra ?lang=en in yoururls and build the rewriting already in WebGUI | 22:38 |
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| d214 | preaction, i believe i am running wre how can i tell | 22:40 |
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| Samus_Aran | you could also do sub-domains, www.foo.com for default language, es.foo.com for Spanish, fr.foo.com for French, etc. | 22:41 |
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| Samus_Aran | and fall back to content not translated on the original | 22:41 |
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| Samus_Aran | or support all three methods mentioned and let the user pick one. internally they would all be using the same code anyway | 22:42 |
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| Samus_Aran | just a different URL | 22:42 |
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| dapperedodo | The fall back thing is a good reason you want the multilanguage option in WebGUI. There is no trick I could think of that would do that trick in the existing WebGUI | 22:43 |
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| @preaction | i'm saying that ?lang=en is the default method. then we build a URL handler that handles, say ^/lang:([^/]+)/ and sets the session language to that (it doesn't rewrite the URL at all) | 22:44 |
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| @preaction | so if someone wants, they can change their config to add that URL handler and have different sections of the site with different languages liike that | 22:44 |
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| @preaction | but all the URLs in the assetData table will NOT have any lang:en or lang:es in the beginning of them | 22:45 |
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| @preaction | the end result is the same as rewriting, but it's more elegant | 22:45 |
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| dapperedodo | I can see your point. | 22:45 |
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| @preaction | there's another way we could do it: having multiple versions of an asset in the tree, but hiding all the ones that don't match the user's language preference | 22:46 |
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| @preaction | so we have two assets with URLs thing-en and thing-es, and both are on the page "things". going to "things" will show me thing-en (because i have en in my prefs), but will show someone else thing-es because that's what they have) | 22:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | I think that idea has been proposed before, and rejected by JT due to concerns with speed. | 22:48 |
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| @preaction | which one? | 22:48 |
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| @preaction | the multiple assets one? | 22:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes, your last suggestion | 22:49 |
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| @preaction | yeah, i don't like it either | 22:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't remember the details, though | 22:49 |
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| @preaction | i like my /lang:en/ one | 22:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe the xdanger archives would be a good place to look | 22:49 |
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| d214 | preaction, do all have to be installed | 23:07 |
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| @preaction | d214, yes | 23:07 |
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| @preaction | that's what testEnvironment.pl is for | 23:07 |
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| d214 | i get errors on a few | 23:07 |
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| @preaction | then you have to force install them | 23:07 |
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| d214 | how | 23:07 |
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| @preaction | perlbot life with cpan | 23:08 |
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| perlbot | Information pertaining to the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) can be found at http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/ | 23:08 |
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| @preaction | open the cpan shell and do "force install Module" | 23:08 |
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| @preaction | have you considered using the WRE yet? | 23:09 |
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| d214 | i thought i was using it. how can i tell | 23:09 |
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| @preaction | does /data/wre exist? | 23:09 |
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| @preaction | is that where you put it? | 23:09 |
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| d214 | yes | 23:10 |
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| @preaction | then what probably is wrong is that you aren't using the WRE's environment when you're running testEnvironment.pl | 23:10 |
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| @preaction | do . /data/wre/sbin/setenvironment.sh (that's dot, space, slash) | 23:11 |
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| d214 | done. now wha | 23:12 |
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| d214 | whaty | 23:12 |
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| d214 | sorry what | 23:12 |
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| @preaction | now you can do whatever it was you were doing that wasn't working | 23:13 |
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| @preaction | like testEnvironment.pl | 23:13 |
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| @preaction | but since you're using the WRE, testEnvironment.pl will probably pass | 23:13 |
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| d214 | yes it passed | 23:15 |
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| d214 | still get SyncProfilesToLdap.pm error in the log | 23:18 |
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| d214 | how is that related to a db link? | 23:18 |
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| @preaction | it's not | 23:22 |
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| d214 | ok so how do i debug the syncprofilestoldap, no running workflows and my blank sql report page | 23:23 |
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| d214 | have to run for the day. thanks for the help but i am sure i will be stuck tomorrow | 23:26 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: graham * r6008 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fixed: Syndicated Content asset tries too hard to get URLs returning errors | 00:10 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: graham * r6009 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Event.pm): fixed: Event related links truncated on dashes | 00:10 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: graham * r6010 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/ (changelog/7.x.x.txt upgrades/upgrade_7.4.30-7.4.31.pl): added: Database index on userSession.expires field to speed up workflows | 00:10 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: graham * r6011 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed: Collaboration System attachments follow site's max size instead of CS's | 00:10 |
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| @preaction | holy hell | 00:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, Haarg is busting them up | 00:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | The bug list is down to 6 entries | 00:13 |
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| @Haarg | that's another merging | 00:14 |
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| @Haarg | those were all already fixed in 7.5 | 00:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | still, it's a ton of good work | 00:15 |
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| cap10morgan | can you add an asset to the list using the config file overrides? | 00:39 |
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| cap10morgan | or would you need to put the whole list in there and add your asset to it? | 00:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | If by list you mean the admin console? | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | the yes, the config file is used to set some of the things in the admin bar | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | Also, prototypes are listed in the admin bar | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | the config file settings are called "assets" and "assetContainers" | 00:52 |
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| cap10morgan | yeah, the admin console | 00:52 |
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| cap10morgan | so i need to put in the whole "assets" section i want in my new sites' config files, right? | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | right, the whole thing | 00:53 |
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| cap10morgan | ok, thanks pD | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | no problem | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | How's the OpenID? | 00:53 |
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| cap10morgan | oh, good question :) | 00:53 |
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| cap10morgan | we should check on that perl library again | 00:53 |
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| cap10morgan | we were waiting on them to get updated to openid 2.0 | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | That's probably a good idea, given the recent JSON fiasco :) | 00:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | There were some people in here about a week ago asking about single sign on, but I think they were really thinking LDAP integration. | 00:54 |
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| cap10morgan | heh, yeah, wouldn't want that right out of the gate | 00:54 |
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| cap10morgan | oh yeah | 00:54 |
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| cap10morgan | the thing i'm really excited about is making webgui an openid provider | 00:54 |
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| cap10morgan | so then w/ ldap integration | 00:55 |
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| cap10morgan | it can expose your ldap users as openids | 00:55 |
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| cap10morgan | which would be sweet | 00:55 |
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| cap10morgan | ldap -> web-wide sso. mmmmm... tasty. | 00:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | just write lots of tests for it :) | 01:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | Does anyone in the channel use Product Assets on their site? Note, it's only related to the Commerce System, so if you're using the Product macro it probably isn't the same thing. | 01:18 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 15:55 |
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| @rizen | MrHairGrease: one thing about payments...no hand building XML this time. Use XML::Simple instead | 17:01 |
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| +MrHairgrease | already did that | 17:01 |
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| @rizen | k | 17:01 |
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| @rizen | you rock | 17:01 |
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| +MrHairgrease | indeed | 17:01 |
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| +MrHairgrease | =) | 17:02 |
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| @rizen | jfluhmann: how many people will be at your texasoss.org conference? | 17:02 |
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| @rizen | nuba: how is the maps thing coming along? will it be done by the May 31st deadline for 7.5 | 17:02 |
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| * perlmonkey2 is finding the logic to determine the next question(s) in the survey with sections, randomizing, jumping, user set questions per page, to be near impossible without making like 15 DB calls. I'll be seriously put out if this turns out not to be fast enough for an AJAX app :P | 17:06 |
| @rizen | it will be fast enough | 17:06 |
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| @rizen | perlmonkey2: the key is order of operations | 17:06 |
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| @rizen | determine what you can eliminate first in your lookup strategy | 17:07 |
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| @rizen | with a good logic structure, you can usually knock out more than half of the logic (and therefore lookups) | 17:08 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I think I'm pegging my brain's CPU in deteremining the logic code. | 17:10 |
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| perlmonkey2 | err, next question logic's code. | 17:10 |
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| @rizen | ok step back | 17:13 |
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| @rizen | get out an old fashioned piece of paper and a pencil | 17:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I think I'm going to make a rule that an answer can not have a jump to a randomized section. | 17:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Great minds think alike :) Right above my code is text walking through all the logic. | 17:14 |
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| @rizen | write down the different cases of how you can determine the next question, without caring about the relationship of how to get there | 17:14 |
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| @rizen | this works even easier if you have a flow charting program like dia, visio, or omnigraffle | 17:15 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I think I've gone through all permutations, but I'm trying to A, expedite getting this done while B, not duplicating all my code. | 17:15 |
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| @rizen | then draw lines to represent the logic structure | 17:16 |
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| @rizen | then sort out the spaghetti | 17:16 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hah | 17:16 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I'll give that a go....Always fun to use Dia. | 17:16 |
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| @rizen | don't worry about code duplication. after you get it figured out you can always refactor the code into a bunch of subroutines | 17:17 |
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| perlmonkey2 | premature optimization.....the bane of my existence. | 17:17 |
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| perlmonkey2 | okay....I'll try putting together some dia-grams and see if that helps me organize the code. | 17:17 |
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| perlmonkey2 | :) | 17:18 |
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| perlmonkey2 | well....not organize, but figure out the logic. | 17:18 |
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| @rizen | no problem is to large if you break it into small enough pieces | 17:18 |
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| @rizen | s/to/too/ | 17:18 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Will be sad if my grant ends up having to use Surveymonkey, while paying me quite a bit of on the clock time for this survey. | 17:19 |
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| @rizen | why would they end up using survey monkey? | 17:51 |
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| perlmonkey2 | They have a go live date coming up next Momnday | 17:51 |
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| perlmonkey2 | if I can get *(something* working by tomorrow, they'll be testing and building surveys all weekend. | 17:52 |
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| perlmonkey2 | if not, they'll have to go with surveymonkey | 17:52 |
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| @rizen | so why not just get it working? | 17:52 |
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| @rizen | do they really need random and everythign? | 17:52 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hah, I'm working 12-14 hours a day since last wed to do that. | 17:52 |
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| @rizen | why not give them a build that gives them only wht they need | 17:52 |
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| @rizen | and then add the rest later | 17:52 |
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| perlmonkey2 | they wanted everything | 17:52 |
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| @rizen | i didn't say want | 17:52 |
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| @rizen | i said NEED | 17:52 |
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| @rizen | for this weekend | 17:53 |
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| @rizen | for this survey | 17:53 |
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| perlmonkey2 | but I am close....and I am cutting out a lot of stuff | 17:53 |
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| @rizen | what do they need | 17:53 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I don't know. I understood it to be everything | 17:53 |
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| perlmonkey2 | they already have a ton of extremely expensive closed source tools that don't do what they want. | 17:53 |
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| @rizen | i don't know is never a valid answer. | 17:53 |
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| @rizen | the answer is "i'll find out" | 17:54 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I'll see what I can find out.....hopefully pear down the number of questions I need to implement | 17:55 |
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| @rizen | incidentally, if you don't want my advice on this stuff, feel free to tell me to shut the hell up. =) | 18:00 |
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| +MrHairgrease | rizen: what's the method to fetch the recur period from an item? | 18:03 |
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| +MrHairgrease | if there is such a thing | 18:03 |
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| @rizen | we need to add that to Sku | 18:04 |
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| @rizen | i didn't add any interface methods for recurring stuff except isRecurring | 18:04 |
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| @rizen | call it getRecurInterval | 18:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | ok | 18:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | another thing | 18:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | TransactionItem doen't store isRecurring and recurInterval | 18:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | I guess it should | 18:05 |
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| @rizen | why should it? | 18:06 |
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| @rizen | doesn't the payment gateway do the recurrence? | 18:06 |
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| @rizen | it does a postback on the interval, right? | 18:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | b/c you want to be able to check if a transaction item recurring payment is due | 18:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | it does | 18:07 |
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| perlmonkey2 | rizen: no, I really appreciate your advice. The only software developers I have to sanity check myself are on IRC. All of my dev friends IRL are MS whores, there isn't one other software developer in myh building, let alone on my grant. The only place to talk shop is IRC. | 18:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but as it is it stores that in the ITransact_recurring table | 18:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | or simething like that | 18:07 |
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| @rizen | fair enough. feel free to add those to the transaction item then | 18:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | ok | 18:07 |
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| elnino | hi | 18:42 |
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| elnino | since the upgrades I've made to 7.4.26, My user can't "change URL" when they are in asset manager. Any particular setting they need to have to be able to do this? | 18:42 |
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| elnino | Ah. I found out they have to be a guru. (process of elimination) any particlur place I can change this so they can do it at an "expert" level? | 18:44 |
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| bopbop | el nino: go to the user's user profile- you'll see the UI field towards the bottom- change to 9 | 18:47 |
