| --- Log opened Thu Nov 01 00:00:08 2007 | ||
| +MrHairgrease | oh man | 00:19 |
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| +MrHairgrease | spectre is so cool! | 00:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks for creating it! | 00:19 |
| +Radix_ | ? | 00:43 |
| * Radix_ likes the new WebGUI roadmap, but wonders why he got four copies of the same email. | 00:44 | |
| @preaction | might've been Tavis editing it a bit, or maybe he cross-posted | 00:48 |
| +Radix_ | might want to mention to tavis that editing it does that so he knows in future :) | 00:50 |
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| +perlDreamer | mighty quiet tonight | 03:53 |
| +perlDreamer | Is everyone trick or treating? | 03:53 |
| @apeiron | Been pretty dead around here with regard to that. About 10 people the entire night. | 04:23 |
| @apeiron | And it's 10:30 here. | 04:23 |
| @apeiron | Might be because the kids have school the next day or something. I dunno. | 04:24 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:30 |
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| AMH_bob | And greetings to you too! | 15:39 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4921 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Matrix hoverhelp fixes | 15:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4922 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): more matrix hoverhelp fixes | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4923 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.4.12 release | 16:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4924 /releases/WebGUI_7.4.12-stable: Release 7.4.12-stable | 16:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4925 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.4.13 dev | 17:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4926 /WebGUI/ (9 files in 5 dirs): merging 7.4 changes | 20:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4927 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.4.12-7.5.0.pl: add missing module use line to upgrade script | 21:03 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4928 /wrebuild/wre/ (docs/changelog.txt sbin/wreconsole.pl): fix: WRE 0.8 Services Controller screen lists apache's in the wrong order. | 22:03 |
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| --- Day changed Fri Nov 02 2007 | ||
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| wgGuest48 | root/tempspace, what is it used for? | 01:08 |
| @preaction_ | temporary files | 01:09 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4929 /WebGUI/ (t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm lib/WebGUI/Session/Privilege.pm): | 06:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add a missing use line in Session/Privilege.pm. | 06:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Try to completely clean up all session related stuff from each test. | 06:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4930 /WebGUI/t/lib/WebGUI/Test.pm: var->end already does a scratch->deleteAll | 06:33 |
| @rizen | root/tempspace is used for temporary assets. currently just the wiki uploads | 06:34 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4931 /WebGUI/t/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add a test stub for DeleteExpiredSessions. To be filled in soon :) | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4932 /WebGUI/t/Workflow/Activity/DeleteExpiredSessions.t: add plan for testing. Fill in with code later | 07:03 |
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| +Radix_ | How goes it bartjol? :) Got your license yet? | 13:03 |
| bartjol | not jet | 13:03 |
| bartjol | yet | 13:03 |
| +Radix_ | still working at it eh? :) | 13:03 |
| bartjol | how is thee gooey underwear | 13:04 |
| +Radix_ | underwear? | 13:04 |
| bartjol | sure | 13:04 |
| bartjol | gooey strings for men | 13:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | bart | 13:04 |
| +Radix_ | Umm.. I think koen is the only one with those | 13:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | time for lunch! | 13:04 |
| +Radix_ | enjoy :) | 13:04 |
| bartjol | they don't excist | 13:04 |
| bartjol | ah... | 13:05 |
| bartjol | lunch! | 13:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 13:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | lunch | 13:05 |
| bartjol | surry raqdix, I was confused | 13:07 |
| bartjol | thought you were one of them plainblack guys | 13:07 |
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| +Radix_ | lol | 13:09 |
| bartjol | bye | 13:58 |
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| SDuensin | FRIDAY!!!!! | 15:25 |
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| nutrino | TGIF | 16:11 |
| nutrino | TGIPD | 16:11 |
| @rizen | TGIPD? | 16:11 |
| nutrino | pay day | 16:13 |
| nutrino | one could even go as far as saying TGIN | 16:13 |
| nutrino | november ;) | 16:13 |
| @rizen | TGNEUAFE | 17:03 |
| @rizen | thank god not everyone uses abbreviations for everything | 17:03 |
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| wgGuest19 | What is the easiest way to load WebGUI to a linux server? | 18:09 |
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| @khenn | download the WRE 0.8.0 and run the setup | 18:29 |
| @khenn | it will download and install webgui for you | 18:29 |
| @khenn | and set up the enviornment | 18:29 |
| @khenn | environment even =p | 18:29 |
| wgGuest19 | i loaded the files onto linux with ftp server | 18:32 |
| wgGuest19 | how do I set the set environment from there? | 18:33 |
| nuba | dont you have a shell there? | 18:39 |
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| wgGuest19 | what is a shell ? | 18:40 |
| nuba | do you own the box, or have root privs there? | 18:40 |
| nuba | can you ssh to it, and "do stuff"? | 18:41 |
| wgGuest19 | its a student account | 18:41 |
| @apeiron | And they let you have modperl? | 18:42 |
| nuba | download the wre, read the included documentation, and check the webgui wiki | 18:42 |
| nuba | if you dont understand whats involved, you better get a hosted webgui somewhere else, | 18:42 |
| nuba | or get yourself someone to help you, someone who'll understand it | 18:43 |
| wgGuest19 | ok, thanks | 18:43 |
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| nuba | or else prepare yourself to spend some considerable amount of time experimenting with it and raising your level so that you'll understand it | 18:43 |
| nuba | oh he left already | 18:43 |
| nuba | bummer | 18:43 |
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| perlDreamer | Do I have to create a workflow to house a workflow activity that I want to test? | 19:33 |
| perlDreamer | or can I just have it standalone? | 19:33 |
| perlDreamer | oh, and SynQ, 3 out of 4 Kuskies love stroopwaffles | 19:34 |
| @rizen | for now you need a workflow | 19:34 |
| perlDreamer | and #4 is just being stubborn :) | 19:34 |
| @rizen | i'm working on a stand alone tester, but it doesn't work yet | 19:34 |
| perlDreamer | So I can't just do : MyActivity->new($session); $activity->execute() | 19:35 |
| @rizen | you can, but then you also have to do the work that the workflow engine does | 19:38 |
| @rizen | meaning create the objects that need to be passed in to execute | 19:38 |
| perlDreamer | This is deleteExpiredSessions, I may try the cheap way since it doesn't take any objects | 19:41 |
| perlDreamer | but I won't go crazy on testing the rest yet | 19:41 |
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| perlDreamer | Haarg: Contrary to our previous discussion, I'm working on merging my latest test fix back into 7.4 | 20:01 |
| perlDreamer | it should make testing 7.4 previous to release easier | 20:02 |
| perlDreamer | s/previous/prior/ | 20:02 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4933 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix a session bug where, when using noFuss, user session scratch was not cleaned up | 20:03 |
| perlDreamer | yes, that's the one | 20:03 |
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| elnino | where do I find out what uilevel I need to give a user in order to give them a particluar wobject? | 20:13 |
| perlDreamer | short answer: this has been answered in the wiki and the forums before | 20:14 |
| perlDreamer | long answer: it's a combination of source code and WebGUI config file | 20:14 |
| @apeiron | I'm having issues getting the test for Spectre::Workflow (just checked in, you should see it once CIA wakes up) to properly return data. I'm absolutely certain there are active workflows (and the test adds one, just to be absolutely certain), because running spectre.pl --status shows them. Why am I getting an empty hashref in my test as a return from getJsonStatus? Yes, I've commented out the line that returns '{}' if no site is passe | 20:17 |
| perlDreamer | apeiron, I think you got clipped | 20:17 |
| @apeiron | perlDreamer: At which point, please? | 20:17 |
| perlDreamer | "if no site is passe" | 20:18 |
| perlDreamer | I've thought that sites may have been passe' | 20:18 |
| elnino | perlDreamer - I looked on the wiki, didn't see any there. And in the config file, it just has a list of wobject, and no uilevels in it....? | 20:18 |
| @apeiron | heh | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4934 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (6 files in 6 dirs): backport fix from trunk and document session scratch bugfix | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4935 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: forward port changelog from user session scratch bugfix | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4936 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t t/Spectre): | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Work towards having Spectre::Workflow::getJsonStatus return information about | 20:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: all sites, needed for munging workflow monitoring into wremonitor.pl. | 20:18 |
| @apeiron | perlDreamer: Looks like it's just missing a 'd.' | 20:19 |
| @apeiron | "Yes, I've commented out the line that returns '{}' if no site is passed." <-- that's the end of my statement | 20:19 |
| elnino | the only applicable wiki I could find was this: http://www.plainblack.com/community-wiki/ui-levels but it doesn't tell me anything about the levesl of each object. | 20:21 |
| perlDreamer | you're right. I was confusing that (form fields) with the overall UI level for the Asset. | 20:23 |
| perlDreamer | In that case, it looks like reading through the source code. | 20:23 |
| perlDreamer | the default is 1, unless specified in the definition sub | 20:24 |
| perlDreamer | or overridden in the WebGUI config file | 20:24 |
| elnino | hmm. second time you mentioned webgui config file.. Is there a special statement in there that can set the ui level? I didn't see anything there. I have 7.3.22, but was using 7.21 Maybe my config file doesn't have it because I've upgraded without changing my config file? | 20:26 |
| perlDreamer | that is possible | 20:27 |
| perlDreamer | when referred to the WebGUI config file, it always pays to read WebGUI.conf.original | 20:27 |
| elnino | so If I upgrade a user from 5 to 9 to get additional wojects, what else are they going to have access to other than the additional wobject. You mentioned form fields? - like?? | 20:28 |
| perlDreamer | some tabs in the edit forms have uiLevels that are higher than 5 | 20:29 |
| perlDreamer | additional settings like cache timeout | 20:29 |
| perlDreamer | which wobject would you like to give your content managers access to/ | 20:30 |
| elnino | I just did it the hardway.. by increasing the ui level one at a time to see when they would get the redirect wobject. I'll look in the original www config file to see if there are statements in there that I canadd to mine. Thanks! | 20:31 |
| perlDreamer | I'll work on adding a page to the wiki. | 20:35 |
| perlDreamer | If you'd like to help out, it would be great. | 20:35 |
| elnino | yep, I'm going thru all the ui's and documentingn it, so I can put in the wobject stuff in. I was going to put it up there on the ui-levels' page, but if you want to start a different page, that would be great too. | 20:36 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.plainblack.com/community-wiki/asset-ui-levels | 20:37 |
| perlDreamer | It could use some formatting help, but it's a start | 20:37 |
| perlDreamer | note, in order to get to the table, you have to edit the HTML directly | 20:38 |
| perlDreamer | the RTE table controls aren't enabled for the webgui.org wiki | 20:39 |
| elnino | that's fine. ok, I'm almost done. I suppose there may have some changees, but at least it documents 7.3.22 | 20:39 |
| elnino | alsmost done with my changing of ui's that is, I'll get to the wiki soon. | 20:39 |
| perlDreamer | :) | 20:39 |
| elnino | perldreamer. hmm, my results were different than yours... did you over ride yours? or maybe they are different between versions? I have 7.3.22 | 20:50 |
| @apeiron | apeiron-- # not realising I need to restart spectre and not just modperl when mucking with /data/WebGUI/lib/Spectre/* modules | 20:51 |
| @apeiron | Good thing is, the code that I could swear up down left right and sideways is right actually *is* right. :) | 20:52 |
| perlDreamer | elnino: I used a quick and dirty find/grep script to pull out the data. It could be wrong, but it should be double checked against the source code. | 20:54 |
| perlDreamer | which ones do you think are wrong? | 20:54 |
| perlDreamer | Also, if anyone has a non-WRE WebGUI running on Suse, debian or Ubuntu, I'd love to see what you think of this bug: http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/failing-sql_t-test-in-nightly-smoke-tests#SETlh5pZ68XBr7GrgqmPeQ | 20:55 |
| * perlDreamer goes away for a while for lunch | 20:58 | |
| perlDreamer | bbl | 20:58 |
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| elnino | I posted mine under a different column, in case your's was a different version. i'm assuming you have 7.4.x Everyone else is welcome to correct our info! | 21:10 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4937 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t): | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fixups for the tests. I moved the nested key checking into a TODO block. I'm | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: not sure how to handle them, as they may / may not exist in the %output hash. | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Sometimes they'll pass, sometimes they won't, depending upon the time you run | 21:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: it and the status of Spectre overall. | 21:33 |
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| perlDreamer | apeiron, in your ref checks, try using ref_ok or isa_ok | 23:09 |
| perlDreamer | they will save you a lot of typing :) | 23:10 |
| @apeiron | perlDreamer++ Ah, okay, thanks. :) | 23:10 |
| perlDreamer | I've been learning tons from O'Reilly's Perl Test Developers book. I highly recommend it. | 23:11 |
| @apeiron | Ooh, the Developer's Notebook one? | 23:11 |
| perlDreamer | Yeah, by Ian Langworth and chromatic | 23:11 |
| @apeiron | Sounds good. I'll need to check into it. Thanks for the reminder. :) | 23:12 |
| perlDreamer | It's cool to see some spectre tests. I'm glad you're writing them. | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | I hacked together a crude Workflow Activity test today, for deleteExpiredSessions to fix a bug found by mlamar | 23:14 |
| @preaction | you could build a WebGUI::Test::Maker for workflow activities, just throwing that out there | 23:15 |
| @preaction | one for Macros would probably be nice too | 23:15 |
| perlDreamer | I'll look into that. | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | It will give me a reason to use that and really learn how it works. | 23:16 |
| @preaction | it's almost stupidly simple, but that's why it's awesome ;) | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | apeiron, Test::Deep may be a good read, too. | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | It's nice for easily validating data structures. | 23:17 |
| @apeiron | hmm. | 23:17 |
| @preaction | is_deeply works, no? | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | yes, but it's kind of like hatchets instead of chain saws for cutting down trees | 23:18 |
| @preaction | ahh | 23:18 |
| @preaction | i've been using is_deeply to compare arrays or hashes mostly, nothing truly complex yet | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | Once you move up to objects, it will help a lot. | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | This hash key contains an array ref which may not contains any words like foo | 23:19 |
| @preaction | automatically sorts and does fun stuff like that? kind of like Storable::canonical? | 23:19 |
| @preaction | ooooooh | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | yeah | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | have a look at t/DatabaseLink.t | 23:20 |
| perlDreamer | near the create bank of tests for a cmp_deeply call | 23:21 |
| perlDreamer | I also like using it just for the nice diagnostics when simple data structures fail. | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | is_deeply stops at the first difference | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | cmp_deeply goes the next mile and checks the whole structure and tells you what's extra and/or missing | 23:23 |
| @apeiron | If I'm going to send email on behalf of WebGUI for an automated process (like, say, a monitor application), is there a method I can call to get a 'from' email address, like, say, the site administrator or something? | 23:26 |
| @preaction | $session->config->get("companyEmail") i think | 23:28 |
| @preaction | it's something in the settings, not config | 23:28 |
| @preaction | so session->settings->get | 23:29 |
| @apeiron | Ah, thank you. | 23:29 |
| @preaction | it should be that From by default though | 23:29 |
| @apeiron | (intelligent design)++ | 23:30 |
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| perlDreamer | So.... | 00:53 |
| perlDreamer | I noticed that my WRE bug hasn't been fixed yet. | 00:53 |
| perlDreamer | What are you guys doing, trying to work for a living? ;) | 00:53 |
| @preaction | s/to/to avoid/ | 00:57 |
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| @apeiron | A bit old, but nonetheless awesome: http://perlbuzz.com/project-hum/2007/10/perl-5100-nears-code-freeze-release.html | 01:02 |
| perlDreamer | Do we know when the WRE will upgrade to 5.10? | 01:06 |
| perlDreamer | or, if? | 01:06 |
| perlDreamer | Warnock applies... | 01:14 |
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| @apeiron | perlDreamer: Should've asked during the WUC. :) | 01:39 |
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| BartJol | Hi Radix | 15:26 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: dionak * r4939 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Operation/User.pm: If there are over 250 users, none are currently displayed. Added message to user in this case. | 22:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: dionak * r4940 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: Added operation user rfe doc to changelog | 23:03 |
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| @apeiron | meh. itunes declared DRM-crippled. | 23:19 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hey rizen | 17:08 |
| +MrHairgrease | do you have time to think along a bit? | 17:08 |
| @rizen | i have 4 minutes before I have to leave the house. | 17:09 |
| @rizen | can you think that quickly? | 17:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | prolly not | 17:09 |
| @rizen | if so, i'm all yours | 17:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'll write something on the dev list | 17:09 |
| @rizen | ok. | 17:10 |
| @rizen | sorry | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | it has to do with the Post/Thread thing | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | no problem | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's your weekend too =) | 17:10 |
| @rizen | ok, yeah, throw it out there and i'll read and respond later | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 17:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks | 17:10 |
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| wgGuest51 | Hello, anyone out there. I'm dhelsten and have been on irc a couple times. I'm having difficulty troubleshooting a problem with my site. | 22:17 |
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| wgGuest51 | I'm on Ubuntu 6.06 and WRE 0.7.2 with WG version 7.4.11. | 22:22 |
| wgGuest51 | The domain access logs have only activity from wremonitor and when I access the site using the ip address. | 22:29 |
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| wgGuest51 | I've checked my etc/hosts file and my first line reads 127.0.0.1 localhost [computername] mydomain.com www.mydomain.com | 22:33 |
| wgGuest51 | The strange thing is that the site was working just fine before and without any changes this happened | 22:34 |
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| bartjol | xootom? | 15:31 |
| bartjol | already some luck with your useresonline macro? | 15:31 |
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| xootom | bartjol, no i had spectre problems recently and have had too many other things to do, but i will be back on track this week | 16:16 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 18:21 |
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| bartjol | hi Sduensin | 18:42 |
| bartjol | bye | 18:42 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4942 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t): (log message trimmed) | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Lots of fixes. | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: 1. Restore original getJsonStatus functionality of returning data for just one | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: site, if sitename is passed. | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: 2. Add a few comments to Spectre::Workflow::getJsonStatus to help explain what's | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: going on, and also add some whitespace to separate the code into logical pieces. | 19:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: 3. Add tests for this functionality, doubling the number of tests for | 19:03 |
| @apeiron | CIA-18, I added more than three fixes! grr. | 19:05 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4943 /wrebuild/wre/ (5 files in 3 dirs): added the wre upgrade system, and the first upgrade to 0.8.1 | 20:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4944 /wrebuild/wre/ (docs/changelog.txt t/File.t): Added more WRE::File tests. (William McKee / Knowmad) | 20:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4945 /WebGUI/ (lib/Spectre/Workflow.pm t/Spectre/Workflow.t): Fix backwards compatability with existing code. Update the tests accordingly. | 22:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4946 /wrebuild/wre/ (docs/changelog.txt sbin/wreconsole.pl): fix: Can't install with non-default MySQL User on Windows | 00:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4947 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix EMS in IE with reset style | 00:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4948 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4947 via svnmerge from | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4947 | graham | 2007-11-05 16:32:37 -0600 (Mon, 05 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix EMS in IE with reset style | 01:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 01:03 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: doug * r4949 /branch/photogallery/WebGUI/ (5 files in 4 dirs): more work. completed GalleryAlbum. started Gallery. | 06:33 |
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| dapperedodo | Is the webgui.org site down? | 09:12 |
| +Radix-wrk | Hmm.. seems like it | 09:12 |
| +Radix-wrk | plainblack.com too | 09:13 |
| +Radix-wrk | must just be that server tho.. demo.plainblack.com is up | 09:14 |
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| +Radix-wrk | It's all bob's fault! | 09:17 |
| dapperedodo | That must be the case:) | 09:17 |
| +Radix-wrk | So how was the WUC this year? good fun? | 09:18 |
| dapperedodo | yes, Madison is not so bad after all | 09:19 |
| dapperedodo | And there are a lot of new features coming | 09:19 |
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| +Radix-wrk | Cool - whoever the photographer was (s)he liked you guys - lots of photos of you, martin, koen and bart :) | 09:19 |
| +Radix-wrk | http://www.plainblack.com/uploads/y6/wE/y6wEOm2ctrVKWAt9ihAR0w/WUC-2007---10-17-07-111.jpg | 09:19 |
| +Radix-wrk | If pb.com was up then you'd be able to see that link :) | 09:19 |
| +Radix-wrk | preaction: you to blame for webgui.org and plainblack.com being dead? :) | 09:20 |
| @preaction | no | 09:20 |
| +Radix-wrk | So it WAS bob! | 09:20 |
| @preaction | that jerk, making me wake up at 1:20AM | 09:20 |
| * Radix-wrk pokes AMH_bob, saying "Cmon, no fun teasing you if you don't respond!" | 09:25 | |
| dapperedodo | I think he is still waking up with a nice cup of coffee | 09:26 |
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| AMH_bob | Yep, I'm back and you better not blame me! | 10:05 |
| AMH_bob | Hi preaction, midnight movies again? | 10:06 |
| @preaction | not so much, babysitting support tickets | 10:06 |
| AMH_bob | In the middle of the night? | 10:08 |
| @preaction | not plainblack support, plainblack.com is down | 10:11 |
| @preaction | er... was down until 10 seconds ago | 10:11 |
| AMH_bob | Hmmmm, great - I had that friday night, I had to get op at 4am and lost quite a bit of sleep... | 10:17 |
| AMH_bob | But the shift is on to the next guy now and I back to a full nights sleep! | 10:20 |
| @preaction | lucky git. i think that was proposed, but it was just JT and I for a few months over the summer, and it remains us now | 10:24 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4950 /wrebuild/wre/ (sbin/wremonitor.pl lib/WRE/Spectre.pm): | 18:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add service-specific monitoring hooks for the four monitored aspects of the | 18:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: WRE, starting with Spectre. Stubs are in place for the other three and can be | 18:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: extended in similar fashion. | 18:33 |
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| wgGuest58 | hello folks | 22:41 |
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| polar_action | anyone in? | 22:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | only if it's a quicky =) | 22:47 |
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| wgGuest44 | sry | 22:51 |
| wgGuest44 | dunno what happened there | 22:51 |
| wgGuest44 | missed any answer | 22:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | what was the question? | 22:52 |
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| polar_action1 | polar_action question above :o) | 22:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | you mean: 'anyone in?' | 22:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | well obviously =) | 22:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | well have to go afk | 22:55 |
| +MrHairgrease | post your question and maybe i can answer it later | 22:55 |
| polar_action1 | in the forum you mean??? | 22:55 |
| polar_action1 | ta | 22:55 |
| polar_action1 | thanks... | 22:55 |
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| wgGuest70 | any ideas how i can manually restart the spectre service in windows xp? | 00:37 |
| wgGuest70 | i try the restart/start button in the console but i get the message, that the service had already started | 00:37 |
| +Radix_ | restart windows? :) | 00:39 |
| +Radix_ | the three R's of Microsoft tech support - retry, reboot, reinstall | 00:39 |
| wgGuest70 | yeah.. i've done that a few times :o) | 00:41 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4951 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 5 dirs): | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add the groupToEditPost field to the Collaboration system. This allows users | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: to specify a group of users that will always be able to do edits on posts, | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: regardless of whether they own those posts and independent of the editTimeout | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: field. | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4952 /WebGUI/t/Asset/ (Post.t Wobject/Collaboration.t): | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Don't delete the groups used in the Post test, they're needed. May want to make | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: mock groups in the future. Also clean up some commented out things from | 01:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Collaboration.t. | 01:18 |