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| elnino | right, I don't want them to be an guru, I want them to be an expert, but still be able to change the url as they were able to do before I upgraded. Is there a way to change this? | 18:48 |
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| bopbop | ah, I see... | 18:49 |
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| bopbop | Haarg: do you know? | 18:49 |
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| @Haarg | there may be a config setting for it, i don't remember offhand | 18:50 |
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| +MrHairgrease | you can do it in the webgui.conf | 18:50 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but you'll have to do it per asset | 18:50 |
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| bopbop | el nino: try looking in the Permissions tab of Settings... | 18:50 |
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| bopbop | nope, nevermind :) | 18:50 |
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| +MrHairgrease | basically you do this: | 18:51 |
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| @rizen | that won't work for the change url function mrhairgrease | 18:51 |
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| @rizen | that's only for asset properties | 18:51 |
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| +MrHairgrease | "WebGUI_Asset_Wobject_Article_uiLevel" : { "url" : level# } | 18:51 |
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| @rizen | he's talking about the "Change URL" menu function i think | 18:51 |
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| elnino | yep | 18:52 |
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| +MrHairgrease | what is that? | 18:52 |
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| @rizen | elnino: are you a guy or a girl? elnino sounds like a guy, but on the site i see your name is "lauren" or something like that | 18:52 |
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| elnino | when you go into assets of an asset or wobject, you can change the url of that assett/wobject permanantly (and erase all previous urls it may have had) | 18:53 |
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| +MrHairgrease | yeah, I just found it | 18:53 |
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| +MrHairgrease | nice | 18:54 |
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| +MrHairgrease | didn't know webgui could do thta =) | 18:54 |
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| @rizen | it's a somewhat dangerous function | 18:54 |
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| @rizen | because it gets rid of all the old revisions | 18:54 |
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| @rizen | but it's also highly useful | 18:55 |
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| +MrHairgrease | what about the assetToolbarUiLevel options then? | 18:55 |
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| elnino | yes, but it's a nice feature. | 18:55 |
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| elnino | don't get rid of it. | 18:55 |
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| +MrHairgrease | "changeUrl" : 9 | 18:55 |
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| elnino | please | 18:55 |
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| @rizen | i'm not thinking of getting rid of it | 18:55 |
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| @rizen | that would work mrhairgrease...i forgot that existed | 18:56 |
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| elnino | perfect thanks. | 18:56 |
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| elnino | rizen - to answer your question: wondering when someone as going to ask. depends on translation. I'm female. No hurt feelings here. I liked the anonymousity I had. =) shh. | 18:56 |
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| +MrHairgrease | just set the number to the correct level and restart | 18:56 |
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| @rizen | elnino: now it's a secret between the 25 of us. =) | 18:57 |
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| topsub | lol | 19:03 |
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| bopbop | perlDreamer: I'm editing your dev chapter, and I think a word is missing in the first part of this sentence: When the test, the contents of $TODO will be appended to the test comment and the test will be counted as passing. | 19:09 |
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| bopbop | runs, completes...? | 19:09 |
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| bopbop | can you fill in a blank for me/ | 19:09 |
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| @preaction | runs | 19:10 |
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| bopbop | thanks | 19:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | runs | 19:10 |
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| bopbop | thanks to you too:) | 19:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's the crying part that we discussed earlier | 19:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | Hopefully soon you'll get to the laughing part | 19:10 |
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| bopbop | I remember.. | 19:10 |
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| @preaction | you'll laugh? you'll cry? you'll eat humble pie? | 19:10 |
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| bopbop | I'm enjoying the hotdog-hamburger-pizza scenarios | 19:10 |
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| @preaction | when does she get to the pie? | 19:10 |
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| bopbop | can relate | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | No pie, bad for the kids' teeth | 19:11 |
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| bopbop | wouldn't make wife happy | 19:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | I used a family motif for all my test examples | 19:11 |
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| +MrHairgrease | i usually use beer motifs | 19:11 |
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| +MrHairgrease | talking of which | 19:12 |
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| +MrHairgrease | it's time to go home | 19:12 |
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| +MrHairgrease | later | 19:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction: If you like, I can send you the raw, needing edits copy when I get home. | 19:18 |
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| @preaction | no need, i've still gotta finish my chapter. it needs more input | 19:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | cat /dev/null > preaction/chapter | 19:19 |
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| @preaction | i wish | 19:19 |
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| @preaction | wait. don't you mean cat /dev/random > ~/chapter? | 19:19 |
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| @preaction | you can't read from /dev/null can you? | 19:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 19:20 |
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| @preaction | but it's null. | 19:20 |
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| @preaction | it's not 0 or random or | 19:20 |
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| SquOnk | rizen: Hi | 19:20 |
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| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: rizen is busy hacking. Do you need some help or want to volunteer some help? | 19:21 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: I've been working to create webgui's Debian package. I uploaded 7.4.28 on my private repository last week, and just uploaded 7.4.31 after testing the automatic upgrades... | 19:22 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: ...so I wanted to let him know that it was going ok and we'll soon see webgui being included as an official Debian package. | 19:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | cool. We really appreciate you doing that. | 19:22 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: The package is up for download in my private repository (http://itverx.com.ve/debian/pool/main/w/webgui/webgui_7.4.31-1_all.deb | 19:23 |
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| SquOnk | (Debian users can use http://itverx.com.ve/debian directly, of course) | 19:23 |
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| elnino | hmmm. looking at surveys some more, sequencitla ordering of questions does it by the order of creating the questions, is there a way to get it to present them in the order that I ordered them using the arrows? | 19:27 |
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| SquOnk | The packages are for Debian Sid. I will backport to Debian Etch in three weeks time. | 19:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | We're probably going to find ourselves awash in new users soon, then :) | 19:30 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: That's the idea... | 19:31 |
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| @rizen | SquOnk: nice job | 19:31 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: martin * r6030 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/lib/WebGUI/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Adding the ITransact driver. Partly finished, not yet tested, but compiles. | 19:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | Is this like an unwrapped WRE, then, using Debian's native packages and new requirements? | 19:32 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: After you do aptitude install webgui | 19:32 |
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| @rizen | sorry i didn't answer you before. i'm trying to limit my irc reading to specific intervals rather than doing it interactively so i can finish up the commerce system | 19:32 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: You get a WebGUI install that complies with Debian Policy. | 19:32 |
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| elnino | yeah new users!! | 19:32 |
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| SquOnk | Briefly: | 19:32 |
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| SquOnk | You have modules in /usr/share/webgui | 19:33 |
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| SquOnk | You have the 'uploads', 'extras' and additional variable stuff in /var/lib/wegui | 19:33 |
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| SquOnk | You have logfiles in /var/log/webgui with _automatic_ rotation enabled. | 19:33 |
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| SquOnk | You get configuration files in /etc/webgui | 19:33 |
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| SquOnk | You get a standard Apache configuration that you simply have to symlink in place. | 19:33 |
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| SquOnk | You get /etc/init.d/webgui to start/stop/check on Spectre. | 19:34 |
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| SquOnk | In the current version, you must create the database by hand and/or run the upgrades script if needed. | 19:34 |
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| SquOnk | Once the package is approved, I will add debconf/dbconfig support; these are Debian tools to ask the user for configuration parameters and handle databases. | 19:35 |
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| SquOnk | From then on, when you do aptitude install webgui, it will ask you how do you want your webgui database to be named, user, password, server, etc. and the configuration file will be generated on the fly. If you _upgrade_ the package afterwards, those parameters are _automatically_ taken into account. | 19:35 |
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| SquOnk | debconf can use the console (line oriented), full-screen (curses oriented) or GUI interfaces, so it will choose the appropiate mean to communicate with the user regardless of where she's working at the time of install. | 19:36 |
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| SquOnk | I also plan on adding automatic upgrade facilites, by automatically running the upgrade scripts. | 19:37 |
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| SquOnk | The sbin scripts have been integrated into the system, so you don't have to say /usr/share/webgui/sbin/testEnvironment.pl, but simply wg_testEnvironment | 19:37 |
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| SquOnk | I am writing manpages for the sbin scripts (I'll send them once finished). Having manpages for supporting scripts is mandatory for any Debian package... | 19:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | most of the sbin scripts have POD or online usage statements (--help), that should give you a semi-decent start | 19:39 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: That's what I'm using. | 19:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | if they all used POD, would that help with future updates? | 19:39 |
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| elnino | what does "no route to host" mean when trying to connect to a proxy site? | 19:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | then you could just run pod2man instead of writing the *roff by hand | 19:40 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Yes, as long as pod2man gets them out cleanly and no sections are missing Debian policy-wise. | 19:40 |
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| @preaction | there's a pod2man or somesuch probably | 19:40 |
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| @preaction | elnino, it means the proxy can't connect to where you want it to connect probably\ | 19:40 |
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| SquOnk | I have just one suggestion: | 19:41 |
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| SquOnk | All the sbin and upgrade scripts need to find out where WebGUI's Perl modules are, and also the configuration file... | 19:41 |
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| SquOnk | ...but they do it with things like use lib "../lib" or even WebGUI::Session->create("../..",$config) | 19:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 19:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | not very relocatable | 19:42 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Exactly | 19:42 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: I'm coping with that problem by having the source patched. It works fine, but it would _definitely_ be nice if that was also parameterized. | 19:43 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Same thing goes with the mod_perl preload script | 19:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | SquOnk: We have the same problem with the test suite (which doesn't need to be installed by default, b.t.w). Do you have suggestions for making it better? | 19:44 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: I'm thinking of a good one... so far I've came up with having a single WebGUI::Configuration module exporting $webGUIroot or something... | 19:45 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: So there's only one thing to locate :-) | 19:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | ah, but where do you put WebGUI::Configuration? Is it /usr/lib/perl5... ? | 19:45 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: That's a packaging question, so each distribution will choose the appropiate place. The first step is having a relocatable application by means of a parameterized application root. | 19:46 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Another thing, mostly cosmetic (but also along Debian Polciy) is that most of the scripts don't have a shebang line. | 19:47 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: But I understand the reasoning for that, since your application could run on different OSes with Perl installed "who knows where" | 19:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | exactly | 19:48 |
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| @preaction | #!/usr/bin/env perl <- would work | 19:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | does that work on Windows? | 19:48 |
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| SquOnk | perlDreamer: Besides, It's a simple one-liner to fix that and it happens while packaging so it's no biggie | 19:48 |
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| SquOnk | However, being consistent in the use of $webGUIroot in every script is a good step into simplifying packaging and installation. | 19:49 |
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| SquOnk | So, ponder on it for a while. If I come up with a better solution I'll let you know :-) | 19:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | It's possible that those changes could be folded into 7.5. I would make a posting to the WebGUI Dev list with all of those suggestions and ideas. | 19:50 |
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| SquOnk | I _think_ I have a solution but it scares me :-) | 19:56 |
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| SquOnk | package WebGUI::Config | 19:56 |
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| SquOnk | $main::webguiroot = '/some/path' | 19:56 |
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| SquOnk | 42; | 19:56 |
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| SquOnk | Heh | 19:56 |
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| SquOnk | Haven't tested it. It's beautiful and scary :-) | 19:56 |
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| @rizen | the scripts use webguiroot to figure out what lib to include so that it can find WebGUI::Config | 19:59 |
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| @rizen | so that wouldn't work | 19:59 |
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| jfluhmann | rizen, the texasoss.org conference has just under 60 attendees currently registered. I was hoping for ~200, but it's likely to be around 100 | 20:00 |
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| @rizen | jfluhmann: do you have any idea who your attendees are? Business owners? Students? IT Professionals? Software developers? etc? | 20:02 |
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| jfluhmann | it's a mix of students, business owners, IT professionals, K-12 and higher ed technology support | 20:05 |
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| jfluhmann | I was trying to get a good college crowd with the hopes of encouraging them to look at open source | 20:06 |
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| jfluhmann | My hope would be to encourage them to attend some of the summer conferences, such as YAPC, OSCON, and such | 20:07 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hmm....6 hour drive. | 20:07 |
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| jfluhmann | :-) There are a few people coming from Houston (~7.5 hour drive) | 20:08 |
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| @rizen | i see that you have a speaker slot open...if i can swing it would you like me to come speak? | 20:08 |
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| jfluhmann | rizen, that would be great! | 20:09 |
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| perlmonkey2 | If rizen goes, I'll have to see if I can drive down and jeer from the audience. | 20:09 |
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| jfluhmann | I believe there are a few people wanting to do something on that following Sunday | 20:09 |
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| perlmonkey2 | "perl is for lusers and webgui is so sorry i can't even run it on my $5 hoster!" | 20:10 |
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| @rizen | there's less than a 20% chance i can make it | 20:10 |
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| @rizen | so don't get your hopes up | 20:10 |
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| jfluhmann | Jeff Rush (Python) mentioned it and a few others said they could do some informal workshops/tutorials | 20:10 |
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| jfluhmann | rizen, I understand. It's a fair distance from there to here | 20:11 |
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| @rizen | that's not the issue | 20:11 |
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| @rizen | just 2 days before that i'm going to be doing another trade show | 20:11 |
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| jfluhmann | ah | 20:11 |
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| @rizen | which i'll be at for 4 days | 20:11 |
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| jfluhmann | Web 2.0? | 20:12 |
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| @rizen | so i'd have to rearrnage flights | 20:12 |
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| @rizen | and stuff | 20:12 |
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| @rizen | no, it's a manufacturers conference | 20:12 |
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| @rizen | too bad. the thing i was thinking about talking about is already covered: Making Money by Giving Things Away: Open Source as a Business Model for Technology Companies - John Wohn | 20:12 |
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| jfluhmann | ah, okay. I knew that O'Reilly's Web2.0 conference was that week. | 20:13 |
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| jfluhmann | yeah, should be an interesting talk | 20:13 |
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| @preaction | anyone here have experience with character encoding issues in mysql? i've got latin-1 data in a utf-8 column and i'm having difficulties changing that to utf-8 data in that utf-8 column in a way that will be portable and useful | 20:13 |
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| @rizen | mine would have been better. =) | 20:14 |
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| jfluhmann | rizen, :-) | 20:14 |
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| @preaction | this is due to the new 7.5.8 forcing all mysql connections to be in UTF-8, no matter how mysql is configured | 20:14 |
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| @rizen | preaction: i have problems with it all the time, but have no solutions | 20:14 |
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| @rizen | but you should talk to Haarg, cuz he's spending all day on this very topic | 20:14 |
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| perlmonkey2 | preaction: have you tried pulling the data back down to perl, forcing and encode to latin-1, then encoding back to utf8? | 20:15 |
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| perlmonkey2 | preaction: but that will likely be lossy as any latin-1 chars that don't fit nicely into utf8 will be munged. | 20:15 |
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| @preaction | for some reason, reading the data out during a Latin-1 connection and writing it back in a UTF-8 connection (no re-encoding) works | 20:15 |
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| @preaction | but I can only do that if I use key columns as references, which I can't rely on | 20:15 |
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| @preaction | i suppose i could make a temporary auto-increment column | 20:15 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, tried that. i don't know why it didn't work, that was my first guess | 20:16 |
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| @preaction | basically i'm asking around because i'm tired of poking in the dark. i'd rather know what the hell is going on, even though that will take longer than just pushing through the hacky solution i have | 20:18 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Mighten the damage already be done if you have latin-1 data in a utf8 column? any latin-1 chars that don't have the exact same codespace in both encodings will already be fudged. | 20:18 |
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| perlmonkey2 | preaction: ask aroudn on #perl.....lots of encoding gurus there. | 20:19 |
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| @preaction | perlmonkey2, i thought of that, but why then does the data read out right when I use a latin-1 connection? | 20:19 |
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| @preaction | and, why does it convert when I write the same character data back using a utf-8 connection? | 20:19 |
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| perlmonkey2 | sounds like something under the hood is doing a lot of leg work for you. | 20:20 |
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| perlmonkey2 | DBI? | 20:20 |
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| perlmonkey2 | maybe mysql? | 20:20 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I never understood how that worked as it seems like it would require some sort of heuristic to determine encodings. | 20:20 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Encoding::Magic | 20:20 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hm.....Mysql{'latin1 data in utf8 encoding'}->perl{'latin1 in internalPerl econding'}->Mysql{'utf8'} is the problem, right? | 20:22 |
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| @preaction | exactly. i get that there's a difference between the binary and the character i see. i get that latin-1 means different binary for a character than utf-8. i just don't get how the hell NOT changing that encoding works but changing it just makes it worse | 20:22 |
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| perlmonkey2 | preaction: hah, welcome to my world of data mining the web...... | 20:23 |
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| @preaction | that's all i can think it would be, but let's go broader | 20:23 |
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| @preaction | the CREATE TABLE statement for my table sets the table's charset to utf8, and does not override it in the column definition | 20:24 |
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| perlmonkey2 | i woudl examine the original text for bad chars. if you don't see any, then you could (for some cases) safely call the text utf8... | 20:24 |
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| @preaction | there is bad chars, hence this whole rigamarole | 20:25 |
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| perlmonkey2 | quotations and apostrophes? | 20:25 |
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| @preaction | the character_set_client is latin1, the character_set_results is latin1, so the data being sent to clients is in latin1 | 20:25 |
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| @preaction | along with international characters | 20:25 |
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| @preaction | what if the problem wasn't mysql, but it was perl? | 20:26 |
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| @preaction | i mean, from all i've read, perl handles unicode and utf-8 silently and does the right thing | 20:26 |
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| @preaction | what if it didn't? | 20:26 |
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| perlmonkey2 | could be....save soem data as text directly from mysql, then open in file readers using different encodigs. | 20:26 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I've read nearly all of the perl utf8 docs, and I still dont' undestand how it works. | 20:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | I have a script that makes two Asset Products, and then makes a revision of one of them. | 20:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | When I look in the Products table, I see three entries | 20:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | When I try to join Product with wobject to see more data, I see 5 entries. | 20:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | Each of the entries for the asset with revisions is doubled | 20:55 |
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| +perlDreamer | this is the query that I used: | 20:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | select * from Product INNER JOIN wobject on Product.assetId=wobject.assetId; | 20:56 |
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| +MrHairgrease | don't forget the revisionDate | 20:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | why would it multiply the rows? | 20:57 |
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| +MrHairgrease | you get a copy of identical rows? | 20:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | let me try that | 20:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | I checked in the script into t/Shop/loadProduct.pl | 20:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | heh Empty set | 20:58 |
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| +MrHairgrease | let me try it on antoher table | 20:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | Run the loadProduct script to get some products to play with | 20:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | that way it's apples to apples | 20:59 |
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| +MrHairgrease | ok | 20:59 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hang on | 20:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | this is what I get: http://webgui.pastebin.com/m4db309c8 | 20:59 |
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| +MrHairgrease | updating... | 20:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2: Did you meet the Monday deadline, or are the natives restless? | 21:00 |
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| +MrHairgrease | yeah pd | 21:00 |
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| perlmonkey2 | the natives are restless and started a fire under the man sized pot. | 21:00 |
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| +MrHairgrease | it's doing all permutations | 21:00 |
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| +MrHairgrease | add the revisionDate | 21:00 |
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| +perlDreamer | that means I can use mysql as a general purpose calculator :) | 21:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | select p.assetId, p.revisionDate, w.revisionDate from Product as p JOIN wobject as w on p.assetId=w.assetId and p.revisionDate=w.revisionDate; | 21:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | better | 21:01 |
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| +MrHairgrease | that works right | 21:03 |
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| +MrHairgrease | ? | 21:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 21:03 |
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| +MrHairgrease | you have to do that b/c inner join joins every row in table a with every row in table b matching the criteria you feed it | 21:04 |
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| +MrHairgrease | and since assets are not uniquely defined by assetId, you get N results for each assetId | 21:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | is there a better join to use, or is this just part of my sql education? | 21:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | where N is the number of revisions of that asset | 21:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | N^2 | 21:05 |
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| perlmonkey2 | holy crap.....assetId doesn't uniquely define an asset? | 21:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | no | 21:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | inner is equivalent to , | 21:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | you need the revisionDate, too | 21:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | well assetId is unique for an asset | 21:06 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hmm....I'm not sure if that is a big deal with concern to my collaterals | 21:06 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but not the version of it | 21:06 |
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| +MrHairgrease | no it isn;t | 21:06 |
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| +MrHairgrease | versioning is for the asset properties | 21:06 |
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| +MrHairgrease | the crap you put in definition | 21:06 |
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| perlmonkey2 | whew.....almost had give up my license to use a keyboard. | 21:06 |
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| +MrHairgrease | colateral usually doesn't need that | 21:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | collateral isn't versioned | 21:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | lineage isn't versioned | 21:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | parentId isnt' versioned | 21:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | basically it's like this | 21:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | all the properties that are equal for each revision | 21:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | think lineage, className etc | 21:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | are in the asset table | 21:07 |
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| +MrHairgrease | that one does not have a revisionDate since it has unversionable content | 21:08 |
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| +MrHairgrease | then,, for each class 'layer' you have a seprate table which is versioned | 21:08 |
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| +MrHairgrease | thos tables contain the definition fields of the 'layers' | 21:08 |
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| +MrHairgrease | what do i mean with 'layers'? | 21:09 |
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| perlmonkey2 | ? | 21:09 |
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| +MrHairgrease | well | 21:09 |
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| +MrHairgrease | WebGUI::Asset => assetData table | 21:09 |
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| +MrHairgrease | WebGUI::Asset::Wobject => wobject table | 21:09 |
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| perlmonkey2 | oh, I see | 21:09 |
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| perlmonkey2 | that makes sense | 21:09 |
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| +MrHairgrease | WebGUI::Asset::Wobject::Article => article table | 21:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 21:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | WebGUI::Asset => assetData table (and asset table, too) | 21:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | no | 21:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | that module handles both tables | 21:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | that is for the unversionable data | 21:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | sure it does | 21:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but it's not storing the properties | 21:10 |
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| +MrHairgrease | it stores state information and hierarchy location | 21:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yes, I see your point now. | 21:12 |
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| topsub | created an accordian menu with jquery.. fun.. lol | 21:40 |
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| topsub | with an navigation object of course | 21:41 |
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| perlmonkey2 | topsub: publicly available? | 21:43 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Shoudl this: http://pastebin.com/d9a7c823 have really been so hard to write? | 21:47 |
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| perlmonkey2 | The good news is a lot of those params I'm currently hitting the db for every time can be passed to the client as hidden params, so that the next time the db queries can be skipped. | 21:51 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hmm, so table alias are not used in the keys of hash refs returned by SQL? | 22:06 |
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| perlmonkey2 | so select s.*,q.* won't work if s and q share a column name. | 22:06 |
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| perlmonkey2 | That is no gouda. | 22:06 |
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| * perlmonkey2 prepares his fingers for a whole lot of select columnName as 'uniqueCname' | 22:10 |
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| topsub | perlmonkey2, i can add it to webgui addons | 22:15 |
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| perlmonkey2 | topsub: oh, I just wanted to look at the code.....see if I liked it better than the YUI menus. | 22:16 |
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| perlmonkey2 | also curious as to what a navigation object is. | 22:16 |
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| perlmonkey2 | How about this for the hashref key issue in SQL selects. q.*, a.*, q.dupedColumnName as 'qDupedColumnName', a.dupedColumnName as 'aDupedColumnName'.....Eh? Not too shabby? | 22:18 |
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| * perlmonkey2 ponders the lengths he will go to, to not have to type out all the column names in a select. | 22:18 |
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| +MrHairgrease | perlmonkey2: it's not SQL.pm that does that | 22:39 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but rather m,ysql itself | 22:39 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Yeah, I didn't really figure it was SQL.pm, but in DBI or the specific driver. | 22:41 |
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| +MrHairgrease | no | 22:41 |
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| +MrHairgrease | it is also not in dbi | 22:41 |
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| +MrHairgrease | mysql does it | 22:41 |
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| +MrHairgrease | try the same query in the mysql client | 22:42 |
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| +MrHairgrease | putting the rows in a hash causes the overwrite | 22:42 |
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| perlmonkey2 | just tested it and you are absolutely correc.t | 22:43 |
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| +MrHairgrease | i'm not sure if you can tell mysql to return column names prepended with table name | 22:43 |
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| perlmonkey2 | oh well, easy enough to get around the duplicated column names. | 22:43 |
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| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 22:43 |
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| +MrHairgrease | that's what i do too when i have to | 22:44 |
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| perlmonkey2 | and either way beats dealing with each row as an array. | 22:44 |
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| +MrHairgrease | indeed | 22:44 |
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| metanil | if what to execute a perl script that would access files uploaded through webgui.. and this script will return HTML that should appear in the body section... any hint?? ( i already write script..but i can only execute through "Operation" ) | 22:53 |
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| topsub | perlmonkey2 i used the webgui nav object for front end nad used jquery to show / hide layers | 22:54 |
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| topsub | i am taking off home so if i see you online i will post my code for you to see | 22:54 |
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| topsub | i have enjoy jquery very lightweight | 22:54 |
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| topsub | YUI to me just has more built in functions that you have to do with jquery | 22:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlmonkey2: The Navigation Asset is a front end for templating navigations in WebGUI. You tell it which Asset to start indexing and in which directions, how deep and what kind of relatives to return. | 22:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | Anybody know who the guy adding themes to wG is? ning? | 23:02 |
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| +MrHairgrease | ning is a girl | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | Anybody know who the girl adding themes to wG is? ning? | 23:02 |
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| +MrHairgrease | and i'm not sure if she's adding stuff | 23:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | she's contributed 3 themes so far | 23:02 |
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| +MrHairgrease | yeah that's Ning | 23:03 |
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| +MrHairgrease | she works for Albert's company | 23:03 |
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| +MrHairgrease | but has a desk at Oqapi's at the momnet | 23:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | who is Albert? | 23:04 |
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| +MrHairgrease | since Oqapi and Pluton (Albert's company share office space | 23:04 |
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| +MrHairgrease | Albert is one of the three founders of Procolix | 23:04 |
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| +MrHairgrease | He was at the first two wucs | 23:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | So the original Procolix has split into 3 pieces? Procolix, Oqapi and Pluton? | 23:05 |
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| @rizen | Pluton is a testing company | 23:05 |
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| +MrHairgrease | yes | 23:05 |
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| +perlDreamer | Sounds like my kind of place :) | 23:05 |
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| @rizen | Albert is having Ning do stuff with WebGUI so she can write test cases | 23:05 |
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| @rizen | it's a training thing for her | 23:06 |