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| elnino | hi. | 01:41 |
| elnino | I have to approve commited versions, and I can't seem to figure ou how to view their changes. When I go to view the revision, the lock icon is there, so I can't view the changes to the asset's properties. Am I missing something? | 01:42 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4953 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/upgrade_7.4.12-7.5.0.pl: duh. Need to *call* the sub I added to the upgrade script. | 01:48 |
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| @preaction | elnino, go to your inbox, you'll see the message that new content awaits your approval, you'll be able to peruse it from there | 02:15 |
| elnino | Hi. Thanks for the response. That is where I've gone to view revision, and I see the page, but the changes she made were in the properties of the page layout, but I couldn't view them, because the lock icon was there in place of the edit button. | 02:17 |
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| dionak | i have a navigation element that is intended to show sub pages of a site, for instance a left nav element. i want to only show items in each sub area. how do i configure the nav asset to do this? | 05:26 |
| dionak | i've tried several settings and am not getting what i want | 05:27 |
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| polar_action | hello, is anyone alive in here? | 13:20 |
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| +Radix_ | no | 14:05 |
| polar_action | me either :o) | 14:06 |
| polar_action | im wondering if you know how to setup a simple comparison matrix example, or can point me to a help page somewhere? | 14:07 |
| +Radix_ | Never used the matrix I'm afraid | 14:07 |
| +Radix_ | I assume there's nothing in the wiki about it? | 14:07 |
| polar_action | nope :o( | 14:08 |
| polar_action | i have a matrix with some products, but don't know how to link that to any data.. | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | not much I can suggest really.. cept play with it until you sus it out | 14:09 |
| polar_action | yeah... thats what im up to | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | use the demo.plainblack.com site to mess around with it perhaps | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | if you don't want to mess up your own site | 14:09 |
| +Radix_ | I know cmsmatrix.org is built using it | 14:10 |
| polar_action | will do.. i hadn;t seen that. thanks | 14:10 |
| polar_action | yeah.. it was one of the guys on the compare sites that recommended it | 14:10 |
| polar_action | its just documentation for demo users like myslef is a bit scarce | 14:10 |
| polar_action | thanks anyway.. out for lunch but will be back later... | 14:11 |
| polar_action | if anyone else in here knows about the "matrix", please get in touch, thanks :o) | 14:11 |
| +Radix_ | Yeah, well might be worth picking up the content managers guide from PB then - worthwhile having for newbies and helps PB too | 14:12 |
| bartjol | > Polar action I have an old WebGUI version, 7.3.22, which contains some information on the matrix (it's still includsed in the help) | 14:21 |
| bartjol | I can print it to pdf and email them to you | 14:22 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:52 |
| bartjol | hi | 16:42 |
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| polar_action | hi bartjol | 16:46 |
| polar_action | that would be smashing if you could do that | 16:47 |
| polar_action | if you are there!!! | 16:47 |
| * polar_action just notices the time message was left at :o) | 16:47 | |
| bartjol | I'm still here | 16:51 |
| polar_action | pheww :o) | 16:51 |
| bartjol | :) | 16:51 |
| bartjol | it's your lucky day | 16:52 |
| polar_action | it sure is!! email addy is polar_action@hotmail.com | 16:52 |
| polar_action | ive been stuggling through all the options and just don't seem to "get it" | 16:52 |
| bartjol | well, i will be printing for a while then | 16:53 |
| polar_action | :o) | 16:53 |
| bartjol | sending.... | 17:00 |
| bartjol | mind that it is for another version, so changes might occur | 17:01 |
| polar_action | ok. many thanks | 17:07 |
| bartjol | good luck | 17:07 |
| polar_action | im just trying to do something really simple like a really simplified version of http://www.comparecanines.com/ | 17:07 |
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| bartjol | ah, ok well that should be possible, but some help files are usefull | 17:09 |
| bartjol | never tried it myself though | 17:09 |
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| polar_action | here i go!! | 17:14 |
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| perlDreamer | Is there a release going out today? | 19:29 |
| perlDreamer | I was thinking of fixing a bug this morning, but don't want to booger anything up | 19:29 |
| perlDreamer | for y'all | 19:29 |
| @khenn | I'm not sure. I think JT is out. Graham might be doing a release. He's in IRC but might be busy | 19:30 |
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| perlDreamer | Haarg: ping | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | wake up! | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | ? | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | oh | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | release today? or is it safe to fix bugs this morning? | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | safe to fix bugs | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | thanks, man! | 19:35 |
| @Haarg | i want to get a few more in before pushing the release | 19:35 |
| perlDreamer | what would be a good deadline for me? | 19:36 |
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| perlDreamer | I may not have spare time until this afternoon | 19:36 |
| @Haarg | 5pm central i guess | 19:36 |
| perlDreamer | I'll do what I can | 19:37 |
| perlDreamer | If there's any big changes, please email me | 19:37 |
| @Haarg | sure | 19:37 |
| perlDreamer | $dayJob is deciding whether or not IRC is legal to use | 19:37 |
| perlDreamer | grrrrrr | 19:37 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4954 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration.pm: copy CS sorting fix from branch | 19:48 |
| polar_action | hi folks | 20:24 |
| polar_action | i've started a demo webgui and see it lasts for a day... but is that 24 full hours?? or does it get binned at midnight? | 20:25 |
| polar_action | anyone know? | 20:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno | 20:25 |
| @Haarg | 24 hours | 20:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | you had a question yesterday right? | 20:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | is it solved yet? | 20:26 |
| polar_action | yeah, thanks MrHair | 20:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 20:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | good | 20:29 |
| polar_action | im such a n00b, and missed a section in the forums | 20:29 |
| polar_action | thanks Haarg | 20:29 |
| polar_action | also, is it possible to export the data from the demo, to my installation? | 20:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno what you're doing | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | but the way to do that is to make a package of your asset | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | export that | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | and import in your other site | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | you can make a package of asset by editing them | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | going to the misc tab | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | and set make package to yes | 20:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | misc tab = metadata tab | 20:31 |
| polar_action | cool.. i'll give it a try | 20:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | to export it the package | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | go to the asset manager | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | it'll be somewhere at the bottom of the page | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | use the export button to actually export is | 20:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | importing again is also done through the asset manager | 20:32 |
| polar_action | i;ll give it a go once ive finalised my matrix | 20:36 |
| polar_action | thanks for the help | 20:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 20:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | np | 20:36 |
| polar_action | oh!! last question, i promise (for now)... | 20:41 |
| polar_action | how can i edit the default colors that were set at installation? | 20:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | you mean with the site starter? | 20:42 |
| polar_action | yes, i think so | 20:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | checking it out right now | 20:43 |
| polar_action | im not going to get into templates and stuff just now... only if the client likes the matrix | 20:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | hold on | 20:43 |
| polar_action | and if they do i'll invest in the documentation! | 20:43 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmm | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's pretty new | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | and I have never used it | 20:44 |
| polar_action | :o) so thats good. It's not just me :oD | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | i guess it just writes out some css to a snippet or so | 20:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 20:45 |
| polar_action | yeah.. no doubt.. but im only 1 day into using this so it'll take some time for me to figure | 20:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | my-style.css | 20:45 |
| polar_action | and on the demo that'll not be available :o( | 20:45 |
| polar_action | oh well.. no worries.. i'll do that stuff on my own installation 2morrow | 20:46 |
| polar_action | once again, thanks MrH | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok do this | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | you can edit the css file like this | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | add the following to the gateway of your site | 20:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | so on demo that would be after the demp123_etc/ part | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | /root/import/my-style.css?func=edit | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | be sure to be logged in as admin | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno how to get the site starter interface back (if at all possible) | 20:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | good luck | 20:48 |
| polar_action | thanks.. it turns out that the some matrix stuff is embedded html and not in the mystyle.css, | 20:51 |
| polar_action | its not that important just now | 20:51 |
| polar_action | cheers | 20:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | heh that's funny | 20:52 |
| +MrHairgrease | i was just about to go out and grab a couple of beers =) | 20:52 |
| polar_action | go and get the beers :o) | 20:53 |
| polar_action | im done for this evening anyway | 20:53 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks for the advice | 20:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | sound quite sound | 20:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'll be off then | 20:54 |
| +MrHairgrease | later | 20:54 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4955 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix backslash doubling on ical import | 21:03 |
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| XSLord | hello everyone! | 21:12 |
| XSLord | i have just came across WebGUI (weel 2b honest a couple of weeks ago) | 21:13 |
| XSLord | at the moment i am testing/evaluating joomla, drupal, silverstripe and also wordpress | 21:14 |
| XSLord | webgui looks quite promising, the downside is that it doesn't look like you could installed on an hosting (like joomla, drupal, etc...) | 21:16 |
| XSLord | still i would like to know is there any chance that there will be such a version? | 21:16 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4956 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4955 via svnmerge from | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4955 | graham | 2007-11-07 12:53:40 -0600 (Wed, 07 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix backslash doubling on ical import | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4957 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/ (changelog/7.x.x.txt upgrades/upgrade_7.4.12-7.4.13.pl): remove old Events Calendar templates | 21:48 |
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| perlDreamer | Haarg: I'm having some problems merging in the upgrade file. Any suggestions? | 21:55 |
| perlDreamer | merging from branch back to trunk, that is | 21:55 |
| @Haarg | hmm | 21:56 |
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| @Haarg | that's a bit wierd, because the upgrade script will be copied into the trunk | 21:57 |
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| elnino | Hi. anyone out there know anything about having japanese or chinese webpages? Do I have to install fonts or something on my linux machine? | 21:57 |
| perlDreamer | Haarg: maybe I should merge just the upgrade script | 21:58 |
| perlDreamer | in any case, if you don't see it in trunk when you tape out, I'm still having problems :) | 21:58 |
| @Haarg | well, i'll be copying the branch upgrade script to trunk, after the upgrade anyway | 21:59 |
| perlDreamer | I'll let you do it then. That way we won't be stepping on each others toes. | 22:00 |
| elnino | anyone out there experinced in any multi language sites and using webgui? | 22:43 |
| elnino | does webgui support UTF-8 Unicode? | 22:43 |
| perlDreamer | I think you can set the encoding in your templates. | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | I'd recommend looking in the forums, or perhaps digging into one of the non-american | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | WebGUI sites, like oqapi.nl, or procolix.com | 23:17 |
| elnino | hi perldreamer. after reading some more, my linux machine is utf, which I get the impression that that is a prerequisite. I searched the forums for utf and unicode with not much luck. I'll look some more. | 23:26 |
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| nutrino | any documentation on updating my puggable auth module to work with the new Auth.pm? for cross domain state, and whatever new stuff was introduced lately | 00:18 |
| nutrino | if not i can pry just make the module again based on the new Auth.pm | 00:20 |
| nutrino | uh oh. | 00:36 |
| nutrino | tried to revert back and im still seeing the error. | 00:36 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4958 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): | 00:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fix the groupToEditPost field defaulting to the groupIdEdit field. Make sure | 00:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: that the added collab system in the test has a parent asset as well, to ensure | 00:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: that the inheritance works properly. | 00:48 |
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| nutrino | Where is the password change form? | 01:48 |
| nutrino | nvm , found the script | 01:50 |
| nutrino | had to set a static login for my users. man im ashamed. | 01:52 |
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| +perlDreamer | Any news on the release? Did it go okay? | 06:56 |
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| +perlDreamer | are there any non-bot people awake? | 06:58 |
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| +Radix-wrk | pd: no | 07:08 |
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| perlDreame1 | no, you're not awake, or no, no news on the release? | 07:23 |
| perlDreame1 | You australians confuse me! | 07:23 |
| perlDreame1 | irc seems a little touchy tonight | 07:24 |
| +Radix-wrk | It's 2.30pm here :) | 07:28 |
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| +Radix-wrk | and no, was whether there were any non-bot people awake :) | 07:28 |
| perlDreame1 | How was your sabbatical? | 07:35 |
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| perlDreame1 | preaction: ping | 07:47 |
| @preaction | sup | 07:47 |
| perlDreame1 | No release today? | 07:47 |
| @preaction | dunno, not my department anymore | 07:47 |
| perlDreame1 | What, you guys don't talk anymore? :) | 07:47 |
| perlDreame1 | I found a bad Help bug and fixed it. | 07:48 |
| @preaction | not much, i've got a one-track goal: Gallery | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4959 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 5 dirs): fix bad import of help template variables. Loops are now handled correctly. Added a test with supporting collateral to make sure this does not happen again | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4960 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (5 files in 5 dirs): backport Help variable fix from trunk | 07:48 |
| perlDreame1 | yup, that's the one | 07:48 |
| perlDreame1 | thanks CIA-18 | 07:48 |
| @preaction | maybe graham's waiting for a bit yet | 07:49 |
| perlDreame1 | I'll send Haarg an email. | 07:49 |
| @preaction | we've got strange sleep cycles around here, i don't know his at all | 07:49 |
| @preaction | and we're having a meeting tomorrow, so he's gotta be up 9-5, so i dunno what he's doing for that | 07:49 |
| perlDreame1 | ok | 07:51 |
| perlDreame1 | well, there are no release commits or forum posts, so maybe I made it in under the deadline. | 07:52 |
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| +Radix-wrk | Sounds like it may be changed tomorrow anyway.. but until then! :) | 08:39 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4961 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/SQLForm.pm): fix missing field_loop in SQL Form template | 08:48 |
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| XSLord | hi everyone! | 13:19 |
| XSLord | is there anyone would be so kind to give an answer on a question on WbGUI i've got? | 13:20 |
| AMH_bob | Just give it a go, just be sure enough to wait and see if someone shows up who has the right answer | 13:23 |
| AMH_bob | (that could take a while...) | 13:23 |
| AMH_bob | :P | 13:23 |
| AMH_bob | @XSLord: I'm not kidding, just ask your question and wait a while, you most surely will get an answer. | 14:44 |
| +Radix_ | I agree with Bob.. ask.. and be patient and you'll be rewarded :) | 15:05 |
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| nutrino | Would preload.custom expect the directory my pluggable auth module resides in? | 15:19 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4962 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4961 via svnmerge from | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4961 | graham | 2007-11-08 00:33:40 -0600 (Thu, 08 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix missing field_loop in SQL Form template | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4963 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.4.13 release | 16:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4964 /releases/WebGUI_7.4.13-stable: Release 7.4.13-stable | 16:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4965 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.4.14 dev | 16:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4966 /WebGUI/docs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): merging 7.4 changes | 16:33 |
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| nutrino | phew | 17:04 |
| nutrino | fixed my issue by upgrading CGI.pm | 17:04 |
| nutrino | all signs pointed to that being the issue anyway. | 17:04 |
| nutrino | but why would CGI.pm break during an upgrade??? | 17:05 |
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| @apeiron | For the PIRG work that I'm doing (groupToEditPost field for CSs), do they have a dev server set up where I can apply the patch, or is there some other way they want me to provide this to them? | 18:26 |
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| @apeiron | Crap, boss's here, gotta look like we're working! | 18:44 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4967 /WebGUI/docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt: forward change notice for earlier commit about removing old templates | 20:18 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4968 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Asset/Wobject/Collaboration.pm: Gr. One more attempt at getting the default to work properly. | 21:48 |
| @apeiron | hmph. CIA jumped from -18 last night to -29 this afternoon. | 21:49 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: graham * r4969 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Form/File.pm): fix CS posts not allowing new attachments after deleting old ones | 01:03 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: dionak * r4970 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Operation/Group.pm: Adding message if group count exceeds 250 | 07:33 |
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| AMH_bob | Greetings. | 16:11 |
| SDuensin | Hey AMH_bob | 16:12 |
| AMH_bob | Hi SDuensin: No Greetings today? | 16:12 |
| SDuensin | Greetings! | 16:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | Greetings! | 16:13 |
| AMH_bob | Grrrrrrreat! | 16:16 |
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| wgGuest13 | When you create a pagelayout, must the namespace be left blank? | 16:49 |
| AMH_bob | No, you can fill in an URL kind of path | 17:04 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4971 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/ (Operation/Group.pm i18n/English/WebGUI.pm): internationalized the high group count message | 18:18 |
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| nutrino | is there a template variable to return true if a user is logged in? | 20:52 |
| AMH_henry | There's a User macro. maybe you can use that to determine whether user is logged in | 20:56 |
| nutrino | yah, the one that returns a user name | 20:56 |
| nutrino | i guess i could check to see if that is empty | 20:56 |
| AMH_henry | according to the doc, you can get any profile field | 20:57 |
| nutrino | cool | 20:57 |
| AMH_henry | btw, username won't be empty. it will be visitor i think | 20:57 |
| nutrino | ok | 20:57 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4972 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Session/Url.pm t/Session/Url.t): | 23:33 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: Start adding coverage to the getBackToSiteURL method. | 23:33 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: Remove the old commented out MockObject request code. It's PseudoRequest or bust. | 23:33 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: WGBP indent some of the Session/Url methods. | 23:33 |
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| perlDreamer | MrHairGrease: ping | 23:41 |
| perlDreamer | Art thou awake, oh European uber-hacker? | 23:41 |
| @apeiron | überhacker | 23:43 |
| perlDreamer | You're correct, of course. But finch may yack on special characters. | 23:43 |
| @apeiron | ooh, text mode. | 23:44 |
| perlDreamer | the lengths one must resort to to get on IRC | 23:44 |
| nuba | apeiron: that comes as überhacker here | 23:44 |
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| @apeiron | nuba, Should, my setup is AFAICT proper UTF-8. | 23:45 |
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| perlDreamer | well, let me ask the question generally and see what pops up. | 23:45 |
| nuba | mine isnt :) | 23:45 |
| perlDreamer | the SQL.t test needs to ask the database whether or not it has InnoDb installed in order | 23:45 |
| perlDreamer | to run tests on WebGUI's transaction handling. | 23:45 |
| perlDreamer | any ideas how to do that? | 23:45 |
| @apeiron | hmm | 23:46 |
| perlDreamer | that's why the smoke tests are failing in one place, btw | 23:46 |
| @apeiron | I'd try looking at whether you can query for it with SQL. | 23:46 |
| perlDreamer | I could try the MySQL dev site. | 23:46 |
| nuba | query is SHOW VARIABLES | 23:54 |
| nuba | or SHOW GLOBAL VARIABLES | 23:54 |
| nuba | or SHOW SESSION VARIABLES | 23:54 |
| nuba | depends on your mysql version | 23:54 |
| nuba | look for have_innodb | 23:54 |
| @apeiron | nuba++ | 23:54 |
| nuba | thx | 23:54 |
| nuba | does that actually give me some karma in webgui.org? | 23:55 |
| @apeiron | perlbot, karma nuba | 23:55 |
| perlbot | Karma for nuba: 1 | 23:55 |
| @apeiron | Not quite. | 23:55 |
| nuba | that'd be nice | 23:55 |
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| nuba | actually i can envision a future where this channel becomes a karma trading place | 23:56 |
| nuba | people coming from all around and trading features for karma etc | 23:56 |
| nuba | :) | 23:56 |
| elnino | hi. I have a cs system with "committ with approval" but their posts are coming thru automatically without need of approval. is this a bug, or a misunderstanding on my part? The peopel posting have edit permission and posting permissions to the cs. I'm using 7.3.22 | 23:56 |
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| perlDreamer | SHOW ENGINES is good, too, but I like nuba's solution better | 00:07 |
| perlDreamer | show global variables where Variable_name='have_innodb'; | 00:07 |
| perlDreamer | nuba: we'd need a bot that can talk to spectre, plus a custom workflow or 2 | 00:09 |
| perlDreamer | that would work | 00:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | elnino did you copmmit your version tag? | 00:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | else i dunno | 00:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | pd: pong | 00:24 |
| +MrHairgrease | but your question is answered already i presume | 00:24 |
| elnino | no, when the person saves the post, it doesn't get put into a version tag, it goes right thru. The site settings is set to "approval with commit" as well. I tried this myself, and the post goes immediately through. My understanding is that the way my settings are, that the new post should be manually approved right? Even if the poster is allowed edit permissions? | 00:25 |
| perlDreamer | MrHairGrease: that is so | 00:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | no i mean the version tag in which your cs is | 00:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | you chang the approval workflow | 00:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | after that you'll have to commit the change | 00:28 |
| @preaction | elnino, the collab system doesn't use the site's setting. you have to go to the security tab of the CS configuration to change the workflow it uses | 00:28 |
| @preaction | i believe that you should submit an RFE to have the "default" approval workflow for CSes be the site's default workflow (instead of Commit Without Approval like it is now) | 00:29 |
| @preaction | and i'm going to update the Gallery to fix that right away | 00:29 |
| elnino | right. I just mentioned it for more info. Both the site and the CS settings is the "commitwith approval" but a new post goes thru without aproval. | 00:29 |
| @preaction | is the CS committed? | 00:29 |
| @preaction | does your Commit With Approval workflow have the "Request Approval ..." workflow activity? | 00:30 |
| elnino | yes. the cs is already created, and has existing posts. New posts go thru without approval. if the post is modifed then it goes thru the approval process. | 00:30 |
| @preaction | what version are you running? | 00:30 |
| elnino | I don't know. it's the default approval workflow. I'm afraid to change those. The site changes work just great. 7.3.22 | 00:31 |
| @preaction | if you can reproduce using a demo site, it might be prudent to post a bug report | 00:31 |
| perlDreamer | lots of bugs have already been fixed between 7.3.22 and 7.4.today | 00:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok guys | 00:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | going to sleep | 00:32 |
| +MrHairgrease | later | 00:32 |
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| perlDreamer | Anyone have 5 minutes to try a test fix out for me? You need to have the WRE and a SVN copy of wG. | 00:42 |
| @preaction | sure | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | you'll need to do an update | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | WEBGUI_CONFIG=/data/WebGUI/etc/mywebgui.conf | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | cd /data/WebGUI/t | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | perl SQL.t | 00:43 |