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| perlmonkey2 | bah, didn't catch my new lappy in time....it booted to windows :( | 23:07 |
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| perlmonkey2 | it has been defiled...I should just toss it. | 23:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | Just scrub that partition off the disk | 23:08 |
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| perlmonkey2 | F8 anaconda is booting now....that's what I'm about to do :) | 23:08 |
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| metanil | how do we show data from either file or database in webgui??? | 23:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | from file, import it as a File. | 23:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | for Database, use the SQL Report or the SQL Form | 23:14 |
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| metanil | at runtime? | 23:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | or the Thingy | 23:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | at runtime? what do you mean? | 23:14 |
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| metanil | mean loading file from some path | 23:14 |
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| metanil | in machine | 23:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | how does the file get there in the first place? | 23:15 |
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| metanil | :D | 23:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, let me give you a few options | 23:15 |
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| metanil | i know my question is little dumb. | 23:15 |
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| +perlDreamer | There's not enough info in the question to really help you. It's not dumb. | 23:15 |
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| metanil | yes agree :) | 23:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | If the file is made by a program, have it update a Snippet inside of WebGUI instead. | 23:16 |
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| metanil | ok here's the situation | 23:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | go ahead, metanil, I'll wait for the whole scoop :) | 23:18 |
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| metanil | i have write some "script" that would process some local file (for now)..and i'll generate some HTML from them.. i can print that HTML in console as well.. but when i return it.. i should be shown in body part | 23:18 |
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| metanil | if do directly return.. it would only show that html.. | 23:18 |
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| metanil | i use Operation .. like ?op=blahblah.. (not a good though i guess) | 23:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | No, not for this | 23:19 |
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| metanil | brb :( | 23:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | no problem | 23:19 |
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| metanil | is it a good way to do that | 23:21 |
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| metanil | ? | 23:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | no, you probably don't want to use an operation to do that | 23:21 |
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| metanil | i think opration is the best to run some method directly .. | 23:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | Here are some options to consider | 23:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | 1) Use the ^Include() macro to include your HTML into some Asset. | 23:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | 2) Change your script to insert the HTML into a db, and use the SQL macro, or the SQL Report to pull it out of the db and display it. | 23:22 |
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| +perlDreamer | 3) Change your script to add new versions to a Snippet inside of WebGUI. | 23:23 |
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| metanil | 2) --> thats why i ask question about db.. thinking about putting them into db.. | 23:23 |
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| metanil | ok.. sounds great.. | 23:23 |
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| +perlDreamer | But where does the original file come from? | 23:23 |
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| metanil | i put it locally for now. | 23:23 |
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| metanil | but later .. it should be uploaded.. | 23:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | What if it was just an Article asset that a user edits? | 23:24 |
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| metanil | still haven't think about how to get uploaded file within webgui | 23:24 |
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| metanil | umm.. i use Folder Asset to upload file. | 23:24 |
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| metanil | i modified the code a little bit .. and made browsing directly from the page without going to admin mode. | 23:25 |
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| metanil | i mean file browsing for uploading. .and save directly. | 23:26 |
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| metanil | anyway,, it will go into wegui db. | 23:26 |
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| metanil | i think its the second part.. first .. i need get done with the first one.. showing some HTML assuming i have input file already.. | 23:27 |
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| metanil | perlDreamer: u mean the HTML would directly put it in Article asset directly by user? | 23:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | sure, that's what it is for | 23:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | there is a WYSIWIG editor | 23:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | and a group system to control access | 23:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | WebGUI is designed to help save you time | 23:29 |
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| metanil | yes i should do a little bit processing before that.. | 23:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's why I asked where the file comes from in the first place | 23:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | is it a computer generated report, or some file from a user? | 23:30 |
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| metanil | yes.. agree.. the uploading put that data that should be internally processed | 23:30 |
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| metanil | uploading = uploading user | 23:30 |
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| metanil | file from a user.. | 23:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | where do they get the file from? | 23:30 |
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| metanil | they've got some wierd file.. basically csv.. so i need to parse it.. get the right element.. create some kind page with links.. and form as well. | 23:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | I see. It sounds like a db is the way to go then. | 23:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | Put the CSV right into the db with some script, and the do a simple query to get it via the SQL Report. | 23:32 |
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| metanil | how do i put that CSV "so called" into the db.. | 23:33 |
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| metanil | i read in webgui site that if want to get access to webgui db then i should create Asset for it.. (or sql form/report ) | 23:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | You write a small script that uses the WebGUI configuration file to open a WebGUI Session. Then you use $session->db method to put stuff into a separate table in the db. | 23:34 |
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| metanil | hmm.. sound good.. | 23:35 |
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| metanil | brb :( (damn!!!) | 23:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | in the sbin directory there should be a skeleton file that you can use to start your script | 23:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | _utility.skeleton | 23:36 |
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| SynQ | hi there | 23:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | hello | 23:40 |
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| SynQ | can I check out a wre version from svn? | 23:40 |
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| SynQ | and if yes, how? | 23:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | in source format? | 23:40 |
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| SynQ | indeed | 23:40 |
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| SynQ | oh, and, good news! | 23:40 |
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| SynQ | Tessa is coming to the WUC! | 23:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | svn co https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/wrebuild | 23:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | All right! Is she part of the invasion force? | 23:41 |
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| SynQ | yes | 23:41 |
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| SynQ | but not listed yet | 23:41 |
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| SynQ | and, we are going to have our holiday attached to the WUC too | 23:41 |
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| SynQ | how far is the cuskie's home from Madison? | 23:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | far | 23:42 |
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| SynQ | how far? | 23:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | 2013 miles | 23:42 |
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| bopbop | you'd want to invade the Smith, Dillon, or McCombs house from Madison...Kuskie is across country | 23:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=1025+SE+36th+Ave+Hillsboro+Oregon&daddr=Madison+Wisconsin&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.741627,91.230469&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=5 | 23:43 |
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| bopbop | you could also invade the preaction house | 23:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | We should have rented out the Ruby Marie | 23:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | Stupid Madison food fest | 23:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's land miles, not air miles | 23:43 |
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| bopbop | is Taste of Madison that weekend? | 23:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 23:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | In air miles it's farther since you have to fly to Atlanta to get to Madison | 23:44 |
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| SynQ | ah | 23:44 |
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| SynQ | McCombs sounds nice | 23:45 |
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| SynQ | Smith is allready on the list | 23:45 |
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| SynQ | Dillon sounds good | 23:45 |
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| bopbop | come on over... Dillon is good too, we're in the same town | 23:45 |
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| bopbop | and we have more booze than Smith | 23:45 |
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| SynQ | man | 23:45 |
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| SynQ | perlDreamer: that is far | 23:46 |
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| SynQ | perlDreamer: now I have a checkedout wre source version revision 6030 | 23:48 |
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| SynQ | how do I know what revision wre 0.8.3 was? | 23:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | by browsing through the svn version history | 23:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/plainblack/log/wrebuild/ | 23:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | You should become friends with https://svn.webgui.org | 23:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | very, very helpful | 23:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | I started a wiki page with WebGUI commits versus version info, but it's lapsed | 23:51 |
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| SynQ | but https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/plainblack/browse/wrebuild/ says it is at revision 5976 | 23:53 |
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| SynQ | and I checked out version 6030 | 23:53 |
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| SynQ | Last Changed Rev: 5976 | 23:54 |
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| SynQ | Revision: 6030 | 23:54 |
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| SynQ | hm | 23:54 |
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| SynQ | well, I guess that is not what I am after | 23:57 |
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| +perlDreamer | the whole repository is shared. You did check out 6030, but it's the same as 5976 | 23:58 |
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| SynQ | ah ok | 23:58 |
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| SynQ | I'm going to suggest some enhancements to the utility scripts in /data/wre/sbin | 23:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | excellent | 23:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | snapple42 was an internet consultant from Canada | 23:59 |
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| SynQ | and I figured the best way to suggest them is diff them against the current svn version | 23:59 |
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| SynQ | ah | 23:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | those are excellent suggestions | 23:59 |
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| SynQ | ok | 00:00 |
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| SynQ | now I've got to focus on that for a while | 00:00 |
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| SynQ | be back later | 00:00 |
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| SynQ | I wonder, would JT have a script to download all the prereqs for the WRE and then especially for the perl modules | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | no | 00:33 |
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| SynQ | ah | 00:33 |
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| @rizen | download the source version of the wre from sourceforge | 00:33 |
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| SynQ | ah | 00:34 |
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| SynQ | I'm going to try and build a WRE with all the latest stable versions of the prereqs | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | copy the the "source" folder out of it and into your svn copy | 00:34 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: jt * r6031 /translations/Spanish/Spanish/ (Asset.pm WebGUI.pm WebGUIProfile.pm): update_from_translation_server | 00:34 |
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| SynQ | I've found out what versions they are for all but the enormous list of perl modules | 00:34 |
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| @rizen | having such a script probably wouldn't be a bad idea | 00:35 |
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| @rizen | just haven't gotten around to it | 00:35 |
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| SynQ | ok | 00:35 |
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| SynQ | I'll send you mine :) | 00:35 |
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| SynQ | hang on | 00:35 |
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| metanil | perlDreamer: you said, "You write a small script that uses the WebGUI configuration file to open a WebGUI Session. Then you use $session->db method to put stuff into a separate table in the db" | 00:35 |
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| SynQ | it's in your mailbox | 00:36 |
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| metanil | perlDreamer: do i have to use file/folder to get the file into webgui? | 00:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | metanil, no | 00:40 |
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| metanil | O:-) | 00:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | in your script, just use file I/O | 00:41 |
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| metanil | oh oh ... i'm sorry.. i should make it clear.. ... "user should be able to upload their own "csv" file" | 00:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | and then you want to take _that_ file, and convert pieces of it to HTML | 00:42 |
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| metanil | yes.. have to use other perl library for it | 00:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | metanil, this is slowly growing to a non-trivial script | 00:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | when they upload a file, what happens to the old ones? | 00:44 |
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| metanil | :) | 00:44 |
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| metanil | replaced.. (webgui have a version management if they want previous one) | 00:44 |
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| metanil | :D | 00:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | so it's always the same file URL? | 00:44 |
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| metanil | yes | 00:44 |
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| SynQ | jt: how did you download all those perl modules last time, one by one and manually? | 00:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 00:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | how soon does the file have to be converted into HTML? | 00:45 |
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| @rizen | yes i did | 00:45 |
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| SynQ | man | 00:45 |
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| SynQ | I do not evy you | 00:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | SynQ: He'd like one of those scripts, too ;) | 00:45 |
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| SynQ | I'm getting that script done too | 00:46 |
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| SynQ | perhaps I should start wearing my monk suit now | 00:46 |
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| metanil | perlDreamer: its as soon as it get the file.. but totally depends on the file size they uploaded. | 00:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | this could be a big CSV file? | 00:46 |
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| metanil | not that big... (but i cannot say it right now).. the sample that i have is quite small.. | 00:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, the "as soon as it gets the file" makes it easy. | 00:47 |
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| metanil | and my script can process it instantly | 00:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | There's no built in way to do it automatically with WebGUI | 00:47 |
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| metanil | oops | 00:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | you need a new Asset, or, an extension to the File Asset that calls a Workflow | 00:48 |
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| SynQ | I'm going to include the dutch aspell module too :) | 00:49 |
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| metanil | easy to hear.. hard implement.. is it? | 00:49 |
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| SynQ | that should be part of webgui | 00:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | SynQ: I agree, but it isn't right now | 00:49 |
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| SynQ | I know | 00:49 |
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| SynQ | just wait | 00:49 |
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| metanil | you mean using workflow to run the script? | 00:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, or putting the script contents into a Workflow | 00:51 |
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| metanil | why do we need an extension to File Asset? | 00:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | How does your script know when to run? | 00:52 |
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| metanil | oh to trigger the workflow.. | 00:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | right :) | 00:52 |
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| metanil | ok.. that mean.. i should be looking at wiki to read about workflow. | 00:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | yes | 00:53 |
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| metanil | thanks.. (woot) | 00:53 |
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| metanil | perlDreamer: one quick questions.. how do the workflow know the location of file that it is getting (though this is always constant) ... File Asset just triggers it.. it won't sent the file, will it.? | 01:00 |
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| elnino | howdy.. | 01:09 |
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| elnino | had an sql reprot that worked dandy till I upgraded from 7.3 to 7.4.36, noticed the database parameters were taken out, so I put those back in to the db connection settup area. But query still doens't work. it as a select/union query | 01:10 |
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| elnino | I removed the union statemnt and it works. | 01:10 |
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| elnino | So I'm a little confused as to whether sqlreport doesn't support unions, or if something else is going on here... | 01:11 |
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| elnino | no errors in the logs | 01:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | metanil, the new workflow would have to be passed a copy of the File asset. | 01:19 |
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| metanil | thnx | 01:21 |
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| +perlDreamer | elnino, turn on debug in the SQL Report and see if that has any hints. | 01:43 |
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| elnino | I do, there are simply no errors, and I misspoke, I'm trying other things here. I brought this up long ago, and am now just revisiting, I think it has to do with my union and the longreadlen | 01:45 |
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| elnino | I'm running the query in sqlstudio with no errors. | 01:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | maybe longreadlen has to be longer? | 01:46 |
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| elnino | I did a diff between 7.4.26 and the 7.3.21 and used those values. | 01:47 |
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| elnino | diff on the SQL.pm - there weren't many changes between the two files, so I'm baffled. | 01:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | try diff on DatabaseLink, instead | 01:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | and check the gotchas file | 01:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | LongReadLen: 512*1024 | 01:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | LongTruncOK: 1 | 01:49 |
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| +perlDreamer | is that an Oracle DB, or ODBC connector? | 01:49 |
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| elnino | yep, that's how I found out aobut this, is the gotcha file. i set the two parameters on different lines in the database connection just as you have there, execpt I have 524288 | 01:50 |
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| elnino | dbi:MaxDB:servername: | 01:51 |
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| elnino | port:dbname | 01:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | elnino: You need to be talking to dbDreamer instead of perlDreamer :) | 01:53 |
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| elnino | =) yeah, I only know enough to be dangerous. I wonder if those variables are case sensitive. I'll check. | 01:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | perlbot 512*1024 | 01:56 |
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| @preaction | perlbot math 512*1024 | 01:57 |
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| perlbot | 524288 | 01:57 |
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| @preaction | elnino, you're logging INFO level at least? | 01:57 |
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| elnino | yep. | 01:57 |
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| @preaction | how about debug level? find the query in the debug output and see if anything happens after that | 01:58 |
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| @preaction | last resort is you're going to have to start messing around in the SQLReport, because unfortunately I dont think reproducing your problem will be easy | 01:58 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: jt * r6032 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/ (10 files in 7 dirs): | 01:59 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: added item and sku caching to cart | 01:59 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: ribbon discounts now work | 01:59 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: checklist form control works more like you'd expect | 01:59 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: added badge groups | 01:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | He could tunnel us a connection to his db server :) | 01:59 |
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| elnino | I dont' think so. | 01:59 |
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| elnino | hmm. tried 2 and it displays 2 records. I'm using the default SQL report. I looked around in the code, but didn't see anything obvious. Posted a bug report. Sorry. Thanks for your help. | 02:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | elnino, if you really only want 1 thing returned, just use LIMIT 1 to the end of your SQL query | 02:31 |
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| elnino | I tried, I looked at the doc for maxdb | 02:36 |
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| elnino | it doesn't seem to work even in sql studio. | 02:37 |
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| elnino | I don't know if it is because of the complexity of the statment or what. or maybe the version of our db. | 02:37 |
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| elnino | i'll just do it by two untill next time I can revisit this | 02:39 |
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| topsub | hi | 05:26 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: colin * r6033 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/ (3 files in 3 dirs): more work on translating Asset Products to Sku Products | 07:07 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: to Sku/Product. Now for the code. | 07:30 |
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| jdanpl | Anyone know how to build home forums page like http://www.webgui.org/forums ? | 12:24 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: jt * r6036 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Sku/EMSTicket.pm: ribbon discounts now work with ribbons purchased previously | 17:57 |
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| wgGuest25 | i need some major help | 18:42 |
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| wgGuest25 | my site www.lynntimebank.org, was working on it, changed something on the left hand side | 18:42 |
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| wgGuest25 | now all of a sudden when i try edit a page for example change the word she to he | 18:42 |
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| wgGuest25 | the only option I have is HTML | 18:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | which version of WebGUI are you using? | 18:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | OSCON tutorial goodness: http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/4219 | 18:43 |
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| wgGuest25 | Where can I find that | 18:44 |
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| wgGuest25 | I just started this | 18:44 |
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| wgGuest25 | I am an intern and this system was already in place when I got here | 18:44 |
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| wgGuest25 | WebGUI Build Version:5.5.4 | 18:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | wow | 18:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | That is a really old version of WebGUI | 18:45 |
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| wgGuest25 | we are a non profit organzation so they are never really intrested in upgrading anything | 18:46 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, WebGUI is free, so it doesn't cost you anything but time to upgrade | 18:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | In any case, I have no idea what would have caused your editing options to be only HTML | 18:47 |
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| wgGuest25 | is there anyway to roll back in it? | 18:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | although it sounds like it works okay, just that you'd prefer not to use the WYSIWIG editor? | 18:47 |
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| +perlDreamer | Not in 5.5.4 | 18:47 |
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| wgGuest25 | they need it to be regular text | 18:47 |
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| wgGuest25 | they edit the page alot so prefer it to be html | 18:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | You mean they want to edit the raw HTML, rather than a WYSIWIG? | 18:48 |
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| wgGuest25 | Im sorry if Im not being clear, they want to log in, go to edit on a article, and just type john dow went to the market, they dont want to do (html( john doe (Font Size 11) | 18:49 |
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| wgGuest25 | sorry how confusing this must sound | 18:49 |
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| @apeiron | perlDreamer, OSCON would be nice if it wasn't for the $2k attendance price tag. =\ | 19:12 |
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| +perlDreamer | you can say that again | 19:13 |
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| +perlDreamer | it does make it nicer (less expensive) when it's in Portland | 19:13 |
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| @apeiron | For people *in* Portland. :) | 19:13 |
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| @apeiron | perlDreamer, Hey, by the way, I have a test question if you happen to have a moment? | 19:14 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm on and off, but please feel free to ask | 19:14 |
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| @apeiron | Okie. I'm trying to write some tests for wG code that calls www_view and related methods. I'm using PseudoRequest, replaced $session->{_request} with the PR object, but it's still getting linker issues in the test. | 19:15 |
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| @apeiron | Also using getPage. As far as I know this should Just Work. Am I Doing It Wrong? Missing something? | 19:16 |
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| @apeiron | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m3ac369d3 is a pastebin containing the error if that'd help. | 19:19 |
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| bopbop | Haarg: is there an index of utility scripts anywhere that I can point readers to? | 19:33 |
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| @rizen | tell them to look in their WebGUI/sbin folder | 19:33 |
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| bopbop | ok, thx | 19:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | How 'bout WRE/sbin? | 19:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | apeiron, by default you should now always be getting a PseudoRequest object when you use WebGUI::Test (in 7.5) | 19:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | Can you paste the test code itself? | 19:37 |
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| @apeiron | I'll have to chop it down to something small, but yeah. | 19:38 |
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| bopbop | can someone give me a brief definition of WebGUI::Asset | 19:48 |
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| @apeiron | perlDreamer, http://webgui.pastebin.com/m6458c405 | 19:48 |
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| @apeiron | Hm. Idea: since using getPage actually *does* produce the content I want, why not try to see if I can do what getPage does from within wG? | 19:53 |
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| jua1 | i have a collaboration system and i want to add a new field to it | 19:57 |
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| jua1 | i am using default submission form | 19:57 |
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| jua1 | the thing that i want is when i will add a new thread i can have an additional field to fill | 19:58 |
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| jua1 | is it possible? is clear my question? | 19:59 |
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| @preaction | jua1, yes. alter the template to include a field with the name "userDefined1" or 2 - 5. there are 5 userDefined fields you can use | 20:10 |
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| jua1 | ok | 20:11 |
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| jua1 | thanks, i am going to test | 20:12 |
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| jua1 | preaction, I want to include in the collaboration system a new input text box | 20:21 |
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| @preaction | when someone creates a new thread, right? | 20:22 |
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| jua1 | yes | 20:22 |
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| @preaction | so you have to add that input box to the template | 20:22 |
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| @preaction | and give it the name "userDefined1" | 20:23 |
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| jua1 | ok | 20:24 |
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| jua1 | i am going to try | 20:24 |
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| @apeiron | Ah. Seems this is the magic line I need: $session->http->{_http}->{noHeader} = 1; | 20:29 |
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| @preaction | that's what WebGUI::Test->getPage does | 20:36 |
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| @apeiron | Yeah, exactly. | 20:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | if that's what getPage does, then why does apeiron get the apache request error? | 21:45 |
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| @preaction | because he wasn't using getPage | 21:45 |
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| @apeiron | perlDreamer, I'm not using getPage in the test. | 21:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | apeiron, you should use getPage in the test! | 21:46 |
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| @apeiron | The test is calling a www_ method but writing the contents of that method's output to disk. | 21:46 |
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| @apeiron | perlDreamer, ^^ It doesn't make altogether too much sense to getPage within WebGUI. :) | 21:46 |
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| @preaction | so it's not the Test that's calling the www_ method, but the method you're testing | 21:47 |
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| @apeiron | Yes. | 21:47 |
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| @apeiron | The test is making sure the right contents get spit out to disk. | 21:47 |
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| topsub | perlmonkey2, i put that accordian menu up on webgui.org under packages. if you would like to look at it | 22:31 |
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| perlmonkey2 | cool thanks :) | 22:31 |
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| topsub | already got feedback for improvements Hopefully get to them today | 22:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | last night the smoke test picked up a syntax error in head. Did somebody already fix that? | 22:53 |
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| SynQ | trace - Module Reanmed to Devel::XRay | 23:24 |
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| SynQ | did you know that? | 23:24 |
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| SynQ | http://search.cpan.org/~jbisbee/trace-0.551/lib/trace.pm | 23:24 |
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| SynQ | J/JB/JBISBEE/Devel-XRay-0.941 | 23:24 |
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| SynQ | zelfs | 23:24 |
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| SynQ | even | 23:25 |
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| SynQ | I wonder what 'to reanmed' is | 23:27 |
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| SynQ | I reanme | 23:27 |
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| SynQ | You reanme | 23:27 |
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| SynQ | We reanmed | 23:27 |
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| topsub | if i want to make a link to say edit a file then have it redirect to a certain page after can't i use the "proceed" in the link to do this? | 23:31 |
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| topsub | then it will redirect to the value of proceed after? | 23:31 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Override Core Modules - Edited on 4/3/2008 3:21 pm by knowmad http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/override-core-modules | 23:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | topsub, afaik, proceed=screen will let you go to any www_screen in the asset. | 23:41 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: WRE for Windows - Edited on 4/3/2008 3:29 pm by knowmad http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/wre-for-windows | 23:41 |
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| topsub | perlDreamer, is there docs on that? | 23:48 |
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| metanil | perDreamer: one quick question....... can i do open (IN, $file); while (<IN>) { .. }.... and $file is taken from storageID (that was uploaded into webgui)?? | 23:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | I would use the built-in storage methods for file I/O. getFileContentsAsScalar and so on | 23:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | perldoc WebGUI::Storage | 23:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't know about docs for proceed. | 23:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | If not, I'll apply any POD patches you submit to both 7.4 and 7.5 | 23:52 |
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| topsub | were can i find the www_screen i will look at the code | 23:53 |
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| topsub | in Asset.pm? | 23:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | "screen" would be any valid www_ method | 23:53 |
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| topsub | ooo | 23:53 |
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| topsub | hmm dunno if that will do what i thought it wold | 23:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | what do you want it to do/ | 23:54 |
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| topsub | i have a link on the front end of the website linking to edit a pdf, then after done editing the pdf threw the backend redirect back were tehy came from. | 23:54 |
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| +perlDreamer | I thought it went back to the parent's view method after editing a file by default? | 23:55 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I'm trying to get my demo up and running on our centers webserver and keep getting this in http_erro "/data/domains/casr.ou.edu/public/extras/wobject/Survey" as part of a file does not exist error. Do I have my webgui config pointing at the wrong place for extras? | 23:56 |
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| topsub | hmm i have to look. perlDreamer | 23:57 |
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| @preaction | looks like | 23:57 |
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| @preaction | extrasPath should be /data/WebGUI/www/extras | 23:57 |
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| perlmonkey2 | which is what I have in my casr.ou.edu.conf file. | 23:58 |
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| perlmonkey2 | "uploadsURL" : "/uploads", | 23:58 |
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| perlmonkey2 | "extrasPath" : "/data/WebGUI/www/extras", | 23:58 |
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| @preaction | are you using the ^Extras(); macro in your templates? | 23:58 |
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| perlmonkey2 | no | 23:58 |
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| @preaction | ^/;extras/whatever should technically work though... but try it anyway | 23:59 |
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| perlmonkey2 | it is even looking for the yui libs in the domain/public stuff | 23:59 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I don't want to put a macro in the template, I want to figure out why the config file is set correctly but webgui is looking in the domain dir for extras | 00:00 |
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| topsub | hmm not the result i am seeing | 00:00 |