| perlDreamer | you should see 7 skipped tests | 00:44 |
| perlDreamer | and no failing tests | 00:44 |
| @preaction | updating svn now | 00:44 |
| perlDreamer | preaction: did you see that I've started migrating the tests away from Test::MockObject over to | 00:45 |
| perlDreamer | your supercharted PseudoRequest? | 00:45 |
| perlDreamer | s/rted/rged/ | 00:46 |
| @preaction | looks like i got 7 failed but they show up as "skipped" to prove | 00:46 |
| @preaction | prove doesn't seem to like skip | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | it should be okay. | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | btw, where's rizen? | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | haven't seen him online for a while | 00:46 |
| @preaction | ahh: it worked once, but every time afterward it's died | 00:47 |
| perlDreamer | the test? | 00:47 |
| perlDreamer | hm | 00:47 |
| @preaction | he's on IRC when he's working (usually 9-5) | 00:47 |
| perlDreamer | paste? | 00:48 |
| @preaction | yeah, reproduced: the first time it does what you described, the second time it dies | 00:48 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4973 /WebGUI/t/SQL.t: add a prototype fix for not having InnoDB tables causing test errors | 00:48 |
| @preaction | perlbot pastebin | 00:49 |
| perlbot | (see paste) | 00:49 |
| @preaction | perlbot paste | 00:49 |
| perlbot | Paste your code to http://sial.org/pbot/perl http://erxz.com/pb or http://p3m.org/paste/fn/perl and #Perl will be able to view it. | 00:49 |
| @preaction | http://sial.org/pbot/28529 | 00:49 |
| perlDreamer | took a blind stab at a fix in 4974 | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | yeah, might have been a good blind stab | 00:51 |
| perlDreamer | I left the test table in place at the end of the test, but hid the cleanup | 00:51 |
| perlDreamer | inside the SKIP | 00:51 |
| perlDreamer | should work now | 00:51 |
| @preaction | k | 00:51 |
| @preaction | seems to work now | 00:52 |
| perlDreamer | when the smoke tests work again, that should be 1 less problem | 00:52 |
| @preaction | woot! | 00:52 |
| perlDreamer | how's le galleria coming? | 00:52 |
| @preaction | quite well. almost got the perl code ready to start adding templates / debugging frontend | 00:53 |
| @preaction | still need to find a solution to the problem of not being able to use PseudoRequest to upload files | 00:53 |
| perlDreamer | would a tied filehandle help? | 00:55 |
| @preaction | i think it's more we have to mock Apache2::Upload or something, i don't know | 00:56 |
| @preaction | session uses Apache2::Upload to get the file, but that requires libapr | 00:56 |
| @preaction | once you try to load libapr, the tests will die | 00:57 |
| perlDreamer | request->upload returns a list of filehandles | 00:59 |
| perlDreamer | and the Storage just does a byte smart read on that filehandle to implement a copy | 00:59 |
| perlDreamer | See Storage.pm, line 204 or so | 00:59 |
| perlDreamer | but if session->request is a PseudoRequest, it should bypass that step | 01:00 |
| elnino | 'k - I checked the demo. It appears that you've made a distinction between new posts and new threads. I guess I was using the wrong term.. I was refering to new threads bypassing the approval process. And given that there is now a distinction, I suspect there was difference on how the two should be handled? | 01:00 |
| @preaction | elnino, i don't know. maybe that's just how the bug was fixed. | 01:01 |
| perlDreamer | preaction: I think you meant Storage, not Session | 01:02 |
| perlDreamer | can we move that load into preload.perl? | 01:02 |
| elnino | So I can only conclude that new *threads* were intended to bypass the approval process, but new posts are supposed to be approved. So if I upgrade, gosh, if there are new settings like this, how does it determine what I want? | 01:02 |
| perlDreamer | elnino: new settings defer to predetermined default during the upgrade process. | 01:03 |
| perlDreamer | if you want something different from that, you'd have to go back and alter them | 01:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4974 /WebGUI/t/SQL.t: always, always cleanup after myself in tests. sigh. | 01:03 |
| @preaction | elnino, which are usually exactly how things were before the upgrade | 01:03 |
| @preaction | or we try to get an idea for what most people want, like good UI does | 01:04 |
| @preaction | perlDreamer, i don't remember why Apache2::Upload is there exactly, but that'd be the first step in figuring out if it can be moved | 01:04 |
| @preaction | it doesn't look like there's any real reason why it couldn't be moved, it looks like Apache2::Upload is just a mixin to add the upload() method to Apache2::Request | 01:06 |
| elnino | ok. Thanks! | 01:07 |
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| perlDreamer | we could also just mock it, using fake_module like you were suggesting earlier. | 01:16 |
| @preaction | what would that entail though? it's just a mixin for Apache2::Request | 01:21 |
| perlDreamer | it should avoid loading libapr? | 01:27 |
| perlDreamer | well, with also fake'ing Apache2::Request it would avoid that | 01:30 |
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| perlDreamer | preaction: it's done | 02:09 |
| perlDreamer | check out #4975 | 02:09 |
| @preaction | sweet, i'll have to merge that for the gallery | 02:09 |
| perlDreamer | I'm about 99% convinced that WebGUI::Test should always return a PseudoRequest'ed Session var by default | 02:10 |
| perlDreamer | It's just too handy | 02:11 |
| @preaction | i'll update WebGUI::Test->getPage to add the uploads section to it (it's documented but it doesn't work). which means updating WebGUI::Test::Maker::HTML | 02:12 |
| @preaction | they're supposed to be filehandles, right? | 02:12 |
| perlDreamer | yes/no | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | they're really objects with methods for filename, size and fh | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | we need another class to handle that | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | I'll work on it | 02:13 |
| perlDreamer | sorry about jumping the gun | 02:13 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4975 /WebGUI/t/ (lib/WebGUI/PseudoRequest.pm Storage.t): enable testing of $session->request->uploads through WebGUI::PseudoRequest. Now we need a good utility method for sending a list of files to a sub and having it return a list of filehandles to those files | 02:18 |
| @preaction | so something like WebGUI::Test->addUploadedFile( filepath )? | 02:30 |
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| perlDreamer | well, I stuck it in PseudoRequest | 02:31 |
| perlDreamer | and it takes a list of files | 02:31 |
| perlDreamer | rather than a directory | 02:32 |
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| CIA-29 | WebGUI: colin * r4976 /WebGUI/t/ (lib/WebGUI/PseudoRequest.pm Storage.t): (log message trimmed) | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: Finish up the file upload handling by PseudoRequest. If you | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: call $pseudoRequest->uploadFiles with a list of filenames, it will populate | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: the upload method with upload objects, so that Storage->getFileFromFormPost | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: will have an object with all the right methods. | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: t/Storage.t tests this incidently. It occurs to me that we need tests | 03:03 |
| CIA-29 | WebGUI: for our PseudoRequest module, and it needs POD, and it should probably | 03:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | fire, flood foe! | 18:43 |
| +perlDreamer | raise the hue and the cry! | 18:43 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org is beseiged and beset upon by foul means! | 18:43 |
| +perlDreamer | in other words | 18:44 |
| +perlDreamer | it's broke | 18:44 |
| +perlDreamer | "OMG. They killed webgui.org" | 18:54 |
| +perlDreamer | Alas poor webgui.org, I knew him well | 18:56 |
| +perlDreamer | Come, let us destroy webgui.org, and rule the galaxy as father and son! | 18:57 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org needs food badly | 18:57 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org is about to die | 18:58 |
| +perlDreamer | webgui.org is dead, Jim. | 18:59 |
| +perlDreamer | Remember the webgui.org! | 19:01 |
| +perlDreamer | Give me webgui.org, or give me death! | 19:31 |
| @apeiron | Loads fine for me. So I guess you live. | 19:37 |
| +perlDreamer | I get a 500 error | 19:41 |
| * perlDreamer feels his heartbeat stutter a bit | 19:41 | |
| +perlDreamer | but pb.com works fine | 19:41 |
| +Radix_ | works here | 19:44 |
| * perlDreamer must be cursed | 19:54 | |
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| crythia1 | hello | 02:10 |
| crythia1 | goodbye | 02:11 |
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| SynQ | hi there | 13:02 |
| SynQ | since it's weekend... | 13:03 |
| SynQ | is there a way to get the latest version of WRE from svn somewhere? | 13:03 |
| SynQ | :) | 13:10 |
| SynQ | in that case, I'll just focus on the 0.8.0 version | 13:24 |
| @preaction | SynQ, svn.webgui.org/plainblack/wrebuild | 13:44 |
| SynQ | ah | 14:00 |
| SynQ | :) | 14:00 |
| SynQ | the nicest thing about compiling the wre is that it takes for ages | 15:01 |
| SynQ | :) | 15:01 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r4977 /tools/makerelease.pl: this should fix the commit problem with smoke tests | 16:48 |
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| SynQ | hi there | 23:03 |
| SynQ | is feedback on a specific svn version of the WRE valued | 23:04 |
| SynQ | ? | 23:04 |
| SynQ | syntax error at /data/wre/lib/WRE/Spectre.pm line 262, near "sum values" | 23:04 |
| @rizen | please submit a bug report and i'll look into it | 23:06 |
| @rizen | and yes | 23:06 |
| @rizen | it is valued | 23:06 |
| @rizen | i hope to put out the 0.8.1 version on monday | 23:06 |
| SynQ | great | 23:06 |
| SynQ | I will | 23:06 |
| SynQ | submit a bug report that is | 23:07 |
| SynQ | Done | 23:13 |
| @rizen | when i get out the next wre release depends greatly upon when i can resolve these pesky windows bugs that are remaining | 23:14 |
| SynQ | windows bugs | 23:16 |
| SynQ | ok, but I get my bug on debian | 23:17 |
| SynQ | not on windows | 23:17 |
| @rizen | i said nothing about your bug | 23:17 |
| SynQ | I know | 23:17 |
| SynQ | I don't care about windows | 23:17 |
| @rizen | but i've resolved to release all os versions at the same time | 23:18 |
| SynQ | ah | 23:18 |
| SynQ | understandable | 23:19 |
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| +perlDreamer | apeiron: ping | 02:49 |
| +perlDreamer | You can close this bug with one line of code: http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/wre/spectre_pm-line-262-syntax-error | 02:49 |
| @rizen | closed | 02:51 |
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| +perlDreamer | sweet | 02:58 |
| +perlDreamer | You have proper duck alignment? | 02:58 |
| @rizen | nope still working on straightening out the foul | 02:59 |
| +perlDreamer | heh | 02:59 |
| @rizen | it's going to take a while to get that done | 03:00 |
| @rizen | i could go for some smores right now | 03:00 |
| @rizen | could you bring some over? | 03:00 |
| +perlDreamer | mmmmm | 03:00 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll start building a fire | 03:01 |
| +perlDreamer | You going to be up loate? | 03:01 |
| +perlDreamer | It will take a while to make them. | 03:04 |
| @rizen | i'm actuallying thinking about hitting some video games in a ibt | 03:05 |
| @rizen | s/ibt/bit/ | 03:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I fixed the SQL.t errors for the tests, and now looking at the graphic tests that are failing. | 03:05 |
| @rizen | so i'll be up if you want to bring them over =) | 03:05 |
| +perlDreamer | I'll put them into my DVD drive and rip them digitally, then you can reconstitute them with your Mac. | 03:05 |
| @rizen | don't spend time on the graphics tests for right now | 03:06 |
| @rizen | we're working on getting image magick to work on freebsd | 03:06 |
| @rizen | and if it does | 03:06 |
| @rizen | then we'll be ditching graphics magic | 03:06 |
| @rizen | and the tests will start working automatically again | 03:06 |
| +perlDreamer | okay. I thought we like Graphics::Magick. Stable, faster, yada yada yada | 03:06 |
| @rizen | not faster | 03:06 |
| @rizen | supposedly more stable | 03:06 |
| @rizen | and it works on freebsd | 03:07 |
| @rizen | that's the big key | 03:07 |
| @rizen | but now we have a freebsd junkie on staff | 03:07 |
| @rizen | and he's going to help get image magick working on freebsd | 03:07 |
| +perlDreamer | apeiron or Haarg? | 03:07 |
| @rizen | image magick is more powerful | 03:07 |
| @rizen | apeiron | 03:07 |
| +perlDreamer | dude, I'm sorry. Smores isn't going to work. How 'bout one of these instead? | 03:10 |
| +perlDreamer | http://www.phobe.com/sfi/accordion.html | 03:10 |
| @rizen | that's awesome | 03:12 |
| @rizen | though not as awesome as smores | 03:12 |
| @rizen | pd, i've got a problem, i have no idea how to test the new pluggable url handlers that i'm making | 03:12 |
| @rizen | it requires apache objects | 03:12 |
| @rizen | i think i'll commit without tests, once it's working and then ask for your help on how to write the tests | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | either mech, or Apache::Test | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | can you mock the objects? | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | eh, nevermind | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | they're probably integral | 03:13 |
| @rizen | i don't know. maybe. i'll have to look into that. i've never done any of the fancy tests that you've written | 03:13 |
| +perlDreamer | We finally started mocking Apache::Upload on Friday. | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | Now you can do actual file uploads in tests. | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | I made it for preaction to test the gallery | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | Honestly, this thing might be releasable to the public. | 03:14 |
| +perlDreamer | It's fairly handy. | 03:14 |
| @rizen | you mean to cpan? | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah | 03:15 |
| @rizen | you should | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | I can't | 03:15 |
| @rizen | why? | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | It's not mine anymore | 03:15 |
| +perlDreamer | It's yours | 03:15 |
| @rizen | bah | 03:15 |
| @rizen | that's not how it works | 03:15 |
| @rizen | when you commit to svn you give us a license to do whatever we want with it | 03:15 |
| @rizen | but that doesn't mean we own it | 03:16 |
| @rizen | it's still yours too | 03:16 |
| +perlDreamer | as long as you don't mind, nor send your lawyers after me, nor trump my ace lead and scarf my smores | 03:16 |
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| +perlDreamer | Tim wrote to the President of the US last night | 03:21 |
| @rizen | what did he say? | 03:22 |
| +perlDreamer | He wants him to sign S294 when it comes to his desk | 03:23 |
| +perlDreamer | It's an Amtrak reform and spending bill | 03:24 |
| +perlDreamer | I told him it has to go through the House first, but he's not very patient | 03:24 |
| @rizen | that's so cool | 03:26 |
| @rizen | i haven't even ever written the president or a congressman | 03:26 |
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| @rizen | i figure they won't listen anyway | 03:26 |
| +perlDreamer | I think it will get through the House, but the Pres is not so cool on trains. | 03:27 |
| +perlDreamer | He needs wise counsel | 03:27 |
| +perlDreamer | from a 6 year old :) | 03:27 |
| +Radix-wrk | I think this video sums up our political battle atm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAOUKX-Myc0 | 03:28 |
| +Radix-wrk | Our election is in another 12 days | 03:29 |
| +perlDreamer | Are you going to vote? | 03:29 |
| +Radix-wrk | Thankfully the election campains here are measured in weeks compared to your months of campaigning in the US. | 03:30 |
| +Radix-wrk | Voting is compulsory | 03:30 |
| +Radix-wrk | you get fined about $200 if you don't vote. | 03:30 |
| +perlDreamer | wow | 03:30 |
| +perlDreamer | now that's an idea! | 03:30 |
| @rizen | i don't know if that's a good idea or not | 03:33 |
| +perlDreamer | I asked because too many people here gripe about the system, then don't vote. | 03:33 |
| @rizen | most of the people in the US are so dumb i wouldn't want them to vote | 03:33 |
| +Radix-wrk | you get the same here | 03:33 |
| @rizen | but i guess it doesn't really matter since there's rarely ever a good candidate to vote for anyway | 03:34 |
| +perlDreamer | you're lucky Jamie isn't in channel :) | 03:34 |
| +perlDreamer | Or was that Tavis? | 03:35 |
| @rizen | tavis is the only one on staff that thinks that GW is a good president | 03:35 |
| @rizen | jamie is the one that thinks i should run for president | 03:36 |
| @rizen | and in that sentence, "one" is the operative word | 03:36 |
| +Radix-wrk | lol | 03:36 |
| +Radix-wrk | Have you seen the movie Good Luck Chuck? | 03:36 |
| +perlDreamer | but he knows you best | 03:37 |
| @rizen | nope, haven't seen it | 03:37 |
| +Radix-wrk | There's a scene with a girl with a tattoo with the letters "G. W." just above her panties was funny - the guys expression of horror. | 03:38 |
| +perlDreamer | gtg, dinner time in PDX. Se y'all tomorrow | 03:38 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4978 /WebGUI/t/Session/Url.t: | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Coverage tests for getBackToSiteURL brings Session/Url coverage | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: up to 100%. | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4979 /WebGUI/t/Session/Url.t: leave notes as to future tests that need to be written for getBackToSiteURL | 07:33 |
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| MrHairgreas1 | /whoami | 12:42 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:30 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4980 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 20:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4969 via svnmerge from | 20:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 20:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 20:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4969 | graham | 2007-11-08 16:50:59 -0600 (Thu, 08 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 20:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix CS posts not allowing new attachments after deleting old ones | 20:48 |
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| perlDreamer | hey, folks | 23:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | howdy | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | MrHairgrease: Are you feeling well? it's only 9:00pm on a weeknight. | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | Shouldn't you be out partying? | 23:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh i started partying at 10 am today | 23:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | so it's getting kinda old by now | 23:01 |
| perlDreamer | well, in that case, it's good to take a little time off | 23:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 23:01 |
| +MrHairgrease | btw | 23:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | it 10 pm over here | 23:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | you're being uk minded =) | 23:02 |
| perlDreamer | hey, what's 15 degrees between friends? | 23:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | dunno | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | 1 time zone? :) | 23:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | i always use radians | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | hey, what's pi/12 radians between friends? | 23:04 |
| @rizen | i only use kelvins, regardless of whether it's heat or distance around the globe that i'm measuring | 23:04 |
| @rizen | it could be why i'm always late | 23:04 |
| * MrHairgrease always uses pi in stones per square hogshead | 23:05 | |
| perlDreamer | or cold... | 23:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | or whatever | 23:05 |
| +MrHairgrease | rizen is never cold | 23:05 |
| @rizen | that is true | 23:06 |
| +MrHairgrease | he has one of the most warming personalities that i know of | 23:06 |
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| @rizen | it's 283 kelvin here today | 23:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | ah you mean 9.85 degrees celcius | 23:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | here it was a few kelvins colder i think | 23:10 |
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| perlDreamer | it's not so cold here, but we're having high winds | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | parts of east portland are without power | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | which can really interfere with your WebGUI development | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | that's why I live in the West part of portland | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | Intel gets kind of mad when the power goes out | 23:14 |
| perlDreamer | fabs and design centers and all that | 23:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | what a bunch of crybabies | 23:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | a fab only cost some billions | 23:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | you'd figure they could do without it for a day or so without complaining =) | 23:15 |
| perlDreamer | I know. Those fab/process guys are such whiners | 23:16 |
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| perlDreamer | One day they asking for self-aligned mask sets | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | next day they want electricity | 23:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah those guys suck | 23:17 |
| * MrHairgrease wonders where he was last thursday... | 23:17 | |
| +MrHairgrease | oh crap =) | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | in the fab? :) | 23:17 |
| perlDreamer | Tomorrow they'll want water. | 23:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 23:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | only demineralised water though | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | what? | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | You want pure water? | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | sheesh | 23:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | they say all the crap in normal water is bad for your process | 23:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | but they're just spoiled | 23:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | it gives me the squirts | 23:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's not for consumption | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | that would explain a few things | 23:20 |
| perlDreamer | if they'd bring me some beer, I'd drink it instead | 23:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | see it like this | 23:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | demi water is to water what light beer is compared to beer | 23:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's just not for consumption | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | makes sense | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | so I should drink mineralwasser instead | 23:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | why not | 23:22 |
| perlDreamer | I tried some when I was in germany | 23:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | i myself consume liters of water with bubbles | 23:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | i think it's called soda water in the us | 23:23 |
| perlDreamer | but there's no minerals in soda water | 23:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh well | 23:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | i just care for the carbon dioxide | 23:23 |
| @khenn | unsweetened iced tea using tap water is the only way to go | 23:24 |
| @khenn | all the lead and crap they spew into the public drinking water pleasantly masked with the goodness of tea | 23:25 |
| perlDreamer | I don't know who you are, but you better stop using Frank's account | 23:25 |
| perlDreamer | He'll get mad | 23:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | hmmm lead | 23:25 |
| @khenn | I have a nice big glass of it right here | 23:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | franks hasn't been the same since his last encounter with the Dutch =) | 23:26 |
| @khenn | I killed off a large portion of brain cells that night | 23:26 |
| @khenn | thanks to Koen | 23:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | i know for a fact that that particular evening wasn't to good on koen's bc's too =) | 23:27 |
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| perlDreamer | ssshhhh. He's back | 00:54 |
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| steveo | Why does WebGUI::Asset::Post need to redefine a brand new storageId whenever it adds a revision? | 01:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | b/c if the storage would stay the same it is not possible to version different files with the same filename | 01:34 |
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| perlDreamer | suppose someone edits a post with an attachment. He leaves the attachment alone but edits the content. | 01:37 |
| perlDreamer | Now there would be two versions of the post, both pointing to the same storageId. | 01:38 |
| perlDreamer | 3 months later, the DeleteOldVersions workflow comes along and says | 01:38 |
| perlDreamer | hey, the older version of this post should be deleted | 01:38 |
| @rizen | that shouldn't be true | 01:38 |
| cap10morgan | Is there a PayPal payment plugin in 7.4? | 01:38 |
| perlDreamer | but you can't delete it without deleting the storageId | 01:38 |
| @rizen | on every edit it creates a copy of the storage id | 01:38 |
| @rizen | storage location | 01:39 |
| @rizen | cap: no, but it's coming sometime in 7.5 | 01:39 |
| perlDreamer | rizen: this is postulating not making a copy each time. That's what steveo asked about | 01:39 |
| cap10morgan | rizen: cool, thanks | 01:39 |
| perlDreamer | anyway, the end result is that your db ends up full of old cruft that you can't safely delete | 01:40 |
| perlDreamer | it's a small price to pay to for an extra storage Id | 01:40 |
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| perlDreamer | each version is completely self contained | 01:40 |
| xootom | hi all, i mistakenly set 'archive after' on some photo galleries to 0, thinking that would disable archiving. but it's instantly archived lots of photos.. i can't see them in asset manager but can find them through search. is there a way of unarchiving them in bulk? | 01:41 |
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| perlDreamer | xootom: I can't think of any through the user interface or admin interface to do that | 01:43 |
| perlDreamer | rizen: but speaking of archive, so is it a bug if you check the state of an asset for archived, since it will never be true? | 01:43 |
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| xootom | thanks pd | 01:45 |
| @rizen | why do you think archive will never be true? | 01:45 |
| perlDreamer | in your email that wasn't one of the valid values for state, only for status. | 01:46 |
| xootom | it's status, not state | 01:47 |
| xootom | i'm just going to sql everything from archive to approved on my galleries | 01:47 |
| @rizen | oh right | 01:47 |
| @rizen | yeah, state never uses archived | 01:47 |
| @rizen | only status | 01:47 |
| perlDreamer | so should the logic be reduced to just state=published (and ignore state) or does it need to be state=published OR status=archived? | 01:48 |
| perlDreamer | i.e. AssetLineage line 195 | 01:49 |
| @rizen | actually | 01:54 |
| @rizen | it needs to be changed to state='published' and (status='approved' or status='archived') | 01:54 |
| perlDreamer | asset.state='published' and (assetData.status in ('approved','archived')) | 01:57 |
| * perlDreamer begins to wish for views | 01:57 | |
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| perlDreamer | rizen: we'll need more test code before I feel comfortable making those changes | 02:06 |
| perlDreamer | it will take me a while | 02:06 |
| @rizen | time for me to be done for the day methinks | 02:11 |
| @rizen | brain hurts | 02:11 |
| perlDreamer | and you didn't even go drinking with Koen and Frank | 02:11 |
| @rizen | no just being pulled in 14000 directions per day will make your brain hurt | 02:12 |
| perlDreamer | indeed | 02:12 |
| @rizen | you never get to concentrate on any one thing for more than 5 minutes at a time | 02:12 |