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| perlmonkey2 | vaary vaary peculiar | 00:01 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Customizing WRE Configuration - Edited on 4/3/2008 3:49 pm by knowmad http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/customizing-wre-configuration | 00:01 |
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| topsub | i see it view the folder were the pdf file is | 00:01 |
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| @preaction | you have to use the ^Extras(); macro, because the "extrasURL" value may or may not be "/extras" | 00:01 |
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| topsub | hmm intresting | 00:01 |
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| perlmonkey2 | how would extrasURL get changed from /data/WebGUI to /data/domain? | 00:02 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I guess I could just copy all of extras to /data/domains/../extras | 00:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | topsub: the folder is the parent of the PDF File. | 00:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | proceed will only redirect to any valid method in the current Asset, which in this case, is the File asset. | 00:09 |
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| topsub | ah | 00:10 |
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| topsub | hmm so iwould have to write a custom thing to have it redirect back to that certain url | 00:11 |
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| +perlDreamer | topsub, the parent of the File asset does not have to be a folder. That's something to think about. | 00:19 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: graham * r6045 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.5.10 dev | 00:23 |
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| topsub | how we have the folders organized they live inside folders.. | 00:23 |
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| topsub | unless i hacked it some to say if you look inside this folder redirect to this link | 00:23 |
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| topsub | but that might make it seem like a ghost in the system | 00:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah | 00:24 |
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| +perlDreamer | after editing some PDF you want it to go to the top of the folder tree? | 00:24 |
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| topsub | basically the front end of the website were we have an admin portal | 00:25 |
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| topsub | like.. /admin/article-manager is the link | 00:25 |
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| +perlDreamer | So if you want to edit 2 PDF's you'd have to nav all the way back down? | 00:25 |
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| topsub | in the front end we have a list of the pdfs | 00:26 |
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| topsub | linking to edit each one | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | hm | 00:26 |
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| topsub | so the client doesn't have to use the backend is our plan | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | how about this | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | make shortcuts to the PDFs as children of your article-manager page | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | or vice-versa | 00:26 |
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| +perlDreamer | set the PDFs to be hidden as children of the page | 00:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | now, if you edit the PDF, you return to the parent, which is the article-manager | 00:27 |
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| topsub | might work but i have over 50 folders organized of pdfs | 00:27 |
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| topsub | so i would have to short cut each folder? | 00:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | each file in each folder | 00:28 |
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| topsub | whew | 00:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah | 00:28 |
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| topsub | that would be alot of shortcuts | 00:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | it would work functionally, but practically... no | 00:29 |
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| topsub | lol ya | 00:29 |
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| +perlDreamer | might I suggest revisting the idea of not using the interface? | 00:29 |
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| topsub | might have to | 00:29 |
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| topsub | talk it up with william | 00:29 |
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| topsub | cuz we thought the procced would do it | 00:30 |
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| topsub | not realizing its just for like view, edit, manageAsset | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | wait | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | crud | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | proceed=getDefaultAsset is close, but not quite right | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | for 2 reasons | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | 1) It's not a www_ method | 00:30 |
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| +perlDreamer | 2) it returns an asset, rather than viewing as asset | 00:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | if you added a www_viewDefaultAsset method, that would work | 00:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | and would be relatively clean to maintain | 00:31 |
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| topsub | so mod the core to add that ur saying? | 00:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | but you don't want to view the default asset, you want to view some other asset | 00:31 |
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| +perlDreamer | yeah, that's what I'm saying | 00:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's pretty much what you're down to | 00:32 |
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| topsub | ya. | 00:32 |
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| topsub | want to view the pagelayout vs the asset itself | 00:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | you could put a HTTP redirect in the File's view template | 00:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | but then it could never, ever be viewed | 00:32 |
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| topsub | from teh front end anyway | 00:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | right, only from the folder, or from the Asset Manager | 00:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | this is a file sharing setup, right/ | 00:33 |
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| topsub | cuz when the folder is like root>> home >> pdfs>> connections >> 2003 >> cn203.pdf | 00:33 |
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| topsub | connections being a category | 00:33 |
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| topsub | and year can range from 1987 to 2008 | 00:33 |
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| +perlDreamer | nm, the template idea doesn't work either | 00:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | www_view is the download method for a file | 00:34 |
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| topsub | cuz when i edited a pdf it took me back to the 2003 folder | 00:34 |
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| +perlDreamer | right, back to it's parent | 00:34 |
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| topsub | yep | 00:34 |
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| alperyilmaz | Hi.. Is it possible to run CGI scripts inside WebGUI? Am I allowed only using HTML when creating page content? | 01:03 |
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| @preaction | you can add modules to WebGUI, or you can use CGI scripts in a pass-through | 01:04 |
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| @preaction | but not inside of WebGUI itself | 01:04 |
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| @preaction | the HTTPProxy asset can also help with running CGI scripts | 01:04 |
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| +perlDreamer | you can also create non-HTML content, like XML or most anything else | 01:05 |
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| alperyilmaz | i have a perl-based site and i was considering migrating it to WebGUI | 01:06 |
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| alperyilmaz | but it looks like it will be difficult | 01:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | how much content is there? | 01:06 |
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| @preaction | depends on how the CGI scripts work. if you can migrate them into WebGUI Assets, it could be very easy | 01:07 |
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| alperyilmaz | not too much.. 10-15 pages with MySQL connections/queries | 01:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, we have a SQL Report asset that might handle those right out of the bag | 01:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | have you tried playing with a demo site yet? | 01:07 |
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| +perlDreamer | demo.plainblack.com will give you a 24 hour demo | 01:08 |
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| alperyilmaz | yes, i tried | 01:08 |
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| alperyilmaz | i saw SQL assets | 01:08 |
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| @preaction | perhaps you could re-build your application with Thingy | 01:08 |
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| +perlDreamer | those are the ones | 01:08 |
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| @rizen | so one of our clients just asked me if Thingy is like WaveMaker (http://www.wavemaker.com/) | 01:08 |
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| @preaction | or, if you're up to it, making WebGUI applications (Assets) is not difficult if you already know perl | 01:09 |
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| @rizen | I said "Um, no." | 01:09 |
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| @rizen | have you guys seen wavemaker? | 01:09 |
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| +perlDreamer | just now | 01:09 |
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| @rizen | it's unbelievably cool, but also scary hard to use | 01:09 |
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| alperyilmaz | okay.. I'll try to use the assets | 01:09 |
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| alperyilmaz | thanks.. | 01:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | you're welcome | 01:10 |
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| @rizen | there's no way that my mom will ever use wavemaker, but there is a chance she could use Thingy | 01:10 |
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| +perlDreamer | I don't know, you mom seems pretty savvy | 01:10 |
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| CIA-21 | WebGUI: jt * r6046 /branch/WebGUI_Commerce/ (6 files in 5 dirs): the badge/ticket relationships through badge groups now work | 02:48 |
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| danny_mk | Hello everyone | 02:59 |
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| danny_mk | Have you ever seen these errors in the error_log? | 03:01 |
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| danny_mk | Hmmm... the pastebin link did not show up. | 03:01 |
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| acklenx | is the a good place to get a quick comparison of webgui vs postnuke? | 03:03 |
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| danny_mk | http://webgui.pastebin.com/m1ea1aceb | 03:03 |
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| @preaction | acklenx, cmsmatrix.org | 03:03 |
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| danny_mk | probably cmsmatrix.org | 03:03 |
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| acklenx | (googling retunrns a lot places to get bad comparisons | 03:03 |
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| @preaction | danny_mk, those are warnings | 03:03 |
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| acklenx | will do thanks | 03:04 |
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| @preaction | as in Perl warnings, as in you have some code that turns on warnings globally | 03:04 |
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| danny_mk | I know, however the log keeps on growing like heck and the site seems a little slow | 03:04 |
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| @preaction | use warnings shouldn't be in any of the code shipped with WebGUI | 03:04 |
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| danny_mk | alright, maybe I missed something | 03:05 |
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| @preaction | grep -R "use warnings" /data/WebGUI/lib will tell you quickly | 03:05 |
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| @preaction | but also check preload.perl | 03:05 |
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| danny_mk | right | 03:05 |
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| danny_mk | will do | 03:05 |
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| danny_mk | hah! Asset_Calendar.pm,Storage.pm, and about 3 more modules have "use warnings" | 03:07 |
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| @preaction | if they're like that in SVN HEAD then i would file bugs | 03:10 |
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| @preaction | but use warnings is lexical | 03:10 |
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| @preaction | it shouldn't turn it on globally | 03:10 |
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| danny_mk | right, I found the culprit | 03:11 |
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| danny_mk | thank you for your help. | 03:11 |
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| metanil | hello | 04:24 |
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| metanil | my code "http://webgui.pastebin.com/d6e380d7c" is giving me null. | 04:25 |
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| metanil | i did ->>> $csv_data = $storage->getFileContentsAsScalar($filename); | 04:25 |
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| metanil | any suggestions? | 04:25 |
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| metanil | ? | 04:32 |
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| topsub | i have updated my accordion menu if anyone could test it. Added the features someone reuqested | 07:12 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 16:25 |
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| topsub | hi | 17:01 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hi | 17:02 |
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| bartjol | hi | 17:13 |
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| Syn2 | ha | 17:13 |
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| jdanpl | hi | 17:15 |
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| Syn2 | honden... | 17:16 |
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| lisette | hello | 18:00 |
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| lisette | I can tell a survey which is the score for each question? | 18:01 |
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| bartjol | lisette, there is a scale of correctness for your answers? | 18:03 |
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| lisette | mmm i don't know | 18:06 |
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| lisette | i do a new survey | 18:06 |
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| lisette | and i wants to do this | 18:06 |
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| bartjol | well, that depends on how you design your survey | 18:06 |
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| lisette | i want to do in mode quiz | 18:08 |
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| bartjol | so you can 1 answer as the correct one | 18:09 |
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| bartjol | you can assign 1 answer etc | 18:09 |
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| lisette | yes, but i want control the score by answer | 18:35 |
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| bartjol | hee perlDreamer it was strange, I couldn't find those namespaces you mentioned | 18:37 |
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| bartjol | maybe arjan did before i could do it | 18:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | could be | 18:37 |
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| +perlDreamer | do the tags even exist? | 18:37 |
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| bartjol | haven't seen any new ones, but you didn't mention any specific tag names | 18:38 |
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| bartjol | lisette maybe you have to custimize your db answer entries, or you can hold on for a while and wait for survey 2.0, but I don;t know the specs | 18:41 |
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| bartjol | but I'm off, will check the translations soon enough | 18:42 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Customizing WRE Configuration - Edited on 4/4/2008 10:32 am by topsub http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/customizing-wre-configuration | 18:44 |
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| topsub | perlDreamer, thanks for your input yesterday | 18:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | you're welcome | 18:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | did you come up with a solution? | 18:52 |
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| topsub | believe let them use the backend.. lol | 18:52 |
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| topsub | would like to mod core webgui to allow us to pass in url and have it redirect to it after you save | 18:52 |
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| topsub | might work on that after this project. Have to get this project out the door | 18:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | RFEs with patches have a higher likelihood of being accepted :) | 18:53 |
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| +perlDreamer | RFEs with patches AND tests may even be committed by volunteer developers | 18:53 |
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| topsub | might do that then | 18:54 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Sweet jumping jelly beans, Battlestar Galactica season premier tonight!!! | 21:05 |
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| knowmad | i'm still catching up on the old seasons... | 21:07 |
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| ckotil | theres a video online to get you caught up real quick | 21:20 |
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| nuba | WHOA, indeed, BSG is back! | 21:32 |
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| nuba | awesome | 21:32 |
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| nuba | quick question: how do I force new users to agree with a Terms of Service text when creating a new account? | 21:33 |
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| perlmonkey2 | nuba that is a very common question, but I think the common answer is a macro? But don't take my word for that. | 21:33 |
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| nuba | should I add the TOS and the checkbox as profile fields, set to show at the account creation form? | 21:33 |
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| topsub | quick question. I trying to pull the lastest version of an asset Is there asimple way that it is flagged saying this is the lastest one? | 21:38 |
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| topsub | i see revisionDate is that the only way? | 21:38 |
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| @preaction | topsub, revisionDate is the only way | 21:41 |
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| @preaction | in SQL it's usually select MAX(revisionDate) from assetData where status="approved" | 21:42 |
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| @preaction | but to be really smart about it is beyond the capability of an SQLReport | 21:42 |
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| @rizen | preaction: when is asset report going to be completed? | 21:43 |
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| @preaction | i was planning on 7.6 dev. doing it right requires asset mixins, which are really easy. mainly shooting for 7.6 because i haven't been able to touch it in 3 weeks | 21:44 |
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| @preaction | asset mixins is also the reason why i put off subscriptions to Calendars and Events and WikiPages, since a mixin could easily take care of that | 21:44 |
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| metanil | my code "http://webgui.pastebin.com/d6e380d7c" is giving me null. | 21:45 |
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| metanil | i did ->>> $csv_data = $storage->getFileContentsAsScalar($filename); | 21:45 |
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| @rizen | mixins, you think that's the solution to everything | 21:45 |
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| @preaction | it is! failing marriage? mixin'll fixin' | 21:46 |
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| @preaction | body odor problems? mixin'll fixin' | 21:46 |
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| @rizen | world peace...just add a mixin | 21:47 |
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| metanil | what should be the parameter for getFileContentsAsScalar()?? | 21:47 |
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| @preaction | the filename i thought | 21:48 |
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| @preaction | undef if the file doesn't exist probably | 21:48 |
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| metanil | what if i did, my $storageId = 'WneFgmzQYy8gnIcXabcS1A'; my $storage = WebGUI::Storage->get($self->session, $storageId); | 21:49 |
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| metanil | does it return the storage that is stored by $storageId? .. and after then .. if i do like .. $storage->getfile();.... (sth like that) .. would that return the contents ? | 21:51 |
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| @preaction | yes, your code seems to work | 21:52 |
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| @preaction | but not sure your addFileFromFormPost is correct | 21:52 |
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| metanil | preaction: i didn't do addFileFromFormPost... | 21:52 |
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| metanil | its already stored in the database. | 21:52 |
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| @preaction | line 3 in your paste | 21:52 |
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| metanil | (may be through upload) | 21:53 |
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| metanil | yes.. thats where i was in confusion | 21:53 |
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| metanil | if i already have storageid.. why would i need filename??? | 21:53 |
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| @preaction | because storage contains more than one file? | 21:54 |
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| metanil | ooooh! | 21:54 |
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| @preaction | addFileFromFormPost is probably wrong though. it does exactly what it says | 21:54 |
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| @preaction | you can loop through getFiles() and try to find the one you want | 21:54 |
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| @preaction | or if you know only one is in there $storage->getFile->[0]; | 21:54 |
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| metanil | you mean getFiles (not getFile).. ? | 21:56 |
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| metanil | preaction: woot! | 22:02 |
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| metanil | preaction: in which situation does a storage has multiple files? | 22:04 |
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| @preaction | when you add multiple files to the storage | 22:04 |
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| @preaction | Events and WikiPage and Articles do | 22:04 |
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| metanil | got it. | 22:06 |
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| metanil | thx | 22:06 |
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| topsub | thanks preaction! | 22:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | preaction++ | 22:17 |
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| +perlDreamer | bopbop: any other problems with the testing chapter? | 22:18 |
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| @preaction | can we get someone to pay us to re-do the Calendar again? or at least a week or two of bugfixing / updates? | 22:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | or is it fit for diaper fodder? :) | 22:18 |
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| +perlDreamer | 80 hours of work, that's spendy | 22:18 |
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| @preaction | a week then, probably all it would take. the extra week i never got | 22:19 |
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| @rizen | i'm going with diaper fodder, just to kill your ego going into the weekend | 22:20 |
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| @rizen | preaction: it's alumni's dime, and that's all you do every day | 22:20 |
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| @rizen | just build it into your schedule | 22:20 |
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| bopbop | perlDreamer: nope I finished revising it and it looks good | 22:22 |
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| bopbop | I understood most of what I was reading, so you must have explained clearly:) | 22:22 |
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| @apeiron | yay! | 22:22 |
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| @apeiron | I nominate bopbop as our new Official Test Monkey. | 22:22 |
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| bopbop | oh geez | 22:22 |
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| @rizen | man, that's pretty high praise | 22:23 |
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| @rizen | i bet i don't get such high praise for my chapters | 22:23 |
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| bopbop | you aren't the worst, rizen, we'll just leave it at that | 22:23 |
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| @preaction | wait | 22:24 |
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| @preaction | that means someone else is the worst | 22:24 |
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| bopbop | :) | 22:24 |
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| @preaction | ... if it's me, it's only because you're too stupid to understand me! | 22:24 |
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| @preaction | ha ha! charade you are! | 22:24 |
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| bopbop | hey, Eye not sew dumb ass u thinx I is | 22:24 |
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| @preaction | i'm a certified college dropout! i fail english? that's unpossible! | 22:25 |
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| @apeiron | preaction, The quote is "me fail english" | 22:25 |
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| @preaction | but "me fail english" is the correct grammatical construct | 22:26 |
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| @apeiron | er, you have two nouns in the objective case in that sentence without a conjunction joining them. :) | 22:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, we know it isn't apeiron either :) | 22:31 |
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| bopbop | all the chapters look pretty good | 22:32 |
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| +perlDreamer | bopbop, met another guy who hunts duck who didn't believe that flavored shot exists | 22:34 |
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| bopbop | it exists, but it isn't FDA approved yet | 22:35 |
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| bopbop | guess it's not exactly safe to eat :) | 22:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | oy | 22:35 |
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| +perlDreamer | that's a problem | 22:35 |
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| bopbop | yeah...Ryan is determined to buy it- we're looking into the fowl hunting black market | 22:35 |
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| bopbop | here you go: http://www.seasonshot.com/Home.cfm | 22:36 |
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| +perlDreamer | be careful, this channel is logged | 22:36 |
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| bopbop | it's for sale on the Internet...it must be fine | 22:37 |
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| @preaction | it's not for sale yet :( | 22:38 |
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| @preaction | i mean, i don't hunt, but applied science is always awesome | 22:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | one small problem | 22:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | on their about us page, they should all have broken teeth | 22:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | thus showing the need for the shot in the first place | 22:39 |
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| bopbop | hehehe | 22:39 |
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| @preaction | water-soluable hard-plastic shells perhaps? like paintball pellets? the smaller they are, the less likely they are to break on impact. also the more full they are... | 22:39 |
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| bopbop | tightly packed seasoning held together in pellets by a food binding product apparently | 22:41 |
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| bopbop | they melt during cooking | 22:41 |
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| lisette | which the action of the form login_box? | 22:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | I believe POST | 22:43 |
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| @preaction | POST. GET would be very bad | 22:43 |
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| @rizen | that is the method | 22:44 |
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| @rizen | the action is the site url | 22:44 |
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| * perlDreamer asks ignorantly, "Why? Why preaction-claus, why?" | 22:44 |
| lisette | thanks | 22:44 |
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| @preaction | get shows up in the browser address bar? | 22:45 |
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| @preaction | post at least doesn't | 22:45 |
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| @preaction | and with POST + SSL you don't have piggyback slurp | 22:45 |
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| @preaction | (Man-in-the-middle attack) | 22:45 |
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| jua1 | hello | 23:20 |
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| jua1 | i have a problem with a collaboration system | 23:21 |
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| jua1 | i have created CS with the weblog template, in the CS i can upload files | 23:22 |
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| jua1 | the problem is that i have upload a file but when i am going to read more in a specific thread i can not see the file | 23:23 |
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| perlmonkey2 | seasonshot....that is absolutely hilarious. | 23:38 |
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| * perlDreamer is considering trying something similar for fishing | 23:39 |
| +perlDreamer | but how do you avoid ruining the fish? | 23:39 |
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| bopbop | hmm- seasoned worms? | 23:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'll bring some to the next WUC | 23:41 |
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| bopbop | ok- you bring the fish, I'll bring the bird | 23:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | oh no, I was talking about the worms | 23:41 |
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| bopbop | ooh, well we can eat those too | 23:41 |
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| bopbop | maybe rizen will charter us a boat for Lake Mendota to go fishing | 23:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | Now you're talking! | 23:42 |
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| +perlDreamer | although I'll need to practice my knots | 23:43 |
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| @rizen | not that big of a lake. doubt there are boat charters available. | 23:43 |
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| * perlDreamer is famous for losing tackle after the cast due to loose knots | 23:43 |
| bopbop | hmm- we can get a pontoon down by me | 23:43 |
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| perlmonkey2 | bopbop: fising at the WUC...I'm IN! | 23:45 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hah, or a pontoon | 23:45 |
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| bopbop | we'll see what we can do for you perlmonkey2 | 23:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | The WUC will by BYOB | 23:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | um be, not by | 23:45 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Bring Your Own Bait? | 23:45 |
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| +perlDreamer | Boat | 23:46 |
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| perlmonkey2 | This is a really old webgui site, right? http://www.dynamist.com/ | 00:13 |
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| @preaction | doesn't seem like it | 00:15 |
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| perlmonkey2 | thought that was an old webgui theme. | 00:17 |
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| @rizen | not a webgui site at all | 00:20 |
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| @rizen | you can use the old ?op=theWg trick to find out | 00:20 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hm....then that has to be a totally ripped off wg theme? | 00:22 |
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| @rizen | pm2: did you get your survey done in time for your peeps to be happy? | 00:23 |
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| lisette | hello | 00:24 |
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| perlmonkey2 | They extended the deadline, and actually weren't too upset. They know they are asking for a lot. | 00:24 |
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| lisette | i want to do a trivia with time limit | 00:24 |
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| lisette | i can do this? | 00:24 |
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| lisette | and how to do? | 00:24 |
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| perlmonkey2 | rizen: I have a whole extra week to stamp out bugs and I need to have questions on the screen by the end of the weekend. | 00:24 |
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| @rizen | great news pm2 | 00:25 |
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| @apeiron | lisette, Simple, naive way is to use JS to get a timestamp of when the document is fully rendered in the user's browser and set an alert to occur after a set time period that enforces whatever "you took too long" logic you need. | 00:25 |
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| @apeiron | s/alert/event/ | 00:25 |
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| perlmonkey2 | yeah....I'm pumped as I'd be really sad if they lost their grant. But I'm reassured by their claims that this will be doing more than what their 100K software does. Kind of makes me feel better for not being to finish it with one part time developer in a few weeks. | 00:26 |
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| @apeiron | (I say simple and naive because there's likely something better) | 00:26 |
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| lisette | mmm i can do that just with JS, no other way? | 00:27 |
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| @rizen | lisette: you could use a session scratch variable to keep track of the time | 00:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | lisette, do you mean that you want the trivia to be changed with time (like new trivia every 5 minutes) or that you want the user to answer within a time limit? | 00:28 |
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| @rizen | or if you are keeping track of the trivia responses in the database, you could timestamp them so you could see when their first response is | 00:28 |
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| lisette | yes, but too closed | 00:28 |
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| perlmonkey2 | That ?op=theWg is super sweet | 00:28 |
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| lisette | i need two ways | 00:29 |
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| @rizen | pm2: there are all kinds of easter eggs like that in webgui | 00:30 |
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| @rizen | try this one: http://www.plainblack.com/*give-credit-where-credit-is-due* | 00:30 |
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| lisette | sorry is a survey in mode quiz | 00:31 |
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| lisette | how to do all this | 00:32 |
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| perlmonkey2 | rizen: that one didn't work on my center's wg instance. | 00:33 |
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| perlmonkey2 | http://casr.ou.edu/*give-credit-where-credit-is-due* | 00:33 |
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| lisette | perlDreamer: i need two things | 00:35 |
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| @rizen | yeah it's broken before 7.5 | 00:36 |
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| @rizen | here this one will work: | 00:37 |
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| @rizen | http://casr.ou.edu/?op=genesis | 00:37 |
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| metanil | how do we autocommit for uploading file in folder Asset?? | 00:37 |
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| perlmonkey2 | rizen: hah, that is great | 00:39 |
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| +perlDreamer | metanil: you can't set autocommit only for Folder Assets. You can set it up for the whole site, though. It's in the Settings. I believe it is in the Content tab. | 00:39 |
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| metanil | can i do programmatically.. like getting tag and do commit. | 00:40 |
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| metanil | tagid | 00:40 |
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| @rizen | perlmonkey2: ok...ready for the grand daddy of them all? the hardest easter egg to find in webgui is: | 00:41 |
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| @rizen | 1) go to any page layout url | 00:41 |
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| @rizen | 2) turn admin on | 00:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | well, if I remember correctly, file uploading is done via the File Pile. I guess you could modify that. | 00:41 |
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| @rizen | 3) type the following characters | 00:41 |
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| @rizen | up down up down left right left right b a | 00:41 |
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| @rizen | the directions are on your arrow keys | 00:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | and b a stands for "moon your boss" | 00:42 |
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| @rizen | b and a are actually b and a on your keyboard, don't listen to pd | 00:42 |
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| perlmonkey2 | rizen: HAHAHAA, that is GREAT | 00:42 |
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| @rizen | he's a bad influence | 00:42 |
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| perlmonkey2 | if wg could tell when I had mooned my boss, It probably should be classified as more than just a CMS. | 00:43 |
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| +perlDreamer | Character Monitoring System | 00:43 |
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| @rizen | eminem wrote a song called "bad influence" about perlDreamer | 00:44 |
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| perlmonkey2 | heh | 00:47 |
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| perlmonkey2 | okayh, bbl, taking the wif out on the town. | 00:47 |
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| lisette | ? | 00:48 |
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| lisette | i can't do this with webgui? | 00:48 |
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| lisette | i have build a new macro to controle this? | 00:49 |
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| @preaction | wtf is a neutered konami code doing in WebGUI? | 00:51 |
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| @preaction | it should be up up down down left right left right b a | 00:51 |