| @rizen | Hi. My name is JT and I'm an addict. | 02:16 |
| perlDreamer | Hi, JT | 02:16 |
| @rizen | I killed 2 people last night and I really got off on it. | 02:16 |
| @rizen | I need your help so I don't do it again | 02:17 |
| perlDreamer | Were they bad people? | 02:17 |
| +Radix-wrk | only 2? | 02:17 |
| @rizen | If you've never seen Mr. Brooks, you should. Amazing. | 02:17 |
| perlDreamer | Didn't make you an advocate of 12-step programs? | 02:17 |
| @rizen | Actually I haven't been of fan of them for a long time. | 02:18 |
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| @rizen | Staistically only about 5% of people that use 12 step programs stick with it. | 02:18 |
| @rizen | Which is co-incidentally, the same number of people that stick with it even if they aren't in a 12 step program | 02:18 |
| perlDreamer | So what do they recommend for kicking an addiction? | 02:19 |
| @rizen | because common wisdom is that it should work | 02:19 |
| @rizen | and no 12 step programs publish their statistics. you can only get it through inside whistleblowers. | 02:20 |
| @rizen | the 5% is from a leaked report in 1989 | 02:20 |
| @rizen | which is the last time that the statistics have gotten out | 02:20 |
| @rizen | most often the 12 step programs are used for recruitment | 02:20 |
| @rizen | in most cases, it's for religious organizations, but sometimes it's also for political orgs | 02:21 |
| perlDreamer | Hi, I'm Ray and I'm addicted to cigarettes. Hi, Ray. Quit smoking and hand out these campaign buttons. | 02:22 |
| @rizen | maybe political is the wrong word | 02:22 |
| @rizen | "activist" would be a better word | 02:22 |
| @rizen | although activist has a liberal tint to it | 02:22 |
| @rizen | and these orgs aren't always liberal | 02:22 |
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| @rizen | rule 1: wrap your hand and the murder weapon in a plastic bag | 02:44 |
| @rizen | rule 2: never kill somone you know, it's the fastest way to get caught | 02:44 |
| @rizen | rule 3: vacuum the house afterward and take the bag with you | 02:45 |
| @rizen | rule 4: burn your clothes and all other evidence afterward | 02:45 |
| @rizen | rule 5: take the slugs with you | 02:45 |
| perlDreamer | rule 6, don't kill anyone in your house if your neighbor is a professional photographer with a busted leg | 02:46 |
| @rizen | my rules are from mr brooks. where's yours from? | 02:47 |
| perlDreamer | rear window | 02:47 |
| perlDreamer | Jimmy Stewart and Grace Kelly. Oh, and Raymond Burr | 02:47 |
| perlDreamer | time to go home and switch to Dad mode | 02:48 |
| perlDreamer | Catch y'all tomorrow | 02:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r4982 /wrebuild/wre/sbin/wremonitor.pl: Remove unneeded subs that don't do anything at the moment. | 04:33 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | greetings | 15:42 |
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| @preaction | http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html <- "how to ask smart questions" without ESR's attitude | 21:18 |
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| xdanger | rizen: I just posted a rfe with diff in it. If I have a small enhancement that I have done and would like to be included for webgui is this the right way? | 01:29 |
| @rizen | yup | 01:30 |
| xdanger | I think I still have commit rights to svn, but I don't want to put anything there without someones approval =) | 01:31 |
| @rizen | good cuz that would be a fast way to lose your commit rights | 01:32 |
| @rizen | i'll review the patch this week | 01:33 |
| @rizen | and post my response | 01:33 |
| xdanger | It's really small thing... label for RadioList and CheckList, so you can select the item by clicking the text | 01:35 |
| @rizen | so let me get this straight | 01:43 |
| @rizen | if you click on the label after this patch is applied | 01:43 |
| @rizen | then it will check the box or radio button | 01:43 |
| @rizen | as if you clicked on the radio button or check box | 01:44 |
| xdanger | yes | 01:44 |
| @rizen | approved | 01:44 |
| xdanger | so, do I add them, or somebody else will use the diff's? | 01:46 |
| @rizen | you should do it | 01:47 |
| @rizen | but if you don't, someone will eventually do it | 01:47 |
| @rizen | and if you do it, then reply to your rfe to say that you have done so | 01:47 |
| xdanger | ok, I don't have svn of webgui checkouted at the moment... | 01:48 |
| xdanger | maybe later if I remember, have something else to do right now | 01:48 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:46 |
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| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 17:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | "I think webgui lite is a waste of time for you developers" -> "I think webgui lite is not a priority for you developers" | 17:34 |
| @preaction | he doesn't know that all the provisions that JT described are already in there | 17:59 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's not the point | 18:00 |
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| @rizen | is fathertorque the same as maxscience? | 20:40 |
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| perlDreamer | okay, who wants to volunteer to answer my silly newbie questions today? | 20:47 |
| @rizen | if it's quick i'll do it | 20:47 |
| @rizen | have to leave in 5 | 20:47 |
| perlDreamer | it's javascript related | 20:47 |
| @rizen | what you don't think i know js? | 20:47 |
| perlDreamer | how does the dragger code update the Layout asset content positions? | 20:47 |
| perlDreamer | no, just to warn you that it won't be straight forward for me :) | 20:47 |
| @rizen | you mean how does it communicate back to the server? | 20:48 |
| perlDreamer | yes | 20:48 |
| @rizen | it's old school | 20:48 |
| @rizen | when we wrote that we couldn't rely upon ajax | 20:48 |
| @rizen | so it's posting back through a hidden iframe | 20:48 |
| perlDreamer | okay | 20:49 |
| @rizen | look at the top of the view method | 20:49 |
| @rizen | it spits out the iframe there | 20:49 |
| perlDreamer | Cool. I was taking a crack the the SQL Report Asset Rank bug, and not getting anywhere tracing the JS directly | 20:49 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.plainblack.com/bugs/tracker/sqlreport-asset-rank2 | 20:50 |
| @rizen | asset rank is not related to page position | 20:50 |
| @rizen | it's only used as a last resort if the asset has not been manually positioned on the page, then it defaults to asset rank | 20:51 |
| @rizen | in the first position | 20:51 |
| @rizen | but since page layouts can have multiple positions | 20:51 |
| @rizen | rank cannot be used | 20:51 |
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| @rizen | so the bug is not a bug | 20:51 |
| @rizen | he just doesn't understand how it works | 20:51 |
| perlDreamer | So it's accidently working for most assets, and not working at all the the SQL Report | 20:52 |
| @rizen | right | 20:53 |
| @rizen | it's "defaulting" | 20:53 |
| @rizen | but he's already positioned the sql report at some point | 20:53 |
| @rizen | and so positioning takes over for rank | 20:53 |
| perlDreamer | Okay. I was confused by that too, so I'm going to play with it a bit more. Then I'll post back and close the bug. | 20:55 |
| perlDreamer | I didn't know that the dragger had copy and paste keys | 20:55 |
| perlDreamer | I like that better than the dragging | 20:55 |
| @rizen | that's an undocumented feature | 20:58 |
| @rizen | i'm not sure whether we'll be able to keep it when we rebuild the dragger using yui so i haven't told anybody about it yet | 20:58 |
| @rizen | even though it's been in there since v5 | 20:58 |
| perlDreamer | I'll hold off on the wiki page then :) | 20:58 |
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| perlDreamer | too cool! | 22:41 |
| perlDreamer | WRE on EC2 | 22:41 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.plainblack.com/install/upgrade_help/fyi---wre0_8-on-amazon-ec2#idVqZltAyfPXXgtLvV-1DAtw | 22:42 |
| @khenn | cool, but isn't EC2 just a computing environment? | 22:48 |
| @khenn | ie: you don't get a default OS | 22:48 |
| @khenn | I don't know much about it really | 22:48 |
| perlDreamer | No, I think that's it exactly | 22:48 |
| perlDreamer | but if you want more processors, you just buy them. | 22:49 |
| perlDreamer | and if you want less, you pay less | 22:49 |
| @khenn | cool nontheless | 22:49 |
| perlDreamer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud | 22:50 |
| perlDreamer | I think I could use this for automated wG testing | 22:52 |
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| perlDreamer | hm | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | $0.10/instance hour | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | 1 instance is 132/month | 23:00 |
| perlDreamer | that's a bit steep, it seems | 23:00 |
| @khenn | guess it depends on your needs | 23:02 |
| perlDreamer | Well, I miscalculated. 24*30 = 720, so it's 72/month | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | maybe people are willing to pay a premium for the elasticity and real time nature of it | 23:03 |
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| wgGuest16 | i need some help setting up wre 8 and webgui on windows | 23:08 |
| wgGuest16 | i have it up and running but having issues with spectre.conf | 23:08 |
| perlDreamer | what kind of issues? (note, I'm not a WRE user) | 23:08 |
| wgGuest16 | this is some of the webgui.log error ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1012] | 23:08 |
| perlDreamer | it that all? nothing preceding or following that? | 23:09 |
| wgGuest16 | did have this before it http://webgui.pastebin.com/d68a388b3 | 23:10 |
| wgGuest16 | i created a article then commited it | 23:10 |
| wgGuest16 | then it shoot out these errors | 23:10 |
| perlDreamer | did the commit work? | 23:10 |
| wgGuest16 | yes | 23:11 |
| wgGuest16 | i just got it set up few minutes ago | 23:11 |
| wgGuest16 | and testing it | 23:11 |
| perlDreamer | Offhand I'd say you're seeing log "noise" then, rather than real problems. | 23:11 |
| wgGuest16 | my console is at http://topsub:60834/ but spectre conf has port 32133 | 23:12 |
| wgGuest16 | should they be the same | 23:12 |
| wgGuest16 | ? | 23:12 |
| wgGuest16 | well also i tried ti import a package and it created the folder and nothing under it | 23:12 |
| perlDreamer | which version of WebGUI? | 23:12 |
| perlDreamer | that would be a completely separate issue from spectre, in any case. | 23:13 |
| perlDreamer | it sounds like a permissions problem in your uploads directory | 23:13 |
| @preaction | looks like you're trying to re-import a package that didn't get imported correctly the first time | 23:13 |
| wgGuest16 | looking.. i know its in settings somewere | 23:13 |
| wgGuest16 | believe its 12 but still looking | 23:14 |
| perlDreamer | In the Admin Console, choose Statistics | 23:14 |
| perlDreamer | it will tell you | 23:14 |
| wgGuest16 | ah ya. 7.4.13-stable | 23:15 |
| wgGuest16 | i went to demo.webgui and imported same package there.. just the javascript folder | 23:16 |
| wgGuest16 | just to be sure | 23:16 |
| perlDreamer | same problem? Or did it work there? | 23:16 |
| wgGuest16 | it worked | 23:16 |
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| @preaction | there's an error before the one you showed probably | 23:16 |
| @preaction | dur... | 23:16 |
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| perlDreamer | then I'd wipe your current site, double check the permissions in the uploads directory, and try again. | 23:17 |
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| wgGuest41 | oops sry back | 23:17 |
| wgGuest41 | in Spectre it tells me it has There are 4 scheduled tasks | 23:17 |
| wgGuest41 | which might be the things i commited to mess around | 23:18 |
| wgGuest41 | do you know if in the spectre.conf the port number needs to be the same as whats beisde my console window? | 23:18 |
| perlDreamer | it needs to be the same number as in the webgui.conf file | 23:18 |
| @preaction | no, that would be bad | 23:18 |
| wgGuest41 | hehe k preaction | 23:19 |
| wgGuest41 | webgui.conf in data/webgui/etc? | 23:19 |
| perlDreamer | yes | 23:19 |
| @preaction | rather <sitename>.conf | 23:19 |
| wgGuest41 | ahyes.. topsub.conf | 23:19 |
| @preaction | henceforth referred to as webgui.conf | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | ah yes they are the same.. | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | hmm | 23:20 |
| @preaction | if spectre says it has workflows waiting, then it's configured correctly | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | ERROR - spectre.conf - POE::Kernel::_dispatch_event[1012] - WORKFLOW: Response for topsub - uZAjHmjQZLG8bGujWm6Ncg had a communications error. | 23:20 |
| wgGuest41 | error still showing up | 23:21 |
| @preaction | is topsub in your /etc/hosts? rather, can the system resolve it? | 23:21 |
| wgGuest41 | let me check | 23:22 |
| @preaction | might want to shut down spectre and then run it in debug mode with: cd /data/WebGUI/sbin; perl spectre.pl --run --debug; | 23:22 |
| @preaction | use the WRE shell.bat file, where ever that it | 23:22 |
| wgGuest41 | k i will try that | 23:22 |
| wgGuest41 | i will stop spectre from console then try that | 23:23 |
| @preaction | i still say it was a package problem | 23:23 |
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| cap10morgan | I have a WRE 0.8.0 tarball for Ubuntu gutsy, where should I upload that? | 23:23 |
| wgGuest41 | well i also created an article and commited that and it didn't show up also | 23:24 |
| wgGuest41 | still get the communication error | 23:24 |
| wgGuest41 | going to try the debug mode see what happens | 23:25 |
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| wgGuest41 | still getting this error.. http://webgui.pastebin.com/m4d8df63a | 23:28 |
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| perlDreamer | yay, I'm a hero | 01:55 |
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| perlDreamer | I just uploaded the world's first small calendar (month) template | 01:57 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4985 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4983 via svnmerge from | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 09:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4983 | graham | 2007-11-13 12:25:26 -0600 (Tue, 13 Nov 2007) | 2 lines | 09:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix broken SSL redirection | 09:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4986 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 09:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix shortcuts not copying overrides with asset or removing them on purge | 09:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4987 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/AssetClipboard.pm): fix: Copy operations create version tags even with auto-commit turned on | 10:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4989 /WebGUI/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Setup.pm): fix: Site starter style displays incorrectly in IE | 11:33 |
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| SDuensin | Are we having fun yet? | 16:34 |
| nutrino | yes. lots. | 16:47 |
| nutrino | importing files :/ | 16:47 |
| nutrino | using siteImport script. | 16:47 |
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| wgGuest68 | I am setting up local dev on windows using wre 8 and 7.4.13 and like to check to make sure my timezone is set and having trouble finding were its at. Anyone able to guide me some? | 17:12 |
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| cap10morgan | is there a way to enable anonymous checkout in the commerce system? | 22:34 |
| @preaction_ | no | 23:01 |
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| nutrino | is there a known working import script for 7.4.x? | 23:25 |
| nutrino | siteimport.pl is busted. | 23:25 |
| nutrino | assets are created and files are imported, but the content is never imported. | 23:26 |
| @preaction_ | what's "siteimport.pl"? | 23:39 |
| @preaction_ | most likely you're going to have to roll-your-own import script, there's a billion ways to do it | 23:39 |
| nutrino | i thought it was a script that came packaged with webgui. | 23:39 |
| nutrino | i must of picked it up somewhere then... | 23:39 |
| @preaction_ | there's sbin/fileImport.pl, but that's about it | 23:40 |
| BartJol | and user import | 23:42 |
| BartJol | .pl | 23:42 |
| @preaction_ | i wonder how hard it would be to write an htmlImport.pl script that would parse a directory of html files | 23:45 |
| @preaction_ | might be kinda ugly, considering the URL problem | 23:46 |
| BartJol | isn't it easier to use packages? | 23:47 |
| BartJol | can be difficult between version though maybe | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | or a ZipArchive? | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | packages are for moving things from one WebGUI to another | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | not importing things into webgui from html or another system | 23:47 |
| @preaction_ | a ZipArchive could do the HTML importing | 23:48 |
| BartJol | mmm | 23:48 |
| BartJol | well, i wouldn't know | 23:48 |
| BartJol | but it would be great to be able to migrate html into webgui sites | 23:49 |
| BartJol | should be possible | 23:49 |
| @preaction_ | that's what ziparchives do | 23:49 |
| BartJol | lol | 23:49 |
| @preaction_ | or am i channelling some sort of Future WebGUI that doesn't exist yet | 23:50 |
| BartJol | but would css be a pain? | 23:50 |
| BartJol | if it is in the html | 23:50 |
| BartJol | some people do strange things | 23:50 |
| @preaction_ | not sure how the CSS is handled, inline CSS would be fine. not sure about <link rel="stylesheet"> | 23:50 |
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| BartJol | bye | 00:01 |
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| +Radix_ | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007166671115.gif | 01:28 |
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| +perlDreamer | one of you PB types may want to have a look at the demo server. there may be some config file problems with spectre. | 05:07 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4995 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (lib/WebGUI/Operation/Spectre.pm t/Utility.t): | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: A whole bunch of coverage tests for Utility.pm, including the | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: heretofore untested isInSubnet. | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Better handling of bad config data in Operation/Spectre.pm | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4996 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Operation/Spectre.pm t/Utility.t): forward port of branch work with Utility.pm and isInSubnet | 06:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4997 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Utility.pm t/Utility.t): add a test for makeArrayTabSafe and add comments to WebGUI::Utility | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r4998 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (lib/WebGUI/Utility.pm t/Utility.t): backport new Utility tests and POD docs | 07:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r4999 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix: Calendar feed list doesn't display in IE | 09:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5000 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 4999 via svnmerge from | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r4999 | graham | 2007-11-16 01:11:04 -0600 (Fri, 16 Nov 2007) | 1 line | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix: Calendar feed list doesn't display in IE | 09:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 09:33 |
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| SDuensin | Morning. | 15:33 |
| +MrHairgrease | hi | 15:33 |
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| nutrino | OK. anyone else getting cannot connect to DB errors since upgrading to 7.4.11? | 17:19 |
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| perlDreamer | O'Reilly is launching a new conference, for web performance and operations | 23:47 |
| perlDreamer | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/11/oreilly_launche_1.html | 23:47 |
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| chris_punches | Anyway, it won't happen again. Please lift the ban. I'm asking you in here because you aren't responding to my pm's, and are using that as an excuse to rationalize the ban. | 02:46 |
| chris_punches | preaction, plz unban me in #css, I didn't do anything wrong. I'm just looking for documentation on how to fix my problem. I don't know if you've had a bad day or what, but that's a little uncalled for. I pmed you the url because I haven't protected my site against mysql injection attacks. sorry for pmming it to you, but I don't think that's worthy of a ban. I understand #CSS is a busy channel, but I really need help on ho | 02:46 |
| chris_punches | w to figure out my problem. Please be more understanding. | 02:46 |
| chris_punches | hello? | 02:52 |
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| cap10morgan | Has anyone seen a "child pid #### exit signal Bus error (10)" when trying to start the modproxy server in 0.8.0 in OS X 10.5 intel? | 02:39 |
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| Acolytee | anyone home? | 00:05 |
| Acolytee | guys, when I start visual studio, where does .wgx file is located at? | 00:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | you must be posting your question in the wrong channel. | 00:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | This is the webgui channel | 00:13 |
| Acolytee | yes.. | 00:17 |
| Acolytee | that's what I'm using. | 00:17 |
| Acolytee | public partial class Form1 : Gizmox.WebGUI.Forms.Form | 00:17 |
| Acolytee | using visual studio to create the form. then run it. but when I run, it doesn't have images in sub-folder. | 00:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | i don't know what you are talking about | 00:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | what is your webgui related question? | 00:19 |
| Acolytee | when I start the page (i.e. its opened in Internet Explorer), where is the physical folder is located in which Form1.wgx is? | 00:19 |
| Acolytee | i.e. c:\docs & settings\etc | 00:20 |
| nuba | maybe not talking about the same WebGUI.. | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | that could be indeed | 00:20 |
| Acolytee | visual webgui? | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | this is the channel about the webgui web application framework | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | webgui.org | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | no | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | not visual webgui | 00:20 |
| Acolytee | damn | 00:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 00:20 |
| nuba | ditch visual stdio, come to this side of the force ;) | 00:21 |
| Acolytee | I did before... :D | 00:21 |
| Acolytee | dark side of the force is too strong in me :D | 00:21 |
| nuba | happens | 00:21 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5001 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm: POD documentation for the argument to getChildcount | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5002 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm: backport missing POD documentation | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5003 /WebGUI/t/Whitespace.t: no sense looking in the Help and i18n for POD | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5004 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/t/Whitespace.t: backport the test enhancement for skipping Help and i18n | 07:03 |
| +perlDreamer | Asset.pm doesn't really have an object API | 07:21 |
| +perlDreamer | grrrr | 07:21 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:17 |
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| bartjol | hi | 16:40 |
| knowmad | Morning everyone | 16:42 |
| AMH_bob | Howdy | 16:43 |
| bartjol | good afternoon | 16:45 |
| bartjol | well besides a workflow not running properly, fine | 16:45 |
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| @khenn | hello there everybody | 20:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | hi khenn | 20:59 |
| @khenn | MHG!!! | 20:59 |
| @khenn | How are things in Holland these days? | 21:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | cold | 21:00 |
| @khenn | cold > hot IMO | 21:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | but right now I'm depositing tiny lines at the university | 21:00 |
| @khenn | tiny lines of what? | 21:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | chromium | 21:00 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's for my graduation project | 21:00 |
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| @preaction | rizen, i hate to bother you, but can i ask a couple questions? i've got some issues with spectre | 21:54 |
| @preaction | every pending version in the Manage Pending Versions screen should have a workflow waiting or running in Spectre, right? | 21:55 |
| @rizen | yes | 21:55 |
| @rizen | that is unless it was one of the crazy workflows that were deleted because the workflow instance didn't have a workflow id associated with it | 21:56 |
| @preaction | i've got like 30 pending versions and only 12 waiting workflows, spectre has been restarted multiple times, but i'm guessing that the versions don't have workflow instances anymore | 21:56 |
| @preaction | i'm trying to track it down, if you have any places for me to look, i'm open for suggestions | 21:57 |
| @rizen | restarting spectre won't help you if the workflow instances don't exist in the WorkflowInstance table | 21:58 |
| @rizen | so that's the first place to look | 21:58 |
| @preaction | uhm... ?op=spectreGetSiteData is returning the home page... | 21:58 |
| @rizen | then you can create the instances in the WorkflowInstance table that refer to the version tags that need to be committed | 21:58 |
| @preaction | but how does spectre have waiting workflows then? | 21:58 |
| @rizen | 2 separate problems | 21:59 |
| @rizen | if spectreGetSiteData is returning the home page then there will be an error in your log file | 21:59 |
| @preaction | yeah, it's the one about can't call get on an undefined value | 21:59 |
| @rizen | and it's likely that if you look in the WorkflowInstance table you'll see instances that are corrupt | 21:59 |
| @preaction | which iirc was because the Instance is missing | 21:59 |
| @preaction | so i make a workflow instance myself and point it at the correct version tag? | 22:00 |
| @rizen | yes | 22:00 |
| @rizen | or fix the ones that are broken | 22:00 |
| @preaction | k, sounds good, thanks | 22:00 |
| @rizen | which you'll need to do anyway in order for spectre to get the correct data | 22:00 |
| @preaction | right | 22:00 |
| @preaction | could you think of anything i could output for debug messages that we could use to track down why these are occuring? | 22:01 |
| @preaction | nm, i don't think this happens anywhere else anyway | 22:02 |
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| perlDreamer | Haarg: ping | 23:21 |
| @Haarg | hi | 23:27 |
| perlDreamer | I found a bug in the upgrade script | 23:27 |
| perlDreamer | check out commit 5005 | 23:27 |
| @Haarg | hmm, wonder if we've been caught by that before | 23:29 |
| perlDreamer | I checked all the 7.4 templates in the upgrades, they look okay. | 23:29 |
| perlDreamer | and maybe it should ignore preceeding whitespace as well | 23:29 |
| perlDreamer | but I thought I'd give you a heads up | 23:29 |
| perlDreamer | since you're Dr. Upgrade and Release now :) | 23:29 |
| @Haarg | yeah, thanks | 23:30 |
| +MrHairgrease | perldreamer | 23:30 |
| perlDreamer | MrHairgrease: ? | 23:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | that javascript book you were looking for | 23:31 |
| perlDreamer | I eventually chose a copy of O'Reilly's Learning Javascript. | 23:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | you want to take a look at pro javascript techniques | 23:31 |
| perlDreamer | I do? Cool! | 23:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | by jon resig | 23:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | only chap 2 and 3 are worth the price | 23:31 |
| +MrHairgrease | check out the reviews on amazon | 23:31 |
| perlDreamer | I'll get a copy of it for sure, but probably after I get some basics down | 23:34 |
| perlDreamer | ""Pro JavaScript Techniques" is definitely for experienced and advanced scripters." | 23:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 23:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah i guess | 23:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | but you'll prolly mange to understand it all | 23:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | manage* | 23:34 |