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| @preaction | rizen, you are one seriously tricky individual | 00:52 |
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| @rizen | are you sure? i think you're wrong | 00:52 |
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| @rizen | but i'm happy that you got the reference | 00:52 |
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| @preaction | i think we're both right, really | 00:52 |
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| @rizen | it's also supposed to have "select" "start" at the end | 00:52 |
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| @rizen | but there aren't those keys on the keyboard | 00:52 |
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| @preaction | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code | 00:52 |
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| @preaction | i could swear that one game does it a little differently | 00:53 |
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| @rizen | i was doing it from memory | 00:53 |
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| @rizen | so i guess i got it wrong | 00:53 |
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| @preaction | eh, it'll keep people guessing that much more | 00:54 |
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| @rizen | i was just telling haarg that we need to add a couple more easter eggs to webgui before the wuc | 00:54 |
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| @rizen | and that we should add a new undocumented config file variable called noHumor:1 | 00:55 |
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| @rizen | that disables them all | 00:55 |
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| @preaction | allowing disabling of easter egg? even if that's an easter egg itself it's kinda sad | 00:55 |
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| @rizen | i think it's a cool easter egg | 00:56 |
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| @preaction | sad as in depressing, not sad as in ill-concieved | 00:57 |
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| @rizen | i also think that we should change the gallery so that on april fools day all photos are elvis | 00:57 |
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| @preaction | replace Elvis with Gooey | 00:59 |
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| @preaction | in an Elvis costume | 00:59 |
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| lisette | anyone knows? | 01:01 |
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| +perlDreamer | lisette, the current Survey doesn't know about time. | 01:56 |
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| topsub | hopefully i can get this to work. Try to make an inline text editor for when you "Turn admin on" | 08:12 |
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| SynQ | good afternoon | 13:48 |
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| GooeyOfSteel | Wiki: Getting Started in the WebGUI Community - Edited on 4/5/2008 8:03 am by koen http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/getting-started-in-the-webgui-community | 16:15 |
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| SynQ | jt, are you there? | 17:03 |
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| SynQ | I just hope you are not going to be mad again | 17:05 |
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| SynQ | but I fear | 17:05 |
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| SynQ | hi there perlmonkey2 | 17:39 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hello SynQ | 17:39 |
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| perlmonkey2 | how's things? | 17:40 |
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| SynQ | great | 17:40 |
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| SynQ | I'm working on the WRE | 17:40 |
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| perlmonkey2 | sounds like fun | 17:40 |
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| SynQ | it is | 17:40 |
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| perlmonkey2 | what you doing to it? | 17:40 |
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| SynQ | I'm adjusting the build.sh script to let it take the versions of the programs to build from a list of variables | 17:41 |
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| SynQ | so that I can compile it with all new versions of the dependancies | 17:41 |
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| perlmonkey2 | very cool | 17:41 |
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| SynQ | but now I'm out to shop some | 17:50 |
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| SynQ | bbl | 17:50 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Where would I set the default Template edit box width? | 19:49 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Like when I want to edit a template via wG, I'd like the box to default to much wider. | 19:50 |
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| SynQ | I wouldn't know | 19:55 |
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| @apeiron | perlmonkey2, I think that's codified in the Textbox form control, but I'm not certain. | 19:55 |
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| perlmonkey2 | apeiron: cool thanks for showing me where to start looking :) | 19:56 |
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| @apeiron | hrm, actually. | 19:56 |
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| @apeiron | Something probably *uses* that form control. | 19:56 |
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| @apeiron | So you'll want to look for an invocation of it. | 19:56 |
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| perlmonkey2 | okay...I'll see what I can dig up | 20:18 |
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| perlmonkey2 | If I want to grab a param out of the url from the last get request, how would I do that? | 01:14 |
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| perlmonkey2 | $self->session->form->process('myparam') doens't seem to be doing it. | 01:15 |
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| perlmonkey2 | but then I'm not submitting a form. | 01:15 |
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| perlmonkey2 | this is driving me nuts.....I pass in a param in the URL and can not figure out how to get it from the session. | 02:07 |
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| @apeiron | Is it a form parameter if it's being passed in via the URL? | 02:11 |
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| perlmonkey2 | hold on | 02:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | it was just me being absolutely retarded | 02:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I was checking for the param in an AJAX callback that occurs after the page loads. | 02:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | so the param in the URL that takes the user to the page obviouly wouldn't be showing up there. | 02:13 |
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| perlmonkey2 | am I the only one working yet another weekend (note the self-pity included in that statement)? | 04:28 |
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| CIA-5 | WebGUI: yung * r6056 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fixed: Thingy: Text, File and Hidden field types listed twice | 22:02 |
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| CIA-5 | WebGUI: yung * r6058 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Thingy.pm): fixed: selecting some field types will crash Thingy | 22:02 |
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| BartJol | hee Koen | 00:08 |
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| BartJol | can't you create your own kids for the photos? | 00:09 |
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| BartJol | mmm august, that's less than 9 months | 00:10 |
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| SynQ | hehe | 00:24 |
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| SynQ | sorry, it's allready too late for that | 00:24 |
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| SynQ | but I'd like to get some photo's of colin and frank's kids | 00:25 |
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| BartJol | oh maybe it's a nice ti ne to upgrade my website | 00:29 |
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| +snapcount | I'm trying to get someone signed up with CDG commerce for a merchant account and iTransact is not a choice for the payment gateway on their site | 05:03 |
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| +snapcount | is there a new name for it? | 05:03 |
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| +snapcount | only choices are Quantum Gateway and Authorize.net gateway | 05:04 |
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| perlmonkey2 | rizen: You still looking for someone for the WebGUI developer? | 05:25 |
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| topsub | hmm what table in the database does the an article content get stored. | 06:07 |
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| topsub | Think i am overlooking it.. | 06:07 |
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| @rizen | perlmonkey2: yes we're still looking for a developer | 17:31 |
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| @rizen | snapcount: just go direct to itransact.com | 17:32 |
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| +snapcount | thanks rizen... I stumbled onto that last night and had them go there | 17:32 |
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| lisette | hi | 17:42 |
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| perlmonkey2 | lisette: Hello | 17:42 |
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| lisette | i can controle the score by question in a survey in mode quiz? | 17:43 |
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| perlmonkey2 | lisette: allow each question to have a different point value? | 17:43 |
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| lisette | yes | 17:44 |
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| perlmonkey2 | lisette: I not 100% sure but I think you'd have to do that in processing after the quiz was administered. | 17:47 |
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| perlmonkey2 | IE, no, you can't change the point values in the quiz mode. | 17:47 |
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| perlmonkey2 | But that is an interesting point. I'm currently working on a new version of the survey and instead of a 'corrent/incorrect' value for an answer, that could be a point value. Rizen, do you think that'd be a good idea? | 17:48 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 17:49 |
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| perlmonkey2 | g'morning SDuensin | 17:50 |
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| @rizen | pm2: sure | 17:51 |
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| perlmonkey2 | lisette: Okay, I'll work that change into the new system. But for now, I don't think you can change point values in the survey. You would have to generate a report and then process that to change point values. | 17:52 |
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| BartJol | a point value probably is, just changed 300+ db fields manually for point values in a survey (the isCorrect field isn't used) | 17:53 |
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| BartJol | is good | 17:54 |
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| lisette | thanks | 17:55 |
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| lisette | ok | 17:55 |
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| lisette | how i can obtanin the score to process? | 17:55 |
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| lisette | obtain | 17:56 |
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| topsub | hello everyone | 17:56 |
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| BartJol | hi | 17:57 |
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| BartJol | lisette, you mean if you want to do it now, before the new survey system? | 17:58 |
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| lisette | no | 17:58 |
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| lisette | i want process the score of quiz | 17:58 |
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| lisette | and save in a db | 17:58 |
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| lisette | and then my question is: how to do for get the score that gives me webgui? | 17:59 |
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| perlmonkey2 | lisette: for now, you can not change the score for each question. And according to BartJol, the isCorrect field is not used, so you wouldn't know if you should give a question that score. | 18:00 |
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| BartJol | it's not used in survey mode | 18:01 |
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| BartJol | so if you use survey mode, you can add a score and write a macro to extract the data you want | 18:01 |
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| BartJol | it's ugly, but it works | 18:01 |
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| BartJol | temporarily :) | 18:02 |
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| lisette | yes i understand | 18:02 |
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| BartJol | but it's some work | 18:02 |
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| lisette | but, if i want process how to do....? | 18:02 |
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| BartJol | how you put it in the other db, I don't know | 18:02 |
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| BartJol | sorry, I don't understand your question | 18:03 |
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| lisette | how to get the score that actually gives me webgui? | 18:03 |
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| lisette | como obtengo el score actual que me entrega la survey | 18:03 |
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| lisette | con una consulta en la base de datos? | 18:03 |
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| BartJol | aha :) | 18:04 |
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| perlmonkey2 | you want to get the score out of the webgui database. | 18:04 |
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| perlmonkey2 | webgui has reporting tools. | 18:05 |
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| BartJol | a sql report sounds most logical | 18:05 |
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| lisette | mmm which table save the score? | 18:07 |
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| BartJol | Survey_response or Survey_questionresponse | 18:08 |
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| BartJol | Survey_questionResponse | 18:08 |
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| BartJol | the last has the actual eneterd answers | 18:08 |
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| BartJol | with the isCorrect field | 18:09 |
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| BartJol | zo you can add all the isCorrect fields with a certain Survey_responseId and devide it by the number of questions and there you have the score in fractions (or percents, when multiplied by 100%) | 18:10 |
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| lisette | other question | 18:12 |
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| lisette | i can put time to a survey? | 18:12 |
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| BartJol | well, one more, then I'll have to leave | 18:12 |
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| BartJol | well, the survey stoers the start and end time of a user submitting it, but not sure whether this can easily be doen | 18:13 |
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| lisette | ok, tk | 18:13 |
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| BartJol | sorry for my bad typing | 18:13 |
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| lisette | mmmm, i mean put time limit for answer the survey | 18:14 |
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| BartJol | well, that's something I should look into | 18:15 |
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| BartJol | not sure | 18:15 |
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| BartJol | mmm I repeat myself | 18:16 |
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| BartJol | are you in a hurry? | 18:16 |
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| lisette | no | 18:16 |
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| lisette | well more and less | 18:16 |
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| lisette | i have to do this for end month | 18:17 |
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| BartJol | ah, ok | 18:17 |
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| BartJol | well, there has to be done something whithin the code probably | 18:17 |
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| lisette | I have to do before that date for tests, that day should be working perfectly | 18:18 |
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| BartJol | or maybe the results can be processed by a macro, and if the time is too long, you just give them an error | 18:19 |
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| BartJol | do you program perl? | 18:19 |
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| BartJol | I'm just learning it, so I would like to help you, but can't give you any guaranties | 18:20 |
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| BartJol | it is for a non-commercial application, isn't it? | 18:20 |
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| BartJol | otherwise my boss will slap me because I give away his time | 18:22 |
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| lisette | yes, i program in perl | 18:22 |
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| lisette | yes i can i have a macro | 18:22 |
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| BartJol | ooh, well then you just have to dig in, always nice, a learning experience :) | 18:23 |
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| BartJol | well I've gotta go, will see you again I think | 18:25 |
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| lisette | ok | 18:27 |
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| +perlDreamer | I feel like I'm wimping out by having an electrical project quoted by a contractor. | 18:36 |
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| +snapcount | that's like saying you think you're wimping out because you don't want to wrestle the 6' shark you just found in your swimming pool =) | 18:38 |
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| +snapcount | I say if it can shock you then contract it out... no sense in messing up your hair | 18:38 |
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| +perlDreamer | true, but there are wiring shocks, and wallet shocks :) | 18:39 |
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| +snapcount | ahh... well in that case find a kid in your neighborhood running a lemonade stand and give them a shot at making some good money... no one will miss them =P | 18:40 |
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| +snapcount | 10 cents a cup... I'll give you $50.00... all you have to do is... | 18:41 |
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| lisette | hi perlDreamer | 18:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | Good morning, lisette | 18:51 |
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| lisette | perlDreamer: do you know how to do a macro to process the score of a survey in mode quiz? | 18:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | I'm sure it can be done. | 18:55 |
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| lisette | how? | 18:58 |
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| lisette | i found in table Survey_response | 18:59 |
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| lisette | but i don't found the score by user | 18:59 |
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| +perlDreamer | lisette, the score is not stored in the database, but calculated based on how many questions were answered correctly | 19:02 |
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| +perlDreamer | In the Survey code, look for the string questions.correct.count and it will show you the score calculating code. | 19:02 |
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| lisette | i need to know the total score by user (in % or other) by process and save in other database, Also need to put time limits for responding to, for example 1 day, or hour to the survey | 19:02 |
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| lisette | ok | 19:02 |
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| lisette | cual es la ruta para encontrar el survey.pm? | 19:07 |
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