| perlDreamer | I _can_ hack a little ;) | 23:34 |
| perlDreamer | Haarg: On a stock wG 7.5, this query: | 23:37 |
| perlDreamer | select namespace from template where namespace like ' %'; | 23:37 |
| perlDreamer | didn't return anything | 23:37 |
| perlDreamer | It's probably safe for doing upgrades, but creates may be different | 23:37 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5005 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): | 00:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fix the Event template, it was missing an img tag for the attachment icon. | 00:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fix a bug in the template importer in the upgrade script. It does not remove | 00:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: whitespace after the colon for defining properties. For most things like url | 00:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: it's not a problem, since there's other code that fixes it downstream, but | 00:03 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: with "namespace" it's a problem. | 00:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fixed in the 7.4.15 upgrade script and the upgrade skeleton. | 00:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5006 /WebGUI/docs/upgrades/_upgrade.skeleton: forward porting bug fix in upgrade skeleton | 00:03 |
| arjancwidlak | Hi all. If I put an SQL Report in the template of another asset, how could I determine the assetId of the asset in who's template the SQL Report is proxied? | 00:05 |
| arjancwidlak | I mean: if I put an SQL Report into the template by use of an Assetproxy. | 00:06 |
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| perlDreamer | arjancwidlak: Have you tried the Page macro? | 00:22 |
| perlDreamer | ^Page(assetId); | 00:22 |
| arjancwidlak | reading it's code you mean? | 00:22 |
| perlDreamer | No, I'm wondering if it will "do the right thing" and give you the assetId of the "containing" Asset. | 00:23 |
| perlDreamer | The AssetProxy does not reset the session asset, so it should still be pointing to your "containing" asset. | 00:24 |
| perlDreamer | That's how the Navigation wobject does its magic | 00:24 |
| arjancwidlak | Well, what I'm trying to do is: putting an SQL Report in the template of a Collaboration System and I would like to use the assetId of this Collaboratoin System in the query. | 00:25 |
| khenn_ | oh | 00:25 |
| perlDreamer | Give the Page macro a shot | 00:26 |
| perlDreamer | I think it will work | 00:26 |
| khenn_ | arjan | 00:26 |
| khenn_ | use <tmpl_var assetId> | 00:26 |
| khenn_ | that will give you the assetId of the collaboration system you are using | 00:26 |
| khenn_ | this is in the collaboration template | 00:26 |
| khenn_ | thread template | 00:26 |
| khenn_ | or post template? | 00:26 |
| arjancwidlak | CS template | 00:27 |
| khenn_ | <tmpl_var assetId> | 00:27 |
| khenn_ | will give the assetId of the collab system then | 00:27 |
| arjancwidlak | I know the <tmpl_var assetId> is available in the collaboration system template, but how do I pass it to the SQL Report when it's in an assetproxy? | 00:27 |
| arjancwidlak | I can't do ^AssetProxy(<url>, <tmpl_var assetId>); | 00:28 |
| khenn_ | right | 00:28 |
| khenn_ | well | 00:28 |
| khenn_ | I can never remember if macros or urls are processed first | 00:28 |
| perlDreamer | Page macro | 00:28 |
| khenn_ | er macros or template variables I mean | 00:28 |
| arjancwidlak | I just tried ^Page(assetId); It gives me the assetId of the page. | 00:28 |
| khenn_ | macros are processed before template vars? | 00:29 |
| arjancwidlak | You can use template variables in macro's no problem. | 00:29 |
| khenn_ | ok then: | 00:29 |
| arjancwidlak | That doesn't solve my problem does it? | 00:29 |
| khenn_ | ^AssetProxy(/my/sqlreport/url?formParam=<tmp_var assetId>); | 00:30 |
| arjancwidlak | I'll try that, but I doubt it ... | 00:30 |
| khenn_ | your sql report will need to handle the formParam | 00:30 |
| khenn_ | of course | 00:31 |
| khenn_ | but that should work | 00:31 |
| arjancwidlak | I'm trying it ... | 00:31 |
| arjancwidlak | No, it says invalid asset URL | 00:31 |
| khenn_ | invalid asset URL ? | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | for what? | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | oh | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | right | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | it | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | it's trying to look it up | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | in the database | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | oh | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | do this: | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | no | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | that won't work either =p | 00:32 |
| arjancwidlak | Because the url /my/sql/report?op=68sKwDg9cGH58-NzCu4lg does not exist | 00:32 |
| arjancwidlak | Yep | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | you need a custom macro | 00:32 |
| khenn_ | that strips off the ?op= | 00:33 |
| arjancwidlak | Yes, I thought of that, but I don't know where to begin | 00:33 |
| khenn_ | just modify AssetProxy | 00:33 |
| khenn_ | though I'm not sure what that is doing to be honest | 00:33 |
| arjancwidlak | That could definitly work, although the assetProxy macro is not trivial. | 00:33 |
| khenn_ | you could also accept the assetId along as another param | 00:34 |
| arjancwidlak | It seems the AssetProxy code has changed a lot, it's much easier to read than I thought it was. | 00:35 |
| perlDreamer | How about the SQL macro instead of the SQL Report? It is strong enough for what you want? | 00:36 |
| arjancwidlak | I guess it is. How would that solve the problem? | 00:36 |
| arjancwidlak | Oh, sorry, I see | 00:36 |
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| perlDreamer | Yes. | 00:36 |
| arjancwidlak | Yep, I believe this is going to work! Thanx! | 00:37 |
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| cap10morgan | by default, should any user other than Visitor be able to access the checkout page in the commerce system? | 00:44 |
| cap10morgan | and/or where is that controlled? i'm getting permission denied errors when i try to checkout w/ a regular account | 00:45 |
| perlDreamer | Try looking in Operation/Commerce.pm | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | You can use the URL to help narrow down the search to the right method | 00:46 |
| perlDreamer | Do you have payment gateway and shipping plugins defined for the site? | 00:47 |
| cap10morgan | yes | 00:47 |
| perlDreamer | anything in the logs? | 00:47 |
| cap10morgan | no | 00:47 |
| cap10morgan | oops, was running at ERROR level | 00:48 |
| cap10morgan | now down to INFO | 00:48 |
| cap10morgan | still nothing in the logs | 00:53 |
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| perlDreamer | if the user is not authorized for any payment gateways, they'll get No Access. | 00:57 |
| perlDreamer | That's in selectPaymentGateway | 00:58 |
| perlDreamer | cap: what's the exact error message that you're getting? | 00:59 |
| perlDreamer | to the browser? | 00:59 |
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| arjancwidlak | Hi Colin, it works with the SQL Macro. A quite complicated statement, but it works. However, something else is strange... | 01:24 |
| perlDreamer | what is it? | 01:25 |
| arjancwidlak | I cannot use the Date macro in the SQL Macro. Somehow the unix-time gets quoted or so. So therefore I used from_unixtime in my SQL statement. The date macro returns 1/11/2007 15:02 while the from_unixtime functoin gives me 19/11/2007 05:54 | 01:26 |
| perlDreamer | that's weird, it's like 8 days apart | 01:27 |
| perlDreamer | Can you show me the SQL Macro line? | 01:27 |
| arjancwidlak | Bot on this value: 1193925776 | 01:27 |
| arjancwidlak | Yes, I'll paste it in http://webgui.pastebin.com/ | 01:28 |
| arjancwidlak | it's on /m9343436 | 01:29 |
| perlDreamer | that's your new one. Do you still have the old one with the macro calls in it? | 01:30 |
| arjancwidlak | Colin, I think I'm doing something stupid... | 01:31 |
| perlDreamer | It's possible, I do stupid things all the time :) | 01:32 |
| arjancwidlak | One second | 01:32 |
| arjancwidlak | Yes, completly my bad | 01:34 |
| arjancwidlak | Wrong database. | 01:34 |
| arjancwidlak | Very sorry to have bothered you | 01:34 |
| perlDreamer | No problem. So the Date macro is okay? | 01:34 |
| arjancwidlak | Yes, the date macro gives exactly the same outcome as from_unixtime function in Mysql | 01:35 |
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| @apeiron | Haarg++ # helpful | 02:06 |
| perlDreamer | Also very patient | 02:06 |
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| +perlDreamer | Anyone awake? I could use some SQL help. | 06:36 |
| +perlDreamer | nm, I think I found it out | 06:51 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5007 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm t/Asset/AssetLineage.t): | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Fix for AssetLineage's getChildCount. It did not consider the | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: asset's status, only the state. Change the SQL query to always | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: look at status, and consider state based on the options passed | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: to the method. | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add two quick tests to test that. More to follow. | 07:03 |
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| leopardus | hello :? | 11:19 |
| +Radix_ | hello | 11:20 |
| leopardus | I just hopped into webgui, is it written in Perl? | 11:20 |
| +Radix_ | yup | 11:22 |
| leopardus | Image Magick 6.0 -- do I have to install this? | 11:25 |
| leopardus | tnx | 11:35 |
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| leopardus | Install of Data::Structure::Util failed! :( what am I supposed to do now? | 12:40 |
| +Radix_ | the best way to install webgui is through the wre | 12:41 |
| leopardus | and what's that? | 12:41 |
| +Radix_ | WebGUI Runtime Environment | 12:41 |
| leopardus | how do I ?? | 12:42 |
| +Radix_ | http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/wre-installation | 12:42 |
| +Radix_ | actually.. looks like http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/installing-wre-0.8.0 is the latest one | 12:43 |
| +Radix_ | WRE comes prepackaged with perl, apache, mysql and all the perl modules you need to run webgui | 12:43 |
| +Radix_ | if you can, I'd highly recommend the WRE | 12:44 |
| leopardus | will it change all my apache, mysql, perl and everything? | 12:45 |
| leopardus | I'm running Slackware 12 | 12:45 |
| +Radix_ | if your server already has apache, perl, etc and you have other things running on the system you want to put webgui on, then you'll need to keep looking at installing those perl modules | 12:45 |
| +Radix_ | you may be able to force install data::structure::util to get past it | 12:45 |
| +Radix_ | some perl modules have pretty broken test suites and may work fine but depend on other things to get them to work | 12:46 |
| leopardus | will I have to stay pressing enter with wre, or just leave it going for an hour or so? | 12:47 |
| +Radix_ | Well if you're using slackware then I'd say continue how you're going | 12:48 |
| +Radix_ | there's no wre binary package for slackware and compiling it from source can be hard | 12:49 |
| leopardus | what about Data::Structure::Util? | 12:49 |
| +Radix_ | force install it if you can | 12:49 |
| leopardus | how?? | 12:49 |
| +Radix_ | in cpan use: force install Data::Structure::Util | 12:50 |
| leopardus | cpan : make had returned bad status, install seems impossible!! | 12:51 |
| +Radix_ | Oh, so it failed to compile totally? not just failed tests? | 12:52 |
| +Radix_ | Bit out of my depth then if that's the case.. prolly best to talk to some of the PB guys when they're on and see if they can help | 12:53 |
| leopardus | even Apache2::Request failed | 12:53 |
| +Radix_ | Sorry, I use the WRE and it's been ages since I've installed webgui manually | 12:53 |
| leopardus | how is it anyway, is it stable? | 12:54 |
| +Radix_ | Post it up on the forums and you may get some help, or hang around and ask on here | 12:54 |
| +Radix_ | try a demo site - http://demo.plainblack.com/ | 12:54 |
| leopardus | Radix_ do you use WebGUI for work? | 12:54 |
| +Radix_ | I use webgui for both my company website/intranet/extranet, and several other websites that I host | 12:55 |
| +Radix_ | You can install it using the WRE in about 10 minutes | 12:55 |
| leopardus | that's what I'm going to try | 12:56 |
| +Radix_ | then adding a new website to the same setup is about as simple as typing 'addsite' | 12:56 |
| leopardus | ok, will be back, r u here for long? | 12:56 |
| +Radix_ | It's 8pm for me here and I'm just relaxing after work, so maybe :) | 12:57 |
| leopardus | you must be in CA? | 12:57 |
| leopardus | or on the other side | 12:58 |
| +Radix_ | lol | 12:59 |
| +Radix_ | Perth, Western Australia :) | 12:59 |
| leopardus | I always make this mistake | 13:00 |
| +Radix_ | So where are you located then? | 13:01 |
| leopardus | because I have a brother in CA and had another brother in Melbourne, so when I had to call I had to add/deduct 8 hours | 13:01 |
| leopardus | Malta, a little island in the middle of Europe | 13:01 |
| +Radix_ | Ahh.. cool | 13:02 |
| leopardus | actually in the middle of the meditterranean sea | 13:02 |
| +Radix_ | Never been there I'm afraid, only been as close as Rome :) | 13:04 |
| leopardus | I was in Melbourne for about two years | 13:04 |
| leopardus | about 23 years ago!! | 13:04 |
| +Radix_ | hehe | 13:05 |
| +Radix_ | Well I was born there, but escaped at a young age ;) | 13:05 |
| leopardus | are you Italian? | 13:05 |
| +Radix_ | haha.. no, I mean I was born in Melbourne ;) | 13:06 |
| leopardus | ok | 13:06 |
| +Radix_ | I have italian neighbours, but I'm afraid we don't get along too well ;) | 13:06 |
| leopardus | do you know any maltese? | 13:07 |
| +Radix_ | I'm afraid not | 13:07 |
| leopardus | whereabouts from Melbourne? | 13:08 |
| +Radix_ | Was born in Kew and still have quite a lot of family there - in Geelong and Bairnsdale mostly | 13:08 |
| leopardus | Geelong is cool, went there once | 13:09 |
| leopardus | I stayed in St. Albans and Albion | 13:10 |
| leopardus | downloaded the wre source | 13:10 |
| leopardus | v | 13:10 |
| +Radix_ | Good luck! :) | 13:10 |
| leopardus | off for some work, will talk later, nice knowing you | 13:12 |
| +Radix_ | likewise :) | 13:12 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings | 15:57 |
| @khenn | morning | 15:57 |
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| leopardus | what are the addresses of the mailing lists? | 16:05 |
| leopardus | khenn : what are the addresses of the mailing lists, plz? | 16:06 |
| @khenn | erm | 16:06 |
| @khenn | what mailing lists are you talking about? | 16:06 |
| @khenn | the dev list? | 16:06 |
| leopardus | the users' for now | 16:07 |
| @khenn | I'm not sure I know of a users mailing list ... | 16:07 |
| leopardus | is there a dev one? | 16:10 |
| @khenn | yes | 16:10 |
| @khenn | you need to subscribe to it | 16:10 |
| leopardus | I subscribe from the site ? | 16:11 |
| @khenn | http://www.plainblack.com/webgui/dev/discuss | 16:11 |
| leopardus | ok | 16:12 |
| leopardus | just finished ./build.sh --all, now? | 16:12 |
| leopardus | got to go will be back later | 16:14 |
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| wgGuest83 | Can a dynamic content page like forums have more than 1 position built into the pagelayout? | 16:41 |
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| bartjol | wgguest83: sure it can | 16:55 |
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| nutrino | Is there a tmpl_var to detect http user agent? | 18:04 |
| @rizen | no | 18:05 |
| nutrino | damn, i was hoping it would be easy to detect an iphone and display a nav asset using cool buttons. | 18:05 |
| nutrino | i gotta use a macro to detect it? | 18:05 |
| @khenn | you could do it with javascript | 18:06 |
| @khenn | oh | 18:06 |
| @khenn | nm | 18:06 |
| @khenn | env var | 18:06 |
| @khenn | yeah you'll need to use a macro | 18:06 |
| @preaction | js can see user agents too | 18:06 |
| @preaction | the navigator object | 18:06 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5008 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm t/Asset/AssetLineage.t): add more tests to cover AssetLineage->getChildCount. Optimize the new SQL query in getChildCount | 23:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5009 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm t/Asset/AssetLineage.t): backport AssetLineage tests and fixes for getChildCount | 23:33 |
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| cap10morgan | I'm having a hard time tracking down the template language documentation in the help (or otherwise). Did that get moved around? (This is in 7.4.14) | 23:56 |
| cap10morgan | can you say <tmpl_unless ...> or <tmpl_if ! something> ? | 23:57 |
| @khenn | the documentation you can find on search.cpan.org | 23:58 |
| @khenn | look for HTML::Template | 23:58 |
| @khenn | or HTML::Template::Expr | 23:58 |
| @khenn | whichever you are using | 23:58 |
| @khenn | <tmpl_unless> is the answer | 23:58 |
| @khenn | btw =) | 23:58 |
| cap10morgan | khenn: ah, perfect. thanks. | 23:59 |
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| wgGuest90 | hello people! | 00:24 |
| perlDreamer | hello, wgGuest90 | 00:25 |
| perlDreamer | Do you have a question for us? | 00:25 |
| wgGuest90 | yes.. ofcourse.. | 00:25 |
| wgGuest90 | thanks | 00:25 |
| wgGuest90 | actually i am seeing that a "secondary admin" group can create user with Admin privilege.. | 00:25 |
| wgGuest90 | is this done deliberately? | 00:26 |
| perlDreamer | ah yes, I saw your posting on the discussion boards. | 00:26 |
| wgGuest90 | if i want to show group list that the creating user(secondary admiN) is associated, then what should i do? | 00:26 |
| wgGuest90 | yes.. i just posted it.. | 00:27 |
| perlDreamer | I don't know if it's possible to show which groups a person is secondary Admin for. | 00:27 |
| wgGuest90 | oops! | 00:28 |
| wgGuest90 | so if we have rights to create user, then we can create user with Admin privilege . .. right? | 00:29 |
| perlDreamer | I think you may be using the wrong terms. | 00:31 |
| perlDreamer | In the wG settings, there are special groups that you can set up to add users, or add and edit users. | 00:32 |
| perlDreamer | They should be able to create Admins. | 00:32 |
| perlDreamer | But groups also have a special function, called secondaryAdmin or groupAdmin | 00:32 |
| perlDreamer | that is allowed to help with JUST this group. | 00:32 |
| perlDreamer | They are not supposed to be able to create users, just manage the group | 00:33 |
| perlDreamer | Now, are you really talking about secondaryAdmins, or about the groups from the Settings page in the Admin Console? | 00:33 |
| wgGuest90 | i am talking about groups in the admin page | 00:37 |
| wgGuest90 | the one we see while clicking groups in "admin console" | 00:38 |
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| wgGuest90 | so there's a list of groups where we can see Secondary Admin. | 00:39 |
| wgGuest90 | And another fact is that .. in setting->Permission page we assigned "groups (limited)" to secondary admin | 00:40 |
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| wgGuest90 | so, if we add a user in that group(i.e. secondary admin) then the responsibility of that user is to manage the group not creating users.. right?? | 00:43 |
| wgGuest90 | ? | 00:44 |
| perlDreamer | tracing code, please be patient | 00:44 |
| wgGuest90 | oops.. i thought i get diconnected.. sorry.. | 00:45 |
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| perlDreamer | no, no. You're still here :) | 00:45 |
| wgGuest90 | :D | 00:45 |
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| perlDreamer | okay, the code looks clean, and I went through these steps | 00:49 |
| perlDreamer | 1: made sure that Groups (limited) = Secondary Admins | 00:49 |
| perlDreamer | 2: Added a new user : Bob | 00:49 |
| perlDreamer | 3: Added Bob to Secondary Admins | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | logged out as Admin, logged in as Bob | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | 5: Turn Admin On | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | 6: Go to Groups | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | I see no groups in the list | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | Is that similar to what you've done? | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | Oh, and this is on WebGUI 7.4.14 | 00:50 |
| wgGuest90 | yes | 00:50 |
| perlDreamer | which version are you using? | 00:51 |
| wgGuest90 | hold on | 00:51 |
| wgGuest90 | 7.4.11 i gues | 00:53 |
| wgGuest90 | wre 0.8.0 | 00:53 |
| wgGuest90 | for ubuntu | 00:53 |
| perlDreamer | Are you an Admin on this site? | 00:53 |
| wgGuest90 | on this site? i deployed in my ubuntu machine. | 00:54 |
| perlDreamer | This user that you put into the Secondary Admin group, are they also a member of the Admin group? | 00:55 |
| wgGuest90 | so in your case, Bob can create user and could assign it to any groups (even admin) right? | 00:56 |
| wgGuest90 | hold on .. i'll see that | 00:56 |
| wgGuest90 | he's also assigned to other groups like "Content manger" and "turn admin on " | 00:57 |
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| wgGuest90 | what if the "Secondary Admin" groups contain other groups like "Admin"???? | 01:00 |
| wgGuest90 | will that affect? | 01:00 |
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| wgGuest90 | what if the "secondary admin" groups contain other groups like "Admin"??? | 01:01 |
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| perlDreamer | due to the netsplit, I may have lost some of what you said | 01:04 |
| perlDreamer | last thing I have is asking if your site has Users (add) set to Secondary Admins | 01:04 |
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| wgGuest90 | yes .. it is | 01:06 |
| wgGuest90 | User (add only) -> Secondary Admins | 01:07 |
| wgGuest90 | i just want to add a new user assign a group that the creating users is associated. Moreover the user inside Secondary admin should manage the groups. | 01:08 |
| wgGuest90 | i have to leave can u please post it into forum.. if there's any rigid solution.. if you didn't get my question.. i'll come back tonight.. i have to leave now.. thanks for the help.. i really appreciate it.. | 01:09 |
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| perlDreamer | Did y'all see that Maryland now has a 6% sales tax on "custom computer programming"? | 01:49 |
| @preaction | rofl nice | 01:51 |
| perlDreamer | It's only for in-state people, so maybe we'll see a little more work. 6% is a respectable number. | 01:51 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5010 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm t/Asset/AssetLineage.t): | 06:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: State and status fix for AssetLineage->getDescendantCount, and tests to | 06:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: double check it. | 06:03 |
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| leopardus | ADMIN: [Error] Couldn't connect to WebGUI site www.il-lus.com.conf at http://www.il-lus.com:80/?op=spectreGetSiteData. Response: 500 Can't connect to www.il-lus.com:80 (connect: Connection refused) | 12:45 |
| leopardus | ADMIN: [Error] Couldn't fetch Spectre configuration data for WebGUI.conf | 12:45 |
| leopardus | overview of my prob, will be going out in 10min, any help? | 12:46 |
| leopardus | I'm doing a source install | 12:46 |
| +MrHairgrease | well | 12:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | that url is giving a Fatal Internal Error | 12:47 |
| +MrHairgrease | so that'w why Spectre cannot connect to it. | 12:48 |
| leopardus | when I restart apache, I see no httpd processes like before | 12:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | something is wrong with your webgui | 12:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | did you change th econfig file? | 12:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | what does the webgui.log say? | 12:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5011 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix: DataForm doesn't send mail if mail fields in tab | 12:48 |
| leopardus | ADMIN: [Error] Couldn't connect to WebGUI site www.il-lus.com.conf at http://www.il-lus.com:80/?op=spectreGetSiteData. Response: 500 Can't connect to www.il-lus.com:80 (connect: Connection refused) | 12:50 |
| leopardus | ADMIN: [Error] Couldn't fetch Spectre configuration data for WebGUI.conf | 12:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | not that error | 12:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's spectre complaining | 12:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | the error that appears when you restart apache | 12:50 |
| +MrHairgrease | also check your apache error log | 12:50 |
| leopardus | another prob, sorry I have to go, I'll be here again in about 2-3 hours | 12:50 |
| leopardus | ok | 12:50 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5012 /branch/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 13:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 5011 via svnmerge from | 13:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/WebGUI | 13:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 13:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r5011 | graham | 2007-11-21 04:40:09 -0600 (Wed, 21 Nov 2007) | 1 line | 13:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix: DataForm doesn't send mail if mail fields in tab | 13:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 13:03 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 15:48 |
| +MrHairgrease | Greasings =) | 15:48 |
| SDuensin | Hi MrHairgrease | 15:48 |
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| leopardus | hello : running source install, should I chown to nobody /data ?? | 17:34 |
| @preaction | no, that would probably be a bad idea | 17:35 |
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| leopardus | I just installed, it seems to be running, however the WebGUI initial configuration does not display the background pic! | 17:36 |
| leopardus | and no wordings | 17:37 |
| @preaction | did you copy the initial uploads folder to your site's uploads folder? | 17:37 |
| leopardus | think I did, have to check | 17:38 |
| leopardus | moment | 17:38 |
| @preaction | does your config know where the extras folder is? | 17:38 |
| @preaction | did you check the error log for webgui? did you check the error log for modperl? | 17:38 |
| leopardus | this time I used the source install guide on the site | 17:39 |
| @preaction | last i knew that was a bit out of date | 17:40 |
| leopardus | what are the three fields of the initial screen? | 17:53 |
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| @preaction | leopardus, there's something wrong with your extras folder or your uploads folder, most likely the extras folder. if the background doesn't show up, that's only going to be the first problem. if you do not fix that problem, you will not make it very far | 18:26 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5013 /WebGUI/t/Asset/AssetLineage.t: more coverage tests for getDescendantCount, checking state and status | 20:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5014 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (lib/WebGUI/AssetLineage.pm t/Asset/AssetLineage.t): backporting AssetLineage fix and tests for getDescendantCount from trunk | 21:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | rizen | 21:34 |
| @rizen | MHG | 21:34 |
| +MrHairgrease | $self->session->form->process('consultationHoursFile'.$1, 'simpleFile') should process my custom form thingy roight? | 21:35 |
| +MrHairgrease | SimpleFile being my custom plugin | 21:35 |
| @rizen | provided SimpleFile is working, yes | 21:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | ok | 21:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | here's the weird thing | 21:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | SimpleFile inherits from File | 21:36 |
| @rizen | in the same way that Image does? | 21:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | even if I completly remove my own processFormPost | 21:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | it will not have a value if the file is set to keep | 21:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | uh | 21:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah | 21:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | Simple file use base WG::F::File" | 21:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | so what happens is this | 21:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | 1) no file uploaded | 21:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | 2) upload a file | 21:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | -this works- | 21:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | 3) save the form again without changing anything | 21:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | 4) view the form again | 21:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | - no more file - | 21:39 |
| @rizen | is your form being generated the same way as file? | 21:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | I traced it down to the $self->get('value') WG::F::File->processFormPost being empty | 21:39 |
| @rizen | with the special keep, delete, etc options | 21:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 21:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | even if i | 21:39 |
| @rizen | ok, and there's one more thing you need to know | 21:39 |
| +MrHairgrease | it work when I use it as aprofile field btw | 21:40 |
| @rizen | when you do proces() | 21:40 |
| @rizen | you must pass in a default value, that includes the current storage location | 21:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | aha | 21:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | i thhought it might be something like that | 21:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's what the profilingsystem does | 21:40 |
| +MrHairgrease | why doesn't it grab it from the form params if I may ask? | 21:41 |
| @rizen | it doesn't have it in the params | 21:41 |
| +MrHairgrease | 229 $uploadControl .= WebGUI::Form::Hidden->new($self->session, {-name => $self->get("name"), -value => $self->get("value")})->toHtml()."<br />"; | 21:42 |
| +MrHairgrease | so it has, right? | 21:42 |
| @rizen | i guess it does have it | 21:43 |
| @rizen | well then i don't know | 21:43 |
| @rizen | i'd have to research it | 21:43 |
| @rizen | it could be that there is a good reason | 21:43 |
| @rizen | it could be that i was brain dead when i wrote it | 21:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | I think I'm braindead too | 21:44 |
| @rizen | but it can't be changed without looking at all the existing code that uses it to make sure it wouldn't fuck something up | 21:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | It still doesn't work | 21:44 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks anyway | 21:44 |
| @rizen | sure | 21:45 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'll try to figure it out | 21:45 |
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| leopardus | should the extras directory be copied to the domain? | 22:01 |
| @preaction | leopardus, no. the configuration file has a setting for where the extras folder is located | 22:04 |
| leopardus | preaction, what about the uploads? Should there be an alias for it too in httpd.conf, and which directory? | 22:05 |
| @preaction | no. not httpd.conf, the webgui configuration file | 22:05 |
| @preaction | you shouldn't need another alias if uploads is underneath your DocumentRoot | 22:07 |
| leopardus | preaction, ok, looks like it's working, now I need to learn how to use it! | 22:11 |
| @preaction | that's the experimentation part. use the wiki (see the /topic). feel free to contribute back to the wiki if something is in error. especially in the source install instructions (as i said before, they're probably out of date) | 22:13 |
| @preaction | wait a minute: With the new WRE perl libraries, it would be possible to develop and maintain distro-packaged WebGUIS | 22:15 |
| @preaction | not that plainblack should waste its time/money on it when we have the WRE itself, but if someone in the community... | 22:16 |
| @preaction | why does AssetLineage.pm->setParent() do checking on the current user's groups? | 22:19 |
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| wgGuest90 | hello all | 22:28 |
| wgGuest90 | did anyone take a look at this.. http://www.webgui.org/webgui/dev/discuss/secondary-admin-can-create-user-with-admin-privilege | 22:30 |
| wgGuest90 | any suggestions? | 22:30 |
| @preaction | post an RFE for some differently-grained privileges in the Admin Console? | 22:31 |
| @preaction | post an RFE for Secondary Admins to only allow them to add users to groups they're a member of? | 22:32 |
| wgGuest90 | yes, i just posted it. | 22:34 |
| wgGuest90 | So, do i have to wait for next version of WebGUI for this??? | 22:35 |
| @preaction | if approved, it would go in no earlier than 7.5, correct | 22:35 |
| wgGuest90 | can't i do some little tweak on previous code? | 22:36 |
| @preaction | i imagine you might be able to get a patch for your version, if the developer who implements your RFE is feeling generous | 22:36 |
| wgGuest90 | oh! | 22:36 |
| wgGuest90 | i guess its not a whole lot of change in code though.. so may be anybody guide me . then i would change the code. | 22:37 |
| @preaction | we're not talking days or even weeks here though, we're probably talking months, again, unless someone is feeling up to doing it | 22:37 |
| wgGuest90 | hmm.. ok.. | 22:38 |
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| @preaction | i'm looking at the code in question, and it's pretty ugly. you're correct in that it isn't much code, the problem is that that code needs to be re-written. 3-4 hours of work + tests | 22:40 |
| wgGuest90 | oh! | 22:41 |
| wgGuest90 | ok.. i'll too take a look at it.. and find what i can do .. | 22:41 |
| wgGuest90 | do u know where should i look for it.. cause actually i'm kinda new to webgui.. | 22:42 |
| @preaction | if you're planning on hacking on WebGUI, please search the wiki for the Coding Guidelines or "WebGUI Best Practices" | 22:42 |
| @preaction | it's in lib/WebGUI/Operation/User.pm | 22:42 |
| @preaction | everything an Administrator does is called an Operation. they use ?op=<something> in the URL and are located in the WebGUI::Operation::* namespace | 22:43 |
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| wgGuest90 | sure .. i'll see what i can do. | 22:44 |
| wgGuest90 | thanks.. | 22:44 |
| leopardus | I cannot see the video in 'Getting Started'! | 22:48 |
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| perlDreamer | preaction: setParent is a security fix found by Lucas Bartholemy | 22:58 |
| perlDreamer | double check the version log for details | 22:59 |
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| perlDreamer | It was a beautiful hack | 22:59 |
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| @preaction | perlDreamer, all it has is something about MultiSearch fixes and setParent | 23:02 |
| @preaction | it looks like the actual fix occurred under a branch | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | could be | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | Who's the committer | 23:03 |
| @preaction | you | 23:03 |
| @preaction | svn log -r996 | 23:03 |
| @preaction | 995 and 994 don't seem to exist in HEAD | 23:04 |
| perlDreamer | yup, branch_6.8 | 23:05 |
| @preaction | oh, now i see it | 23:05 |
| perlDreamer | https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/plainblack/revision/?rev=995 | 23:06 |
| perlDreamer | gtg, bbl | 23:06 |
| @preaction | hazel:WebGUI root# svn log https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack -r995 | 23:06 |
| @preaction | cya | 23:06 |
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| wgGuest90 | i've got a question.. | 23:23 |
| wgGuest90 | whats the difference between the User.pm inside and outside the Operation folder. | 23:24 |
| wgGuest90 | is the User.pm in side the Operation is only called by when Admin is on????? is it true? | 23:24 |
| @preaction | WebGUI::User is a user object. WebGUI::Operation::User is all the admin functions to manage users | 23:25 |
| wgGuest90 | oh! .. thanks.. | 23:28 |
| wgGuest90 | this is a stupid question.. where should i look for if do print in code... it isn't immediately showing in my console.. is it dumping into somekind of log file?? | 23:35 |
| @preaction | print will not do what you expect. warn will dump to the apache error file. WebGUI::Session::ErrorHandler::warn() will go to the webgui error file, WebGUI::Session::Output->print will go to the browser | 23:36 |
| wgGuest90 | oh!!.. thanks :D | 23:37 |
| wgGuest90 | why isn't it reflectingin front after i made some change in User.pm..?? | 23:50 |
| wgGuest90 | ? | 23:53 |
| @preaction | you have to restart apache after you change code | 23:56 |
| @preaction | or use Apache2::Reload | 23:56 |
| @preaction | that's a mod_perl thing | 23:57 |
| @preaction | also, there's an article on the wiki about how to get your code into WebGUI core, i think | 23:58 |
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| perlDreamer | Hola, MrHairgrease | 00:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | ola Colin | 00:21 |
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| cap10morgan | is there a way to pre-fill a dataform via query parameters passed in the url? | 01:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | maybe with the FormParam macro | 01:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | if you put that in the default value of the field that is | 01:11 |
| cap10morgan | hmm... | 01:11 |
| +MrHairgrease | It should so the trick | 01:12 |
| +MrHairgrease | do* | 01:12 |
| cap10morgan | i think i want the opposite trick, though | 01:12 |
| cap10morgan | i want to create a link to a dataform that will pre-fill its fields based on values i pass in via that link | 01:12 |
| wgGuest90 | hello again | 01:13 |
| +MrHairgrease | how is that opposite? | 01:13 |
| cap10morgan | this macro pulls up the value of a form field | 01:13 |
| wgGuest90 | anybody know what $tabform->getTab("groups")->group does? | 01:13 |
| cap10morgan | i want to write the value of a form field | 01:13 |
| perlDreamer | wgGuest90: Read WebGUI::TabForm | 01:13 |
| perlDreamer | cap10morgan, the FormParam macro pulls stuff from the URL and gives it to you as text | 01:14 |
| perlDreamer | MHG is right on the money | 01:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | you want to set the initial values of a dataform by adding form params to the url of that df right? | 01:14 |
| +MrHairgrease | what pd says | 01:14 |
| perlDreamer | The only question is whether the DF default value will process macros or not | 01:15 |
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| perlDreamer | If it doesn't you'll have to do it via ecmascript | 01:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | sure it will | 01:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | wheter or not it does that | 01:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | they'll be processed when the page is rendered | 01:15 |
| perlDreamer | true | 01:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | you might run in trouble incase of selectlists though | 01:15 |
| perlDreamer | Don't use those | 01:15 |
| cap10morgan | ah, so you can say dataform?myparam=foo and then say ^FormParam(myparam); as the defaultValue? | 01:15 |
| +MrHairgrease | and images and that sort of crap | 01:15 |
| perlDreamer | yup | 01:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 01:16 |
| cap10morgan | ok, cool | 01:16 |
| cap10morgan | thanks | 01:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | hehe | 01:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | np | 01:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | and you shod try selectlist too | 01:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | just to figure out what happens | 01:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | if not for you, then for us =) | 01:16 |
| perlDreamer | I think the DF only does single select stuff, so it ought to work. | 01:16 |
| cap10morgan | haha, ok | 01:16 |
| +MrHairgrease | pd: if they are evaluated after the fact | 01:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | no option will be scelectes | 01:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | since webgui won't see a key '^FormParam(blabla);' | 01:18 |
| perlDreamer | but if they're evalated early, it should work | 01:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | yes | 01:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | that's why cap10morgan is trying it out for us =) | 01:18 |
| cap10morgan | yeah, we'll see. if i get this done and working tonight, i'll try out whatever you guys want me to... on friday. :) (tomorrow is turkey day here in the US) | 01:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | WebGUI::Macro::process($self->session,\$defaultValue); | 01:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | so it does process them itself | 01:20 |
| perlDreamer | yes | 01:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | no need to find out anymore | 01:20 |
| perlDreamer | We should add that to Tavis's list for next year's WUC | 01:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | or have another talk | 01:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | 20 thing Tavis doesn't know about webgui =) | 01:20 |
| perlDreamer | That's all you, man | 01:21 |
| perlDreamer | The Easter Eggs ought to count for at least 6 more | 01:21 |
| perlDreamer | so you're up to 7 | 01:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | huh? | 01:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | what do you mean | 01:22 |
| perlDreamer | I'm guessing that Tavis doesn't know about the easter eggs in WebGUI. So with the macro processing and the easter eggs, you have 7 things he does not know. | 01:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | ah i see | 01:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'm not sure if i know about six | 01:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | is that including the wre one? | 01:23 |
| +MrHairgrease | there are also two that is actually one | 01:24 |
| perlDreamer | are you getting my privmsg? | 01:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | no | 01:25 |
| perlDreamer | hmmmm | 01:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | let me msg you then | 01:25 |
| +MrHairgrease | did that arrive? | 01:26 |
| perlDreamer | yes, you're not getting my responses | 01:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | i am not indeed | 01:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | too bad | 01:26 |
| perlDreamer | I need to fix my IRC account | 01:26 |
| wgGuest90 | hello | 01:26 |
| perlDreamer | I'm sure there are 6, including the WRE | 01:26 |
| perlDreamer | but I've forgotten where one is | 01:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | the last two i mentioned are actually broken | 01:26 |
| +MrHairgrease | An error was encountered while processing your request. | 01:27 |
| wgGuest90 | why am i not getting anything inside this array @groupsToAdd in file User.pm at line 406 | 01:27 |
| wgGuest90 | ? | 01:27 |
| perlDreamer | wgGuest90: do you mean Operation:User.pm ? | 01:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | it is not in WG::User | 01:27 |
| +MrHairgrease | yeah it's in Op::User | 01:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | I'm not sure what you mean wgguest90 | 01:28 |
| +MrHairgrease | what do you mean by not getting in an array? | 01:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | oh | 01:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | nm | 01:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | i should learn to read | 01:29 |
| +MrHairgrease | it doesn't work through the editUser screen? | 01:30 |
| perlDreamer | That's a sticky form setting. The first time into the form, it should be blank. | 01:30 |
| wgGuest90 | yes.. Operation:user.pm | 01:31 |
| wgGuest90 | u mean it is blank at first? | 01:32 |
| perlDreamer | Should be | 01:33 |
| wgGuest90 | so when will the data loaded in it. | 01:33 |
| perlDreamer | If there's no form params, then it will be blank | 01:33 |
| perlDreamer | The group list should be prepopulated after the save button is hit | 01:33 |
| perlDreamer | MrHairgrease: is Pannen Koeken one or two words? | 01:33 |
| wgGuest90 | but after calling _submenu(session,......).. it will return corrent result of HTML tags. | 01:34 |
| perlDreamer | no | 01:34 |
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| wgGuest90 | it wil return my submenu = _submenu(session,... ).. but when i print submenu.. then its showing all the groups.. | 01:35 |
| +MrHairgrease | one | 01:35 |
| +MrHairgrease | almost all words in dutch are compund words | 01:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | or whatever that's called | 01:36 |
| perlDreamer | that's correct (compound) | 01:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | in dutch it would be compoundwords | 01:36 |
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| @preaction | newspeak doubleplusgoodly easythink | 01:37 |
| @preaction | or is it doubleplusgoodwise? i can never remember | 01:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | i always go for blinkenlights | 01:38 |
| perlDreamer | blinkenlights is famous | 01:38 |
| @preaction | achtungs! attentions lookenspeepers! | 01:38 |
| @preaction | it still makes me laugh every time | 01:38 |
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| perlDreamer | wgGuest90: the call to _submenu contains: $tabform->print, which renders the all the form code as HTML. | 01:48 |
| perlDreamer | but it won't populate the groupsToAdd form with anything other than what it was set up with. | 01:49 |
| wgGuest90 | so do you know when will it query the database to get list of groups.? | 01:52 |
| @preaction | when the form elements are created. that's what the getTab()->group() method does | 01:54 |
| @preaction | creates a WebGUI::Form::Group form element | 01:54 |
| wgGuest90 | is this the one? | 01:58 |
| wgGuest90 | $tabform->getTab("groups")->group(-name=>"groupsToAdd", -label=>$i18n->get("groups to add"), -excludeGroups=>\@exclude,-size=>15,-multiple=>1,-value=>\@groupsToAdd ); | 01:58 |
| perlDreamer | Yes | 02:00 |
| wgGuest90 | i see it is referencing @groupsToAdd.. | 02:01 |
| perlDreamer | yes | 02:01 |
| wgGuest90 | for what purpose? | 02:01 |
| wgGuest90 | for any extra groups..? | 02:01 |
| perlDreamer | it preselects any groups from the last form display and submit | 02:01 |
| wgGuest90 | hmm. | 02:02 |
| perlDreamer | that's what the value field does for that form control | 02:02 |
| perlDreamer | You want to do something different from that. | 02:02 |
| perlDreamer | Keep tracing the code down further. You're getting closer and learning tons. | 02:03 |
| wgGuest90 | thnx.. | 02:04 |
| wgGuest90 | same case for grouptodelete right? it select any group from last form.. | 02:05 |
| perlDreamer | yes | 02:06 |
| wgGuest90 | getTab("groups") <------- this "groups" is tabname right? | 02:09 |
| wgGuest90 | name of a tab | 02:09 |
| @preaction | right | 02:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | not the name | 02:09 |
| wgGuest90 | it will return a group object?? | 02:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | the id | 02:09 |
| @preaction | not the name, the id | 02:09 |
| wgGuest90 | ok.. | 02:09 |
| +MrHairgrease | no | 02:09 |
| @preaction | and it returns an HTMLForm object, see WebGUI::TabForm | 02:09 |
| wgGuest90 | oh yaa | 02:09 |
| wgGuest90 | tabform->getTab("groups")->group( .. so this "->group(" is what?? | 02:10 |
| +MrHairgrease | that will add a group for element to the htmlform of the group tab | 02:11 |
| wgGuest90 | is it a HTML object? | 02:11 |
| @preaction | HTMLForm has an autoloader that creates WebGUI::Form controls | 02:11 |
| @preaction | see AUTOLOAD { } in HTMLForm and WebGUI::Form::Control (and the specific controls) for more details | 02:11 |
| @preaction | autoload is, of course, bad. but we can't get rid of it now | 02:11 |
| wgGuest90 | hmm.. (now its getting bigger).. | 02:12 |
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| wgGuest90 | is AUTOLOAD is called automatically? | 02:17 |
| wgGuest90 | i mean we don't have to called it explicitly. | 02:17 |
| @preaction | autoload is a special perl construct | 02:17 |
| +MrHairgrease | no you don't | 02:17 |
| wgGuest90 | o o.. | 02:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's part of perl's method dispaching system | 02:18 |
| @preaction | it basically means "If you don't find the method you're looking for, run this block instead" | 02:18 |
| wgGuest90 | so AUTOLOAD is called autmatically which ultimately populate corresponding HTMLForm. | 02:19 |
| @preaction | no. ->group() gets called. Perl tries to find WebGUI::HTMLForm::group and fails, so it calls AUTOLOAD which tells Perl to load WebGUI::Control::Group, instanciate an object, and call ->toHtml on it, to add to the HTMLForm | 02:20 |
| @preaction | the end result is that group({}) corresponds to WebGUI::Form::Group->new( {} )->toHtml; | 02:21 |
| @preaction | {} being the configuration for the form element | 02:21 |
| wgGuest90 | yes.. i am looking at the code. | 02:27 |
| wgGuest90 | Group is WebGUI form and is subclass of SelectList<-List<-control | 02:28 |
| wgGuest90 | actually our main target is to fill "options" in List right? | 02:32 |
| wgGuest90 | i mean WebGUI::Form::List | 02:32 |
| wgGuest90 | we can say.. fill "options" with list of groups in WebGUI::Form::Group | 02:33 |
| wgGuest90 | we also use -value=>\@groupsToAdd.. but i don't see this "value" is used?.. however i can see "excludeGroups" is used while query in database.. | 02:35 |
| +MrHairgrease | pass a hashref containing the key-value pairs you want to appear in slect list to the option property | 02:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | the option you want to be selected in the elemented should be passed to value | 02:36 |
| +MrHairgrease | as an arrayref containing the keys of the options you want to select | 02:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | anyway | 02:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | gotta go | 02:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's time for bed over here | 02:37 |
| wgGuest90 | oh!.. | 02:37 |
| +MrHairgrease | have fun hacking at webgui! | 02:38 |
| wgGuest90 | ok.. i'll keep diggin. | 02:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | it's worth it | 02:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | later | 02:38 |
| wgGuest90 | yaa.. but i think this is just a begining | 02:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | it is | 02:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | =) | 02:38 |
| wgGuest90 | thx | 02:38 |
| wgGuest90 | good night | 02:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | the webgui code base isquite large | 02:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | thanks | 02:38 |
| +MrHairgrease | bye | 02:38 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5015 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): event, group, and article fixes | 07:03 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5016 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt t/Asset/File/Image.t): fix image asset test | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5017 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/docs/create.sql: preparing for 7.4.15 release | 07:33 |
| +perlDreamer | Haarg: You rock! | 07:36 |
| +perlDreamer | How did you fix the test? | 07:36 |
| @Haarg | it needed to do the object mocking before loading the module | 07:37 |
| @Haarg | so i put the mockobject code into a BEGIN so it would happen before the use lnes | 07:37 |
| +perlDreamer | nice | 07:39 |
| +perlDreamer | Are you doing something to pb.com? | 07:39 |
| @Haarg | i will be in a minute | 07:40 |
| +perlDreamer | It's acting weird. I go to wg.org, log in, and get redirected to pb.com | 07:40 |
| @Haarg | i get the same | 07:41 |
| +perlDreamer | What time do you think you'll be done with the release? | 07:44 |
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| +perlDreamer | I have some more pending state/status fix commits to make. It's easy enough to save 'til tomorrow though. | 07:44 |
| @Haarg | it shouldn't be too long | 07:45 |
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| @Haarg | you can commit now | 07:57 |
| +perlDreamer | thanks, man | 08:01 |
| +perlDreamer | oh, it's going to be a while. t/Session/Url.t is all messed up. | 08:03 |
| +perlDreamer | I gotta remember to backport all this stuff, too. | 08:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5018 /releases/WebGUI_7.4.15-stable: Release 7.4.15-stable | 08:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5019 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.5.16 dev | 08:03 |
| +perlDreamer | s/7.5/7.4/; | 08:04 |
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| -!- Radix-wrk changed the topic of #webgui to: [ WebGUI 7.4.14-stable | WRE 0.8.0 ] Before you ask, check the wiki: http://wiki.webgui.org | Pastebin: http://webgui.pastebin.com/ | WebGUI Community Contests, Win Money/Fame/Prizes: http://webgui.org/wcc | 08:10 | |
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| @Haarg | oop | 08:16 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5020 /WebGUI/ (9 files in 6 dirs): merging 7.4 changes | 08:18 |
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| leopardus | yesterday I installed WebGUI, and I think I have a prob! | 09:45 |
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| leopardus | perlbot: | 09:56 |
| leopardus | khenn: | 09:57 |
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| @khenn | leopardus: I'm around for a bit | 14:38 |
| leopardus | I just solved the prob, maybe you'll like to know | 14:50 |
| @khenn | what was the problem? | 14:50 |
| leopardus | no pictures were showing up after a source install | 14:51 |
| leopardus | there's a small mistake in http://www.webgui.org/community-wiki/source-install | 14:51 |
| leopardus | in "WebGUI files" section | 14:52 |
| @khenn | did you fix it? | 14:53 |
| leopardus | I think I fixed it on my site, but not the on the procedure | 14:53 |
| @khenn | it would be nice if you updated the wiki so other people don't make the same mistake | 14:54 |
| leopardus | do I have access? | 14:55 |
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| @khenn | you should | 15:23 |
| @khenn | search for the article | 15:23 |
| @khenn | and you should be able to see the edit tab | 15:23 |
| leopardus | khenn, I just posted it, plz have a look. | 15:26 |
| leopardus | new post | 15:26 |
| @khenn | k | 15:27 |
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| @khenn | what should I search for? | 15:29 |
| @khenn | never mind | 15:29 |
| @khenn | I'm not seeing it yet | 15:29 |
| leopardus | khenn, are you still here? | 15:47 |
| @khenn | yeah, hanging around | 15:47 |
| leopardus | did you have a look at my post? | 15:48 |
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| @khenn | I haven't seen it post yet | 18:58 |
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| +perlDreamer | Happy Thanksgiving, everyone | 19:31 |
| @khenn | same to you | 19:31 |
| @khenn | =) | 19:31 |
| +perlDreamer | Are you hanging out, or working today, Khenn? | 19:32 |
| @khenn | I'm dabbling | 19:32 |
| @khenn | mostly hanging out =) | 19:32 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5021 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): | 21:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Final state and status fixes. | 21:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: In these three files, any check for status=archived was removed, since | 21:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: in each case it is possible that the Asset may want to be viewable | 21:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: when it is archived, like Files, Posts, etc. | 21:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Updated Session/Url.t to remove tests for status=archived. | 21:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5022 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/t/lib/WebGUI/PseudoRequest.pm: backporting PseudoRequest updates from HEAD | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5023 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/t/Session/Url.t: backport new Session/Url.t tests from HEAD | 21:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5024 /WebGUI/t/Storage.t: remove mocking, since we new use PseudoRequest | 23:03 |
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| wgGuest90 | hello people | 01:58 |
| wgGuest90 | what is this mean? | 01:58 |
| wgGuest90 | groupId -> snp1wbQIPjCct-kkFmtbEw | 01:58 |
| wgGuest90 | in groups table | 01:58 |
| +Radix-wrk | it's the id of the group? | 02:05 |
| +Radix-wrk | the table groupings and groupGroupings then use it to store which users belong to that group and what groups belong to that group | 02:07 |
| +Radix-wrk | the default groups are usually simple id's, like 1-30, but any custom groupings are given random hashes like the one you've mentioned | 02:08 |
| wgGuest90 | i think i still didn't get it. | 02:17 |
| wgGuest90 | i found a user have group snp1******* in grouping table | 02:18 |
| wgGuest90 | lets say XYZ have entry snp1*** in groupnig table. | 02:18 |
| wgGuest90 | and snp1*** also got entry in groups table which also have a random hash **** in it. | 02:19 |
| wgGuest90 | but i don't get a point here.. why would the user XYZ need to be in this UNKOWN group??/ | 02:19 |
| wgGuest90 | ? | 02:30 |
| +Radix-wrk | depends what the group is I guess | 02:54 |
| +Radix-wrk | Not all groups are visible in the groups section - some are invisible groups used by webgui for other purposes | 02:54 |
| +Radix-wrk | subscription groups are one such usage | 02:55 |
| wgGuest90 | hmm. | 03:05 |
| wgGuest90 | anybody read this post? | 04:26 |
| wgGuest90 | "Secondary Admin can create user with Admin Privilege" | 04:26 |
| wgGuest90 | ?? | 04:26 |
| wgGuest90 | I changed the code and solved it!!!!!! | 04:27 |
| wgGuest90 | (at least it does what i want) | 04:27 |
| wgGuest90 | so do i need to post code?? if yes. .where??? | 04:27 |
| wgGuest90 | ? | 05:26 |
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| +Radix-wrk | wgGuest90: if it's not already an RFE, then post it up as one, then post the changes needed to fix it and it will get reviewed and possibly accepted for a future version | 06:01 |
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| nuba | blist | 20:32 |
| nuba | oops, wrong window.. | 20:32 |
| nuba | that a bitlbee thing | 20:34 |
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| twanny | hello : I'm in the experimenting phase!! | 22:51 |
| twanny | cannot find the index.html of www.example.com !! | 22:51 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5025 /WebGUI/ (5 files in 5 dirs): | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Refactor out the copied code to resize images based on the max file | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: size from the Admin Settings and create a new method in | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Storage::Image. | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Build a test to verify that it works correctly. | 07:48 |
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| leopardus | I have a *very* strange prob | 19:27 |
| leopardus | I'm a newbie, it seems I did a mistake while doing a template and now I cannot get the home page | 19:30 |
| leopardus | I source re - installed everything and still cannot get the home page | 19:31 |
| leopardus | are there any info somewhere in the filesystem I have to delete? | 19:31 |
| leopardus | WebGUI was unable to instantiate your style template. | 19:32 |
| leopardus | ^^ this is the error! | 19:32 |
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| xootom | hi | 21:44 |
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| perlmonkey2 | JT isn't around is he? | 03:05 |
| perlmonkey2 | Did the new survey system ever get written? | 03:05 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Did the survey system ever get Ajax-ified? | 21:38 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Is anyone using the commerce system in a production environment? | 05:32 |
| perlmonkey2 | Would anyone be interested in a Paypal shopping cart Wobject? | 05:39 |
| perlmonkey2 | Must be the holidays, but I haven't seen anyone talking on this channel in days. | 05:40 |
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| +perlDreamer | anybody awake? I think I found a way to optimize a WebGUI::Group method. I'd like to bounce the idea off someone | 06:29 |
| +Radix-wrk | perlmonkey2: Not using it in a production environment myself, but worthy of note is that the commerce system is due for an upgrade soon - it mentions this on the WebGUI roadmap and also talks about the addition of a paypal payment method for it. | 06:40 |
| +Radix-wrk | perlDreamer: I'm awake, but I'm not the best one to bounce ideas off :) | 06:41 |
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| +perlDreamer | Radix-wrk: check out Group.pm, lines 130-133 | 06:49 |
| +perlDreamer | First, it checks to see if the group to be added is a child of the current group. | 06:49 |
| +perlDreamer | Then it does an expensive depth search for groups, which includes immediate children and all descendants. | 06:50 |
| +perlDreamer | Then it or's the two results to see if it should really add the group. | 06:50 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm thinking that if an "next if $isIn", then the expensive check could be skipped in many cases. | 06:51 |
| +Radix-wrk | Hey.. I just said I wasn't the best person to bounce ideas off ;) | 06:53 |
| +perlDreamer | I didn't believe you :) | 06:53 |
| +Radix-wrk | but it's true! :) | 06:53 |
| +perlDreamer | I can sense your hack-fu all the way over here in the States | 06:53 |
| +Radix-wrk | Oh I'm definitely a hack, but not in the way you want ;) | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | You have studied under the great Dutch masters. You must rise to your calling | 06:54 |
| +Radix-wrk | It sounds good to me, but I don't understand all the implications | 06:55 |
| +perlDreamer | Well, a few more tests should help cover that | 06:56 |
| +perlDreamer | I found it be analyizing the Devel::Cover output anyway | 06:57 |
| +perlDreamer | The new tests say the code is equivalent | 07:16 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5026 /WebGUI/ (lib/WebGUI/Group.pm t/Group.t): | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Up coverage of addGroups to 100%. | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Change tabs to spaces in group diagrams. | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Optimize the addGroups membership check so the expensive getGroupsIn | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: doesn't have to take place. | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Add a label to the foreach. | 07:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5027 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/t/Group.t: backport new Group test for addGroups | 07:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5028 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/Session/Var.pm: | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Previous conditional will always cover this case. If true, then | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: $self is returned. If false, then previous conditional is ignored, | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: and this line is also ignored. | 07:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Removing dead code. | 07:48 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I'm bidding on a WebGUI job. I'm actually subcontracting to a graphical designer who is doing the graphics, html and css. They want a GUI install with all the normal stuff a site might want. But then they want video podcasts hosted on blip.tv. I'll just write a cron job to check the blip.tv rss feed and add the podcasts to the site by inserting into the DB. NO biggie. But then they want to sale items in a shopping cart. I've never | 17:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | There already is an RSS aggregation workflow activity, which you might use. | 17:20 |
| +MrHairgrease | Or base your own on | 17:20 |
| perlmonkey2 | Ah yes, I forgot about that. So far, I won't be doing anything but configuring the system and porting the design to TT. | 17:21 |
| perlmonkey2 | In fact, I | 17:21 |
| perlmonkey2 | m hoping that their hoster doens't allow root access so I can get him to use plainblack, and then I won't even have to config the site :) | 17:21 |
| perlmonkey2 | hard to beat $20/month | 17:22 |
| perlmonkey2 | Does anyone know the status of the survey system update? I have two weeks off for the next 2-3 months and if it hasn't been done, I'd like to finish it. | 17:23 |
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| perlmonkey2 | maybe I can sub-sub-contract the job to plainblack for a $50 finders fee? I have fun things I'd rather do on my time off (like play with ajax and the survey system, or my webminer). | 17:27 |
| perlmonkey2 | anyone at plainblack want to give me a quick quote? | 17:27 |
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| +MrHairgrease | in getLineage excludeClasses works differently than includeOnlyClasses | 18:02 |
| +MrHairgrease | more specifically | 18:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | excludClasses takes in account extended classes | 18:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | ie. | 18:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | it does a like ClassName% | 18:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | while includeOnlyClasses only takes specific classes | 18:03 |
| +MrHairgrease | ie. it does a where className in (ClassName1, ClassName2) | 18:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | is this intended? | 18:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'm asking b/c the pod says they should do the same thing | 18:04 |
| +MrHairgrease | but opposite | 18:04 |
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| khenn_ | perlmonkey2: send the details to jamie@plainblack.com and we can quote the project for you | 19:21 |
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| perlmonkey2 | khenn: I submitted the details a few hours ago on the plainblack website. | 19:23 |
| @khenn | ah ok | 19:23 |
| @khenn | they'll go to the same person then | 19:23 |
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| perlDreamer | knowmad: Thanks for pointing out about the coverage report. You been thinking about writing some tests? | 19:41 |
| perlmonkey2 | Anyone got a sec to tell me how WebGUI would go about emailing out a newsletter? | 20:07 |
| @khenn | using subscriptions in a collaboration system | 20:08 |
| perlmonkey2 | khenn: No, this would be someone who would have a list of users and would want to use WebGUI to send out a newsletter to them. I was thinking creating the users in WebGUI without any rights and them add them to a collaboration system? | 20:11 |
| perlmonkey2 | Is the collaboration system a mailing list, like yahoo groups? | 20:15 |
| knowmad | not really, the collaboration system is a more like a forum; think phpBB or vBulletin | 20:22 |
| knowmad | however, it can be used to support a mailing list since it can send and receive emails | 20:22 |
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| perlmonkey2 | knowmad: groovy, thanks. | 20:45 |
| perlmonkey2 | khenn: Any chance on that bid coming back today? | 20:55 |
| @khenn | doesn't go to me | 20:55 |
| @khenn | you'll have to email Jamie and ask him | 20:55 |
| @khenn | jamie@plainblack.com | 20:56 |
| perlmonkey2 | Jamie doesn't know me, I'm just another anonymous guy submitting requests for quotes through the site. | 20:57 |
| @khenn | you had to leave some info for him to get in touch with you right? I have no idea what the request is. | 20:59 |
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| perlDreamer | my dev machine is down | 21:41 |
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| +MrHairgrease | what is cyber monday? | 22:17 |
| @rizen | the day after thanksgiving weekend | 22:18 |
| @rizen | in the US it is the biggest online shopping day of the year | 22:18 |
| perlDreamer | huge amounts of ecommerce | 22:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | aha | 22:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | i see | 22:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | did you read what i posted here this afternoon | 22:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | morning for you | 22:18 |
| +MrHairgrease | about getLineage | 22:19 |
| @rizen | yes and your mother smells funny, but i like it | 22:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | that funny | 22:19 |
| +MrHairgrease | so do i | 22:19 |
| @rizen | i'm ok with changing it to match excludeClasses | 22:19 |
| @rizen | so long as you write some tests for it | 22:20 |
| @rizen | to see what it might break | 22:20 |
| @rizen | that means a) write a test for the change and the write the change | 22:20 |
| @rizen | and b) search the existing webgui codebase for uses of includeOnlyClasses and test them to make sure they don't break | 22:20 |
| @rizen | and c) if it's possible to turn b into an automated test | 22:21 |
| @rizen | please do that | 22:21 |
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| +MrHairgrease | ok | 22:21 |
| +MrHairgrease | i'll see what i can do | 22:22 |
| perlDreamer | getLineage tests are in t/Asset/AssetLineage.t | 22:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | i have very little sparetime on my hands | 22:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | but you already know that by looking at the amount of commits i did lately... | 22:22 |
| +MrHairgrease | pd: thanks, i'll check it out. | 22:23 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Is "Jamie" here? | 23:41 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings. | 16:36 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5029 /tools/makerelease.pl: added coverage | 17:03 |
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| steveo_aa | I've reached the end of my rope. | 17:49 |
| steveo_aa | I am converting assets from one type to another through a cloning process. | 17:49 |
| steveo_aa | In essence, I'm cloning into a new namespace, but the namespace is only a slight modification of the Collaboration system. | 17:50 |
| steveo_aa | However, it is an important change set, and I need to be able to take a Post::Thread asset and convert it to MyPost::Thread. | 17:51 |
| @khenn | you have to copy them | 17:51 |
| @khenn | you can't just change the package name | 17:52 |
| steveo_aa | I acquire the appropriate parent asset and then process all the children, addChild to the new base parent. | 17:52 |
| @khenn | ok you are doing it right then =) | 17:52 |
| steveo_aa | Unfortunately, when I addChild to the new base parent, the asset is being partially created in the DB. There is a Post, an asset, and an assetData, but sometimes there is and sometimes there isn't an assetIndex. | 17:53 |
| steveo_aa | Without an assetIndex, the cloned asset is invisible. | 17:54 |
| nuba | steveo_aa: i believe if you want just to convert to your Collaboration clone, and dont care for the original, you could carefully change the namespace at the DB for these assets | 17:54 |
| steveo_aa | I've tried that and failed. | 17:54 |
| steveo_aa | Lineage and namespace is insufficient changes. | 17:55 |
| steveo_aa | So the clone purposefully names the new className on instantiation. | 17:55 |
| steveo_aa | And lineage is handled by addChild. | 17:55 |
| steveo_aa | Interestingly at the end of the process, no versionTag is available for rollback, even though a commit was successful. | 17:57 |
| steveo_aa | Between the time an addChild is called and the versionTag commit, I have examined the DB to see the new child assets and I can't find them. | 18:01 |
| steveo_aa | (it is a long process) | 18:02 |
| steveo_aa | So I'm wondering if assetIndex is created on commit rather than on addChild. | 18:03 |
| steveo_aa | Or could sheer volume be an issue here. | 18:08 |
| @rizen | it's created on commit | 18:08 |
| @rizen | assets are indexed when you commit them | 18:08 |
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| steveo_aa | There is no log error message for the failure of the version commit. I don't know what could be breaking it. | 18:09 |
| @rizen | it doesn't sound like you're committing anything | 18:09 |
| @rizen | weren't you just updating the database table? | 18:10 |
| steveo_aa | I'm using the WebGUI/sbin model to get a session and commit at the end. And some of the cloned items are receiving assetIndex entries. Just not all of them. | 18:11 |
| steveo_aa | I can review the news summary page and see them on the current version. | 18:11 |
| steveo_aa | This is an international site, so could there be character range issues? | 18:11 |
| steveo_aa | I'm not touching content, just copying it to a new asset. | 18:12 |
| steveo_aa | At some point I have to reset the dateSubmitted field to correct for the default NOW() behavior. | 18:13 |
| steveo_aa | And the creationDate in the asset table. | 18:14 |
| steveo_aa | But this all follows a completed addChild. | 18:15 |
| steveo_aa | my $newAsset = $parent->addChild( $props, $pageId, undef, { skipAutoCommitWorkflows => 1 } ); | 18:18 |
| steveo_aa | Could the skipAutoCommitWorkflows flag be an issue here? | 18:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5031 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): merging 7.4.16 bugfix | 18:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5032 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix: Multiple Instances of EMS displaying on View Purchase | 18:18 |
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| @rizen | when you say "copy" do you mean you're using the WebGUI copy mechanisms or that you're just using database calls? | 18:20 |
| steveo_aa | I am aquiring a full asset, populating the $props hashref with the values, and then addChild to the new parent. | 18:21 |
| @rizen | and if you're just converting an existing cs into your new thing, then why bother copying anything at all | 18:21 |
| steveo_aa | SPECS | 18:21 |
| @rizen | after each post that you copy | 18:21 |
| @rizen | you need to run | 18:21 |
| @rizen | $post->postProcess; | 18:21 |
| @rizen | or $thread->postProcess; | 18:22 |
| @rizen | this is something unique to posts | 18:22 |
| @rizen | and thread | 18:22 |
| @rizen | s | 18:22 |
| @rizen | they need that extra processing | 18:22 |
| @rizen | and doing that will also commit them | 18:22 |
| steveo_aa | So after "my $newAsset = $parent->addChild(...)" I should then do $newAsset->postProcess. | 18:23 |
| @rizen | yup | 18:23 |
| steveo_aa | Ok. I'll let you know if I have any further issues. | 18:24 |
| steveo_aa | Oh, since I do have to reset dateSubmitted and creationDate fields, should I do that after the postProcess or before? | 18:24 |
| @rizen | before | 18:26 |
| steveo_aa | Thanks. | 18:26 |
| @rizen | i don't know what the requirements of the project you're working on, but if you can upgrade to 7.4, then you won't need to do that | 18:26 |
| @rizen | cuz the dateSubmitted and dateUpdated fields don't exist anymore | 18:26 |
| steveo_aa | Hmm. This is an upgrade site. The codebase is 7.4 but it has 7.3 tables | 18:27 |
| steveo_aa | Which field is the pertinent record for posting date? creationDate? | 18:28 |
| @rizen | yes | 18:29 |
| @rizen | 7.4 codebase with 7.3 tables is very bad | 18:29 |
| steveo_aa | Not my call. :( | 18:29 |
| @rizen | there are several incompatible data structures | 18:29 |
| steveo_aa | I presume Mr Bell had that covered. | 18:29 |
| @rizen | i'm not talking about call, i'm talking about a crashed site | 18:29 |
| @rizen | what site is this? | 18:30 |
| @rizen | alumni? | 18:30 |
| @rizen | navman? | 18:30 |
| steveo_aa | first | 18:30 |
| steveo_aa | alumni | 18:30 |
| steveo_aa | dev site | 18:30 |
| @rizen | i'll have to have a chat with him | 18:30 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5033 /WebGUI/ (2 files in 2 dirs): merging 7.4.16 bugfix | 18:33 |
| steveo_aa | > risen: why both copying | 18:45 |
| steveo_aa | I actually tried a method of changing the lineage and className for the records in question, but that failed. | 18:45 |
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| steveo_aa | It would be interesting to me to find out how to move a post to a new parent class. | 18:46 |
| @rizen | there's a very easy way | 18:46 |
| @rizen | actually several | 18:46 |
| @rizen | using api, just cut and paste the threads | 18:47 |
| @rizen | or using hackery | 18:47 |
| @rizen | change the parent ids of all the threads to match the new cs | 18:47 |
| @rizen | then run rebuildLineage.pl | 18:47 |
| steveo_aa | Because this is a new parallel class space, the className would have to be adjusted too. | 18:48 |
| steveo_aa | I tried moving a child class from one parent to another by hand, attempting to conform to the lineage details of the destination, but that failed. | 18:49 |
| steveo_aa | I'll have to see what rebuildLineage.pl does differently. | 18:49 |
| steveo_aa | No wonder dev is running so slow. It is into swapspace bigtime. | 18:53 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5034 /wrebuild/wre/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fix: backup.exclude may not be copied | 20:33 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5035 /wrebuild/wre/ (sbin/backup.pl docs/changelog.txt): fix: backup creates false positives in wre monitor | 20:33 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5036 /wrebuild/wre/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fix: backup eats memory | 21:03 |
| @preaction | eats? more like gourges itself on | 21:04 |
| @rizen | hehe | 21:04 |
| @rizen | it's fixed now | 21:04 |
| @rizen | turns out it was just a configuration proble | 21:04 |
| @rizen | so i put some code in to make sure that youc an't configure it that way anymore | 21:04 |
| @preaction | word | 21:04 |
| @preaction | will just saying $newSession = undef; be okay to close a session I just created? or do i have to $newSession->var->end? | 21:16 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5037 /wrebuild/ (build.sh wre/docs/changelog.txt): replaced graphics magick with image magick | 21:48 |
| @rizen | you have do do end | 21:48 |
| @rizen | and then close | 21:48 |
| @rizen | $session->var->end; | 21:49 |
| @rizen | $session->close; | 21:49 |
| @preaction | k, hopefully that'll fix the memory gobbling i can now reproduce faithfully (though i don't know what specifically causes it yet) | 21:50 |
| @rizen | $session->var->end is just to end the user session | 21:51 |
| @rizen | it really has nothing to do with memory | 21:51 |
| @preaction | the session is only created to commit a version tag as a different userId | 21:51 |
| @rizen | $session->close however, disconnects from mysql and destroys variables, so that will have a lot to do with memory | 21:51 |
| @rizen | doesn't matter | 21:52 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5038 /wrebuild/wre/lib/WRE/Spectre.pm: import needed functions | 22:03 |
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| perlmonkey2 | Anyone have Jamie's email? I sent a request for a bid in yesterday and haven't heard back. But my imap Gmail account ate a few emails, so maybe it got lost. | 23:23 |
| @preaction | "ate"? it should be on the http://plainblack.com/contact_us | 23:39 |
| @preaction | info@plainblack.com would be appropriate | 23:40 |
| perlmonkey2 | preaction: yeah, I was using evolution as my email client and emails I received this morning started disappearing. But I think I still had pop going, so not sure what happened. | 23:41 |
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| -!- Radix_ changed the topic of #webgui to: [ WebGUI 7.4.15-stable | WRE 0.8.0 ] Before you ask, check the wiki: http://wiki.webgui.org | Pastebin: http://webgui.pastebin.com/ | WebGUI Community Contests, Win Money/Fame/Prizes: http://webgui.org/wcc | 00:39 | |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5039 /wrebuild/wre/ (docs/changelog.txt lib/WRE/File.pm): fix change owner function | 01:03 |
| perlDreamer | preaction: ping. I need an Event spec check, please | 01:04 |
| perlDreamer | re this bug: http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/event-end-time-missing | 01:04 |
| @rizen | the answer is yes it should | 01:05 |
| perlDreamer | I'll fix it then | 01:06 |
| @rizen | btw pd, how did your train meeting go at the town council or whatever that was? | 01:06 |
| perlDreamer | No train meetings yet. I've been too busy. | 01:06 |
| @rizen | oh, when you were here i thought you said it was already scheduled | 01:07 |
| perlDreamer | I was planning on doing it in November | 01:07 |
| perlDreamer | That is, the open planning commission meetings are monthly and are regularly scheduled. I have yet to be prepared enough to go to one. | 01:11 |
| perlDreamer | (note, this is where you call me a slacker) | 01:14 |
| @preaction | slacker! | 01:16 |
| perlDreamer | thanks! | 01:16 |
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| perlDreamer | We use &bull for date separators, what's a good one for time? — ? | 01:33 |
| @rizen | just a regular colon | 01:35 |
| @rizen | oh you mean two seperate times | 01:35 |
| perlDreamer | Tuesday, November 27 6:58 PM -- 7:58 PM | 01:35 |
| @rizen | i'd say just a - wold be fine | 01:35 |
| @rizen | but an emdash is fine too | 01:35 |
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| perlDreamer | Just how many times is 7.4.15 going to be released, anyway? :) | 01:36 |
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| perlDreamer | --bug | 02:41 |
| @rizenafk | perlDreamer++ | 02:41 |
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| perlDreamer | Do you want me to do this one, or should it be an RFE? http://www.webgui.org/bugs/tracker/asset-folder-template-loop | 02:42 |
| perlDreamer | I'm pretty sure we've been down this trail before, btw. | 02:42 |
| perlDreamer | but I can't find any previous mention in the logs | 02:44 |
| @rizen | it's an rfe | 02:45 |
| @rizen | but if you want to put it in | 02:45 |
| @rizen | i won't shoot you | 02:45 |
| perlDreamer | I'll add it to 7.5 as a compromise | 02:45 |
| perlDreamer | dinner time | 02:45 |
| perlDreamer | l8r | 02:45 |
| @rizen | later | 02:45 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5040 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixing Event time display | 02:48 |
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| +perlDreamer | Yay! | 06:26 |
| @preaction | yay? | 06:27 |
| +perlDreamer | remote controlled LED christmas light goodness | 06:27 |
| @preaction | YAY! | 06:27 |
| +perlDreamer | Also, the world's first Event Asset tests | 06:27 |
| +perlDreamer | 1.5 Yay | 06:27 |
| @preaction | is it bad that Asset->update() does a special-case for the "keywords" thing? | 06:27 |
| @preaction | i mean, what if someone already used the "keywords" label for a column name in a custom asset | 06:27 |
| +perlDreamer | hmmm | 06:28 |
| +perlDreamer | That's a good question | 06:28 |
| +perlDreamer | but we can't always be second guessing what others may do | 06:28 |
| @preaction | i was trying to figure out how WikiPage assets do their Keywords thing | 06:28 |
| @preaction | well, to be sure, but it just feels like too much magic | 06:28 |
| +perlDreamer | wG is full of magic | 06:29 |
| @preaction | one of the biggest hurdles :p | 06:29 |
| @preaction | i'm just going to document it at least | 06:29 |
| +perlDreamer | Good step. | 06:29 |
| +perlDreamer | How's the gallery? | 06:30 |
| @preaction | quite awesome, the code's basically done i'm alternating between writing API tests, trying to flesh out some sort of default template tests, and actually making the templates from steve's mockups | 06:31 |
| @preaction | a client emergency has pushed it back a week, but that's good (i can take an extra week to do some more tests) | 06:32 |
| @preaction | it is, by far, the cleanest, most well-designed code i've ever written | 06:32 |
| +perlDreamer | Awesome. I can't wait to see it. | 06:32 |
| +perlDreamer | I've just been plugging away in maintenance mode. | 06:33 |
| @preaction | indeed, i can't wait to see what people do with it | 06:33 |
| +perlDreamer | Tests, a few bugs | 06:33 |
| @preaction | i've been noticing | 06:33 |
| +perlDreamer | I'm thinking of asking JT for another smoke test, for 7.4 | 06:33 |
| +perlDreamer | especially since branches are now long term | 06:34 |
| @preaction | ah, of course, that's what i was going to do: i've got a FreeBSD 6.2 system with WebGUI on it that basically sits idle all day (something I could run weekly coverage reports on, since it would take at least two days on that slow of a system) | 06:34 |
| +perlDreamer | ooh! | 06:34 |
| +perlDreamer | yeah! | 06:34 |
| @preaction | i was going to ask JT for his script that does the testing | 06:35 |
| +perlDreamer | most of it is sbin/testCodebase.pl | 06:35 |
| @preaction | the testing only requires that mysql be running, correct? | 06:35 |
| +perlDreamer | So far :) | 06:35 |
| +perlDreamer | Oh, and apeiron would be happy if it was WRE based. | 06:35 |
| @preaction | it won't be, it's not entirely idle, it's my dev/experimentation box | 06:36 |
| @preaction | it's my "web server" | 06:36 |
| @apeiron | Why would I be pleased if it was WRE based? | 06:36 |
| @preaction | though theoretically there is another system over there, faster, more efficient. but it needs a hard drive (or some other form of hardware) | 06:36 |
| * apeiron arches a brow, curious. | 06:36 | |
| @preaction | because the spectre tests would work | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | because your spectre test requires the WRE | 06:37 |
| @apeiron | Ah, yay tests! | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | apeiron has not been reading my intermittent test summaries | 06:37 |
| @preaction | i sent him an e-mail last week when i first noticed the smoke tests message | 06:37 |
| @apeiron | Indeed, jumping in in the middle, and yeah, I have to get to that test fix. | 06:37 |
| +perlDreamer | we need something like smolder, a test aggregator so that many people could run the tests | 06:38 |
| @apeiron | hummm | 06:38 |
| @apeiron | Maybe BINGOS' CPANsmoke thing would be a good start? | 06:38 |
| +perlDreamer | I've heard of that, but don't know if it will handle non-distribution type tests | 06:39 |
| @apeiron | Wondering how difficult it would be to either adapt that, or the tinderbox software. | 06:43 |
| +perlDreamer | Do you have a link for tinderbox? | 06:44 |
| +perlDreamer | The first hit on google for tinderbox is another CMS | 06:44 |
| @apeiron | There's actually a couple of separate ones, to my knowledge. | 06:44 |
| @apeiron | There's http://www.mozilla.org/tinderbox.html and then a FreeBSD version (port, perhaps?) at, hm, sec. | 06:45 |
| @apeiron | http://tinderbox.marcuscom.com/ for the FreeBSD version. | 06:46 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5041 /WebGUI/t/supporting_collateral/ (tooTall.gif tooWide.gif): Adding previously forgotten testing collateral | 06:48 |
| +perlDreamer | so would we use one of their tinderbox servers, or host one of our own? | 06:49 |
| @apeiron | Would likely host our own. | 06:50 |
| @apeiron | I imagine you'd need to hack at either of those packages to make it work for WG. | 06:51 |
| @apeiron | But it's a start, and most of the important stuff -- i.e. the reporting infrastructure -- is there. | 06:51 |
| @apeiron | The rest would just be IPC, no? | 06:51 |
| +perlDreamer | yes | 06:54 |
| +perlDreamer | That's the thing I like about smolder. It's a full end to end solution with no hackery. | 06:55 |
| +perlDreamer | but the thing I don't like is the size. | 06:55 |
| +perlDreamer | to be that complete, it bundles a whole ton of perl modules | 06:55 |
| +perlDreamer | Kind of like a certain CMS that I know of :) | 06:56 |
| @apeiron | The things I've mentioned are readymade for the tasks for which they were designed, of course. | 06:56 |
| +perlDreamer | Hey, as long as we can say something like "aggregate ." and do the right thing with minimal hackery and maintenance, I'm cool with it | 06:57 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5042 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/t/Asset/Event.t: fix UTC dates for Event test | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5043 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/lib/WebGUI/ (Asset/File.pm Asset.pm Session/Url.pm): backport of state/status fixes from HEAD | 07:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5044 /WebGUI/ (3 files in 3 dirs): forward porting Event dateSpan display fix and Event.t test | 07:03 |
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| +perlDreamer | time to go to the board of woe | 07:15 |
| +perlDreamer | 'night, guys | 07:15 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5045 /WebGUI/ (4 files in 4 dirs): add menuTitle to the Folder templates | 07:18 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5046 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/t/Asset/Event.t: more Event/getTemplateVars tests | 08:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5047 /WebGUI/t/Asset/Event.t: forward porting another batch of Event getTemplateVar tests | 08:03 |
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| @preaction_ | CIA-45, help | 10:23 |
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| leopardus | which is the page loaded on http://www.example.com ?? | 11:14 |
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| leopardus | anyone with some good *tweaking* experience? | 14:33 |
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| SDuensin | Greetings | 16:11 |
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| leopardus | SDuensin, how d? | 16:33 |
| SDuensin | Eh. Working. Fun fun. | 16:34 |
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| knowmad | at the last WUC, one of the developers mentioned that it's possible to tell wG not to load some of the core modules that aren't needed (e.g., commerce). does anyone here know how to do that? | 17:27 |
| steveo_aam | In /data/wre/prereqs/apache/conf/httpd.modperl.conf, comment out this line: PerlRequire /data/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl | 17:41 |
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| perlmonkey2 | I'm really trying to get a client to use plainblack servers, and I've inserted a $150 setup charge if I have to use their hosting server to set up webgui on. Does that sound fair? Do WebGUI contractors talk business here, or should they go to #webgui-scabs? | 17:54 |
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| knowmad | steveo: thanks. so i comment out the whole preload? is the idea that wG will load only the modules on an as needed basis? | 18:00 |
| knowmad | we do our own hosting for clients and find it a challenge to charge a setup fee; i will sometimes use it as a gimme during negotiations so don't count on having that money coming in the door; of course, we have to make up for it elsewhere as their is some time investment involved in setting up a new site | 18:03 |
| knowmad | however, the WRE has made that time a *lot* shorter | 18:03 |
| knowmad | i can setup a webgui site far more quickly than a "standard" site on our other server | 18:04 |
| perlmonkey2 | knowmad: It is a small, small job, and I'm only taking it because a client with a larger job asked me to handle it. It is a custom php CMS that they want ported. But I'd have to have a lean on my house before I'd write php. So, I either move it to WebGUI, preferabley PlainBlack hosted, so I don't have to deal with the setup. Or I port to Catalyst and charge 3 times as much. | 18:06 |
| knowmad | i hear ya; we do php under duress as well. | 18:17 |
| knowmad | i've considered hosting with PB but we have all the servers in place so haven't had a need to as yet; $150 setup sounds very reasonable if you are having the client contract with PB directly for hosting | 18:18 |
| knowmad | our basic hosting fee for our clients (we don't do public hosting) is $25/mo which is higher than PB's so we make up the setup costs over time | 18:19 |
| knowmad | steveo: ping | 18:20 |
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| CIA-45 | WebGUI: colin * r5048 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/i18n/English/Asset_Folder.pm: grrrr. Mistyped an i18n table key | 18:48 |
| perlDreamer | SynQ: America is now a civilized country. We found some stroopwaffeln sold locally. | 19:01 |
| perlDreamer | It even comes in a decorative faux-Dutch white and blue tin. | 19:02 |
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| perlDreamer | Hail, rizen | 19:04 |
| @rizen | all hail perlDreamer | 19:05 |
| @rizen | for he is the supreme commander of the galaxy | 19:05 |
| perlDreamer | I bring tidings of great joy. | 19:05 |
| perlDreamer | You can buy stroopwaffeln in the states. | 19:05 |
| @rizen | oh yeah? | 19:05 |
| @rizen | whoa! | 19:05 |
| @rizen | where? | 19:05 |
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| perlDreamer | I'll ask Kathy. | 19:06 |
| perlDreamer | I came home yesterday and saw a Dutch style tin on the counter. | 19:06 |
| perlDreamer | Inside were cookies of maple-y delight | 19:06 |
| @rizen | speaking of sweet stuff | 19:06 |
| perlDreamer | Which I can't eat, or I'll have to do push-ups | 19:06 |
| @rizen | you let your sons lie about your t-day eating habbits | 19:06 |
| perlDreamer | Oh no, I beat them when I got home | 19:06 |
| @rizen | at checkers? | 19:07 |
| perlDreamer | With a Koosh bat | 19:07 |
| @rizen | you aren't the sort to beat a kid | 19:07 |
| @rizen | oh a koosh bat | 19:07 |
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| @rizen | so i thought things were going to slow down after the wu | 19:08 |
| @rizen | wuc | 19:08 |
| @rizen | wow was i wrong | 19:08 |
| perlDreamer | warp 8? | 19:08 |
| @rizen | for the next two months i have no less than 5 items on my calendar per day | 19:08 |
| @rizen | and that doesn't count all the crap that "just comes up" | 19:08 |
| perlDreamer | oh, by the way... | 19:09 |
| perlDreamer | :) | 19:09 |
| perlDreamer | more speaking engagements? More writing? | 19:09 |
| @rizen | working on some new books | 19:10 |
| @rizen | and sending out proposals for new speaking engagements | 19:10 |
| @rizen | working on a new hosting provisioning system | 19:10 |
| @rizen | which i hope to demonstrate and talk about at YAPC | 19:10 |
| perlDreamer | Did you see that joomla, drupal and sliverlight were hand picked for a new Google open source outreach program for high schoolers? | 19:11 |
| @rizen | designing the new commerce system | 19:11 |
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| @rizen | yeah | 19:11 |
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| perlDreamer | That's a bunch of work. And that's on top of the normal stuff. | 19:11 |
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| perlDreamer | I don't suppose Chris Dolan mentioned where to find ppidump, did he? | 20:09 |
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| CIA-45 | WebGUI: jt * r5052 /wrebuild/build.sh: fix a typo | 22:33 |
| @rizen | here's a topic: http://www.cracked.com/article_15699_9-most-badass-bible-verses.html | 22:52 |
| @rizen | discuss amongst yourselves | 22:52 |
| @preaction_ | Nothing about Lot, who promised his virgin daughters to a group of ruffians if they would just shut the h311 up? | 23:00 |
| @rizen | what's funny is, when i was younger i read the bible cover to cover at least three times, and i just sort of glossed over all the crazy shit | 23:02 |
| @preaction_ | if they're just parables, i imagine they'd make a lot more sense | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | I like the one about the guy who had to sacrifice his daughter because he made a promise to God. | 23:13 |
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| @preaction_ | would it be possible to use a different MPM in the mod_perl apache? | 03:07 |
| @preaction_ | the current prefork MPM doesn't do hardly any sharing between processes | 03:07 |
| @preaction_ | but a threaded model like worker would share the perl interpreter between the threads | 03:08 |
| @preaction_ | or perhaps load more things into memory before apache begins forking, in wre/sbin/startup.pl | 03:09 |
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| @rizen | preaction: we already load everything possible in preload.perl | 06:27 |
| @rizen | however, it may be possible to use a different MPM. i have been looking into the threaded MPM for a while now | 06:27 |
| @rizen | i told colin about my threaded mpm plan 3 months ago | 06:28 |
| @rizen | the goal is to explore that for wre 0.9 | 06:28 |
| @rizen | because if we can make it work, it would use 1/10th the memory that the current prefork version uses | 06:28 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5059 /releases/WebGUI_7.4.16-stable: Release 7.4.16-stable | 08:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5060 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): preparing for 7.4.17 dev | 08:03 |
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| SDuensin | Hello! | 16:03 |
| perlmonkey2 | hello | 16:04 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5062 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (docs/changelog/7.x.x.txt lib/WebGUI/Asset/RSSFromParent.pm): fix: double width characters encoded incorrectly in Collaboration RSS feed | 18:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5063 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 18:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: Merged revisions 5062 via svnmerge from | 18:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: https://svn.webgui.org/plainblack/branch/WebGUI_7.4 | 18:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 18:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: r5062 | graham | 2007-11-29 09:45:32 -0600 (Thu, 29 Nov 2007) | 1 line | 18:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fix: double width characters encoded incorrectly in Collaboration RSS feed | 18:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: ........ | 18:03 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: graham * r5064 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (5 files in 3 dirs): fix: update method in various assets changes incoming parameters | 19:03 |
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| perlmonkey2 | does spectre have to run as root? | 20:57 |
| @preaction | it shouldn't, no | 20:58 |
| @rizen | there's no reason to run spectre as root unless you want to run it on a port lower than 1024 | 21:00 |
| perlmonkey2 | so specter only needs to run as a user with high enough permissions to connect to the mysql db and to the website, and to write to the log? | 21:03 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5065 /wrebuild/wre/ (4 files in 4 dirs): fixing workflow monitoring problems | 21:03 |
| @rizen | just to write to the log | 21:04 |
| @rizen | it gets it's mysql privs from the config file | 21:04 |
| @rizen | and you can't stop it from connecting to the web site | 21:04 |
| @rizen | or rather, no user level means anything for connecting to the site | 21:05 |
| perlmonkey2 | rizen: Please tell me the magic words to get the guy I'm subcontracting to, to use your site for hosting? | 21:05 |
| @rizen | generally speaking spectre should run as the same user as modperl | 21:05 |
| perlmonkey2 | He normally uses http://www.mediatemple.net which I'm pretty sure WebGUI isn't going to work with. | 21:05 |
| @rizen | which is usually "webgui" | 21:05 |
| @rizen | well if he's subcontracting for you, why don't you just tell him he must | 21:06 |
| @rizen | you're the boss | 21:06 |
| @rizen | or are you subcrontacting for him? | 21:06 |
| perlmonkey2 | No, I'm subcontracting for him. | 21:06 |
| perlmonkey2 | yeah :( | 21:06 |
| @rizen | in that case you need to discover why he would rather use mediatemple than us | 21:07 |
| @rizen | is it cost | 21:07 |
| @rizen | is it because he's used to media temple | 21:07 |
| @rizen | is it something else | 21:07 |
| @rizen | the argument is different depending upon what his reasons ar | 21:07 |
| @rizen | are | 21:07 |
| perlmonkey2 | It is because he is used to media temple | 21:09 |
| perlmonkey2 | They give a $3/month break if you pay for a full year, otherwise it is the same cost. | 21:09 |
| perlmonkey2 | I'm on the point of just telling him, I am a Perl dev, I am not nearly poor enough to be forced into PHP, I like WebGUI, if he can find a better Perl CMS then show it to me, so if he wants to use me, it is WebGUI hosted at PlainBlack. Course that is a bit aggro and might scare him off. | 21:10 |
| @rizen | which package at mt is he getting? | 21:11 |
| @rizen | do you know? | 21:11 |
| @rizen | and is this for custom dev? | 21:11 |
| @rizen | cuz we don't allow custom code on our virtual servers | 21:11 |
| @rizen | only on our dedicated servers | 21:12 |
| @rizen | but some of the magic words are: free upgrades, 24/7 monitoring, daily backups, support from the people who wrote the software | 21:13 |
| perlmonkey2 | hah, exactly. | 21:18 |
| perlmonkey2 | We would need custom code in the future, but I like to do things in small phases. Getting the customer something funcational ASAP, then adding bells and whistles as needed. | 21:19 |
| perlmonkey2 | rizen: You genius. We'd have to have a dedicated virtual server for WebGUI to run. So Media Temple $50/month, but with root access and full control over what is installed on the OS. | 21:25 |
| @rizen | hardly | 21:27 |
| @rizen | you need at least the $100 version | 21:27 |
| perlmonkey2 | oh, because 256MB ram isn't enough? | 21:29 |
| @preaction | no no no | 21:29 |
| @rizen | yeah | 21:29 |
| @rizen | you'd need at least 512mb ram | 21:29 |
| @preaction | which would probably require optimization of memory usage settings (because swapping is bad) | 21:30 |
| @rizen | other than that though, the media temple version isn't a bad deal | 21:30 |
| @rizen | but it doesn't come with any support or installation | 21:30 |
| @rizen | i assume you'd handle the installation | 21:30 |
| perlmonkey2 | another reason I want to go with PB | 21:30 |
| @rizen | but then if he wants webgui support it will be another $1k per year | 21:30 |
| perlmonkey2 | I can install WG no problem, but it takes me an hour to do it. | 21:30 |
| perlmonkey2 | Yeah, I'm telling him we need PB. | 21:31 |
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| perlmonkey2 | The selling point at media temple is the storage. $20/month gives you 100GB of storage. I'm not sure how usable that is, because I'm going to guess that is some sort of map-reduce arch. | 21:49 |
| perlmonkey2 | But even the $50 virtual server gives 20GB. | 21:50 |
| @rizen | is he planning on serving big media files or something? | 21:50 |
| @rizen | most webgui sites don't use more than 500MB of storage | 21:50 |
| perlmonkey2 | yes, lots of MP3's. This is a site for a Church's choir direcotr. | 21:50 |
| perlmonkey2 | also lots of podcasts for sermons. | 21:50 |
| @rizen | ah | 21:51 |
| @rizen | well there i can't help you | 21:52 |
| @rizen | we can increase the storage on our hosting | 21:52 |
| @rizen | but it's $15/mo per 500MB | 21:52 |
| @rizen | but part of the reason we charge so much is that we do both on and off server daily backups | 21:53 |
| @rizen | so the 15 doesn't just cover the space | 21:53 |
| @rizen | but the backups too | 21:53 |
| knowmad | Are my pixels dying or have the online poll results gone wacko? http://www.plainblack.com/wg/contribute | 21:53 |
| @rizen | it's a bug | 21:53 |
| @rizen | the new WRE switches back to image magick | 21:54 |
| @rizen | and something went wonky as a result | 21:54 |
| knowmad | oh, really | 21:54 |
| knowmad | so you're giving up on Graphics Magick also | 21:54 |
| knowmad | i tried it shortly on some of my projects but kept gravitating back to IM | 21:54 |
| @rizen | we only switched to it because of platform compatibility problems | 21:55 |
| @rizen | but we've finally overcome those thanks to apeiron | 21:56 |
| @rizen | so now we're going back to a more flexible and powerful api | 21:56 |
| @rizen | graphics magick feels old and rickety | 21:56 |
| knowmad | cool. ++apeiron | 21:56 |
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| perlDreamer | Has rizen been here today? | 22:39 |
| @preaction | yes, you just missed him | 22:39 |
| perlDreamer | GHOP is looking for more work, they have more students than projects | 22:39 |
| perlDreamer | I think we should apply | 22:39 |
| perlDreamer | I even have a task in mind | 22:39 |
| @preaction | Thingy? | 22:40 |
| perlDreamer | No, it's for high school students | 22:40 |
| @khenn | I thought Thingy was done | 22:40 |
| @preaction | no, it's being done though | 22:40 |
| perlDreamer | I'd like to have someone experiment with different testing strategies for wG | 22:40 |
| perlDreamer | Test::Harness 3.0 | 22:40 |
| perlDreamer | Test::Aggregator | 22:40 |
| perlDreamer | Test::Harness::Parallel | 22:40 |
| perlDreamer | find out what works with wG, what doesn't and how much time we can shave off our testing times | 22:41 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2007/11/help_wanted_give_us_work.html | 22:41 |
| @preaction | i still don't see why the time it takes to run tests is relevant at all | 22:42 |
| perlDreamer | Virtue #3 | 22:43 |
| perlDreamer | and the fact that I run tests on a P3 500 MHz box most of the time | 22:43 |
| perlDreamer | at WUC 2K6, some people also mentioned that they don't run tests before every commit because they take too long | 22:44 |
| perlDreamer | it's one of the reasons we set up the smoke tests | 22:44 |
| perlDreamer | as a backstop | 22:44 |
| perlDreamer | (which, incidentally, I needed the other day) | 22:44 |
| perlDreamer | If y'all can think of a more exciting project, I say we should do it | 22:45 |
| perlDreamer | But I'm willing to mentor this one and help get wG involved in these outreach kind of programs | 22:45 |
| @preaction | perhaps a Test::Builder to leverage WWW::Mechanize to test webgui from the frontend? | 22:46 |
| @preaction | there must be an asset that somebody wants, like an Auction / eBay asset | 22:47 |
| @preaction | an asset with an interface to google widgets? a rewrite of the WebServices Client? (which is in desperate need of one) | 22:48 |
| @preaction | a rewrite of the Dashboard? or at least some enhancements and things to make it more awesomeness | 23:01 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5066 /wrebuild/wre/ (var/setupfiles/wre.conf docs/changelog.txt): config file adjustments | 23:03 |
| perlDreamer | For the Test::Builder, how 'bout Test::WWW::Mechanize? | 23:08 |
| @preaction | iirc Test::WWW::Mechanize is just for testing WWW::Mechanize, at least, that's what it sounded like when i read it | 23:11 |
| @preaction | rewrite WebGUI::Test::Maker to act more like Test::Deep (<3 Test::Deep) | 23:11 |
| perlDreamer | No, I think Test::WWW::Mech is a Test::More like frontend to Mech | 23:12 |
| @preaction | perlbot cpan for Test::WWW::Mechanize | 23:13 |
| perlbot | Documentation for 'Test::WWW::Mechanize' can be found here: http://xrl.us/bbzs4 | 23:13 |
| @preaction | ah, you are right | 23:14 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: jt * r5067 /wrebuild/wre/var/upgrades/ (upgrade_0.8.1-0.8.2.pl upgrade.skeleton): | 23:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: fixed skeleton | 23:18 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: prepared for 0.8.2 dev cycle | 23:18 |
| @preaction | ha! Leverage Test::WWW::Mechanize to (somehow) test WebGUI's frontend WITHOUT REQUIRING apache | 23:19 |
| @preaction | or, enhance WebGUI::Test::Maker::HTML with Test::Deep-like [ bag() superhashof() re()] test objects | 23:19 |
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| perlDreamer | I think we need to go through Apache. It's the only way to really duplicate the user experience. | 23:30 |
| perlDreamer | At least until we get smart enough to use something like GtkMozEmbed, or Selenium | 23:30 |
| perlDreamer | slightly different subject | 23:32 |
| perlDreamer | Is this forum thread really a template bug | 23:32 |
| perlDreamer | http://www.webgui.org/web_design_templates_and_themes/qa-cs-formatting/1#idrZpBcKVsWKX4eb3asvoogQ | 23:32 |
| @preaction | yes, but that's the wrong way to fix it. it should probably be a <dl> | 23:36 |
| @preaction | and the content/bodyText of a Post asset can contain any HTML, so it can't be inside of a <p> tag (since <p> cant contain any non-floated block elements) | 23:37 |
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| perlDreamer | preaction: if you'll post proper fixing instructions to the post, I'll patch the template | 00:05 |
| @preaction | the Q&A template is where the question is the title and the answer is the post, right? | 00:06 |
| perlDreamer | PBtmpl0000000000000081.tmpl | 00:07 |
| perlDreamer | yes, almost. The answer is the content | 00:08 |
| perlDreamer | I <3 templateFiler.pl | 00:08 |
| perlDreamer | Haarg: Are you home? | 00:15 |
| @Haarg | yup | 00:15 |
| perlDreamer | re this rev: https://svn.webgui.org/svnweb/plainblack/revision/?rev=5055 | 00:16 |
| perlDreamer | Should the returned status be 0 instead of 1? | 00:16 |
| perlDreamer | Mail::Send, line 447 | 00:16 |
| @Haarg | possibly | 00:16 |
| @Haarg | i was having it act as if there was an empty group | 00:17 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: chrisn * r5068 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Backport the changes to Spectre::Workflow::getJsonStatus to 7.4. | 00:18 |
| perlDreamer | The POD makes it sound like the mail was sent if $status = 1, so that would be consistent with an empty group. | 00:18 |
| @Haarg | the send queued mail messages workflow would requeue if you return 0 | 00:19 |
| @Haarg | and it can never succeed if it has an invalid group id | 00:19 |
| perlDreamer | both true | 00:20 |
| perlDreamer | So long as the group was not deleted before the submission of an email and its sending, the group should always be there anyway | 00:21 |
| @Haarg | yeah. i think from the perspective of the workflow, returning 0 is the right thing | 00:22 |
| perlDreamer | I agree completely. | 00:23 |
| @Haarg | if you weren't working from the queue, but just sending a message, it would probably be best to get an error back. but there isn't really room for that as it just has a boolean return | 00:23 |
| perlDreamer | Yes | 00:23 |
| @Haarg | an error will show in the logs though | 00:23 |
| perlDreamer | How about a log message? | 00:23 |
| @Haarg | calling WebGUI::Group->new will spit out an error in this case | 00:24 |
| perlDreamer | Cool | 00:24 |
| perlDreamer | Thanks for being patient and explaining all that out. | 00:26 |
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| cap10morgan_ | Is there a macro to spit out "http" or "https" based on whether or not the page is being accessed securely? | 01:47 |
| @preaction | doesn't look it, but perhaps there's some Env you could use? | 01:52 |
| nuba | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ssl/ssl_compat.html#variables | 01:54 |
| perlDreamer | cap10morgan_: I _think_ ^Page() will do the magical https autodetection for you, but it also spits out the hostname | 02:00 |
| cap10morgan_ | ok, i'll look into it. thanks guys | 02:00 |
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| leopardus | how do I log rotate? | 09:34 |
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| Klaus_ | Hello! | 13:47 |
| Klaus_ | Have a question: is there an easy way to unarchive all posts in a CS? | 13:48 |
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| SDuensin | Friday! | 16:23 |
| knowmad | TGIF! | 16:29 |
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| +MrHairgrease | You guys should come and live in the Netherlands. Over here it's almost weekend already. | 16:53 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5069 /WebGUI/t/Storage/Image.t: Storage/Image.t tests failing due to being run as root user. Add SKIP to enable test for non-users only | 18:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: colin * r5070 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/t/Storage/Image.t: backport Storage/Image.t test fix for running as root | 18:48 |
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| CIA-18 | WebGUI: doug * r5071 /WebGUI/lib/WebGUI/ (Help/Asset_Post.pm i18n/English/Asset_Post.pm Asset/Post.pm): added url.raw for Post assets to get a URL without the #id stuff at the end | 21:48 |
| CIA-18 | WebGUI: doug * r5072 /branch/WebGUI_7.4/lib/WebGUI/ (Help/Asset_Post.pm i18n/English/Asset_Post.pm Asset/Post.pm): backport 5071 | 21:48 |
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| wgGuest73 | Here is the simplest question of all. | 23:29 |
| wgGuest73 | what should i do, if i want to change the port of the webgui site. | 23:30 |
| wgGuest73 | i know i have to change it in xxxxxx.modproxy file. | 23:30 |
| @preaction | in webgui.conf and spectre.conf too, but why are you doing so? | 23:32 |
| wgGuest73 | i want to host in different port other than 80 | 23:33 |
| @preaction | so i'm assuming you know what to do with Apache, you just need to know how WebGUI uses it | 23:34 |
| wgGuest73 | yes.. | 23:35 |
| @preaction | since it sounds like you're doing the WRE, all you'd need to change is the webServerPort in the webgui config files | 23:36 |
| @preaction | might want to make sure that spectre can still connect though, and that spectre.conf still points to the right port (the modperl instance, not the modproxy instance) | 23:36 |
| wgGuest73 | oh i see it webgui conf file. | 23:38 |
| wgGuest73 | hmmm. | 23:38 |
| wgGuest73 | why WebGui is using builtin apache and mysql server?? | 23:39 |
| wgGuest73 | it could use system's server too.. | 23:39 |
| @preaction | search the wiki for "source install". you downloaded the WRE, the WebGUI Runtime Environment. it's a preconfigured / optimized set of the requirements for WebGUI | 23:41 |
| @preaction | i mean, do you want to fulfill all of WebGUI's requirements manually? you're free to do so | 23:41 |
| wgGuest73 | hmmm.. that make sense.. | 23:43 |
| @preaction | of course, if you're going to do that, if you know how to make packages for your distro, you might consider making a WebGUI package for your distro. we could add it to webgui.org | 23:48 |
| ckotil | configuring webgui from source is a lengthy process. its rewarding tho | 23:52 |
| @preaction | the source install instructions still seem... wrong... it could use a rewrite | 23:55 |
| ckotil | :) | 23:56 |
| wgGuest73 | hmmm.. i ok with WRE for now :D | 23:56 |
| ckotil | have a good weekend. | 23:56 |
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